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			  | Brad H ->  RE: NFL Draft 2020  (4/23/2020 3:54:23 PM) |  
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 1st Rounders since 2009
 Harvin
 Ponder
 Kalil
 Harrison
 Floyd
 Rhodes
 Patterson
 Barr
 Teddy
 Waynes
 Treadwell
 Hughes
 Bradbury
 
 4 of 13 still on the team, and that's with recently selected Hughes and Bradbury which is expected.  Mostly only a career ending injury or being a mammoth bust would exclude them.
 
 
 
 Harvin got us draft picks.
 Ponder was a giant reach where he was picked. and busted out
 Kalil was very good his rookie year then injuries and loss of confidence ruined him
 Harrison is gold
 Floyd would have been very good if not for a botched surgery
 Rhodes was good for years then fell off a cliff
 Patterson was very gifted athletically but just couldn't figure out how to run a route right.  Even Bill Belichick couldn't get more out of him.
 Barr is better than people here give him credit for.
 Teddy would be our QB now if not for the knee injury
 Waynes would probably still be here if not for salary cap issues
 Treadwell was just a bad pick, but very few WRs that draft turned out good...
 Hughes is about to get tested.
 Bradbury is about to get tested more.
 
 
 And if you look at the rest of the draft we haven't done all that bad.
 
 
 
 A different take-
 Harvin ultimately a risk I would’ve taken as well - Uber talented/ Elevated us.
 Ponder was a need/ reach brutal selection. A lot of people usually get canned over picks like that.
 Kalil was good until he received coaching that didn’t expect more out of him. 🙄 Dork, reaffirmed my dislike for USC players.
 Rhodes ultimately a good pick. Who could foresee this cliff he dropped off relatively young.
 Patterson although I loved aspects of his game was another waste of heavy capital/ picks for a gadget player.
 Barr at #9 is a good pick, needs more consistency, not used properly in scheme IMO
 Teddy (I’m biased) trading back up for him was a very good move. Who could foresee that injury ughhh. Love the kid
 Waynes was ok, underachieved IMO, but not a bad pick at #11. Had the tools, not the killer instinct.
 Treadwell bad, real bad, never showed anything.
 Hughes got raves during his first training camp. Didn’t need CB in the 1st round, bad pick We’ll see/injury
 Bradbury looked liked Elflein as a center early, came on a little (Trending bust) gotta get more stout. Why you don’t draft C in 1st.
 
 All said we’ve been praised league wide for having one of the most talented rosters in the NFL the last 5-6 years inspite of many 1st round hickups.
 
 This is THE MOST IMPORTANT DRAFT in quite a few years for us.
 
 We can either hit a home run where we need it- OL, CB, WR, DL and be right back up there, or not, and fall back into the Mike Tice/ Leslie Frazier years....
 
 SKOL Vikes this week!
 
 Another opinion:
 Harvin --  Heart was never in the game.  Only did it for the money.
 Ponder -- Brutal pick
 Kalil -- A classic gravy-train pick.  Everybody thought he was gonna be his brother.  Think Tom Arnold, one of the biggest gravy-trainers of all time
 Rhodes -- was a star for a few years and then the game took its toll
 Patterson -- gifted athlete who always gave 100%.  One of the great return guys the Vikings have ever had.  Not a great receiver, but had heart
 Barr -- a guy the Vikings have always played out of position
 Teddy -- S-A-W-F-T.  Dude broke his leg walking on the practice field
 Waynes -- DOUBLE S-A-W-F-T  One of the worst picks the Vikings have made given their needs at the time.  Didn't like him the minute they drafted him
 Hughes -- Stud
 Bradbury -- massive upgrade over Elflein, who was disappointing from day one.  Showed some promise as a rookie.
 
 I don't know Brad.
 
 Elflain actually out performed Bradbury when comparing rookie seasons.
 
 Waynes certainly was underwhelming but he was durable and good in run support. Not nearly as good of a coverage cb considering he was the 11th overall pick though.
 
 Hughes i think will rebound this year. but far from a stud.
 
 Waynes has been a bum since day one.  I remember when he was finally named the opening-day starter in 2016 and he got schooled by Tajae Sharpe.  That's right, Tajae, not Shannon.
 
 
 
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 Haha
 
 Vikings win 25-16
 
 Waynes first start he has 10 tackles 1 tfl. While giving up four catches to Sharpe no TD’s
 
 Overall Sharpe had a whopping 7-76 yds.... mostly in garbage time going against Zimmers infamous prevent defense.  OK Brad....[&:]
 
 Just an FYI, a lot of tackles for a corner means the guy the offense was throwing at wasn't covering anyone.
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