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Tom Sykes -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/18/2020 12:24:09 PM)
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom
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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom
I have been completely torn on the WRs in this draft, but after going somewhat in depth my rankings are
#1 Jeudy
#2 Lamb
#3 Ruggs
#4 Mims
# 5 Jefferson, but #6 for the Vikings due to his being a slot receiver making him and Thielen not coexist too well.
#6 Reagor #5 for the Vikings
#7 Aiyuk
#8 Pittman
#9 Claypool
#10 Shenault
I'm really hoping we get one of the top 7 and add Tyler Johnson Later. I don't think we can get one of those at pick 58 and pick 25 is too early for Jefferson, Reagor, and Aiyuk IMO. So a trade back or trade up may need to happen.
nice list, kg
I am torn on how I would rank players...
I know the idea that not taking Jefferson because he is used as a slot guy, but he was super productive and at 6-3. good hands and routes, I can't see him disappointing as an outside guy...actually seems more versatile than Mims...
Mims concerns me because of the potential route running problem Baylor WR's seem to have...not sure if it is fair to lump him in with them, but I have seen him ranked all over the place...Lindy's has him as the 19th best WR...which I don't really see either, but that is certainly a question
The more discussion there has been about not taking a slot guy because we want more 2 TE sets and so forth is interesting...I was thinking a quick, slot guy that can house a 3-yard slant would compliment Thielen and Sharpe...but maybe that isn't what we are looking for...or maybe that is all smoke...
If we are looking at a Run heavy offense, then Edwards really might make great sense, as he is a good blocker, but is he Treadwell II? Less of a problem if we take him in the 2nd than first, but I want a speedy and dynamic player if we take a WR high, not sure if he is that...
I love Aiyuk, a little cool on Reagor...I don't buy Shenault as a pro...he was gimmicky, but always came through for the Buffs
Pittman and Claypool would be OK in rd 2
If we take WR in rd 1, I am leaning more to Jefferson over Mims (assuming the top 3 are gone), a small trade down from 25 would be great!
Thanks Chris. I have been working on it for a month now. Pro Football Focus among other sources finally convinced me that Mims was the guy. His athletic profile, combined with his great production over the last three years and his domination of the Senior Bowl convinced me. Mims seems very similar to Julio Jones.
As for Jefferson I agree with you about not worrying much about the slot thing as I only moved him down one spot for the Vikings due to it. I disagree about taking him over Mims as Mims was very productive for three years instead of one and he is so athletically superior to Jefferson.
I'd encourage you to heat up on Reagor. He is ridiculously athletic and like Aiyuk a huge play ready to happen at any time. He routinely gets great separation, makes impossible catches particularly over the heads of his defender by using his 42 inch vertical. I also wouldn't be down on Shenault as he was gimmicky as you say, but only because he was so talented he could be their short yardage back and their wildcat QB. He also played very well as a WR. He does have a concerning injury history and they say he didn't "interview well". His talent is first round his question marks make him 2nd round.
IMO Jefferson is the next best pro prospect after Jeudy, Lamb, and Ruggs. No other player (besides Jeudy) comes close from a polished WR skill standpoint, certainly not Mims. What's more, I think Jefferson shows a lot of toughness and competitiveness that are somewhat underrated because of his polished skill set. Like Thielen, he will be able to play inside or outside.
I also think that Jefferson, based on his production in college, shows an upward trend – he just started to scratch the surface last year which bodes well for his further development at the pro level. IMO Mims – given all his great college production and starter experience – should be further along from a skill standpoint. He has a lot of great qualities, but I question his ceiling beyond being a tall athletic WR who was a mismatch for college DBs.
Don't get me wrong, I like Mims in the second round if he's there at #58, don't think he will be. It's been a looong time since we had big skilled WR with speed.
I just think if a want a solid 6+ dude who was ready to play yesterday, you go Jefferson.
Also IMO, if you decide to go explosive playmaker top of the second rd / maybe late first, you go Aiyuk.
It’s taken me a long time to get on board with Aiyuk. I have a strong anti-ASU bias (I’m a UA grad) so you know I am not pulling for the guy to start with. IMO he barely qualifies from a pure WR skill standpoint as a middle second round pick. However, I think his explosiveness, toughness, good hands in traffic and YAC ability push him up into the very early second /late first rd. He’s dynamic and makes me think of Deebo Samuel (Zierlein says Robert Woods but I don’t see it) physically abusing defenses.
Another litmus test for me … of all the WRs after Jeudy, Lamb and Ruggs – Aiyuk is the one WR I least want the Packers to draft.
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