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kevinemmer -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 12:25:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

I have this feeling that the Vikings are only going to make one first round selection this year. A trade back from either of their two picks is highly possible/probable since there are a whole bunch of guys that are all about the same from 20 to 40, value wise. Hell, Id be happy with trading both first rounders for early second rounds and more ammo. I think you will be able to still get Ruiz at 33 or 34, and probably one of Gladney, Fulton or Terrell at 35/36. Wouldn't surprise me at all.


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Agreed Dana.
Esp if No Blue Chippers fall to 20-ish range.
(Kinlaw, Wirfs, Wills, Brown [8D])

Would love to see us pick up 2 Gophers in TJ and 'Toine Jr.

Still high on Mims, would hate to see Puke get him.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 12:43:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Paul Allen seems to strongly believe the Vikings will trade up with their first pick.



There you go again Bruce! [&:]

If they acquire Trent Williams earlier perhaps they don’t want to pay two 1st round picks?

Just parroting Paul Allen 😉


I can't imagine the Vikings giving up one of their firsts for Williams.




Che Oesterreich -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 12:46:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Chad Graff- Athletic 6.0 Mock

22. Austin Jackson OT USC
25. Yetur Gross-Matos Edge. PSU

ICKY ICKY ICKY


The run of picks from 10-21 are painful to think about all happening as we count down to our pick too...

10. Atlanta Falcons – CJ Henderson, CB, Florida
The first trade in this scenario has the aggressive Falcons adding help on defense. The Browns are willing to move back, and Atlanta addresses an important need with Henderson.

11. New York Jets – Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville
With no receivers off the board so far, the Jets will be tempted to go in that direction. But Becton has the talent to develop into the stabilizing force New York has been seeking on the offensive line.

12. Las Vegas Raiders – CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
The Raiders are missing a playmaker on the outside and Lamb has the catch-point skills and football IQ that will appeal to both Jon Gruden and Mike Mayock.

13. Miami Dolphins – Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
After passing on quarterback at No. 5 overall, the Dolphins move from No. 18 up to No. 13 in a trade with the 49ers, nabbing Herbert before another team (New England? Jacksonville?) makes a move to go get him. Don’t rule out Jordan Love here, either.

14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama
Wills has no business falling this far (my top-ranked tackle), but it is a plausible scenario, something Tampa would love to see. This would provide immediate competition at right tackle and more help for Tom Brady.

15. Denver Broncos – Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
The Broncos have made calls about a possible trade-up so it wouldn’t be a surprise if they move up from this spot. But in this scenario, they don’t need to, adding Jeudy’s route-running to complement Courtland Sutton.

16. Cleveland Browns – Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise State
The Browns might have an interesting decision to make at No. 10 – draft one of the top tackles or trade back while picking up another Day 2 selection. They move back in this scenario and land a toolsy tackle they like.

17. Dallas Cowboys – K’Lavon Chaisson, Edge, LSU
To be honest, I will be surprised if Chaisson makes it this far, but the Cowboys won’t be disappointed if it happens. If Chaisson is gone, look for cornerback (A.J. Terrell or Trevon Diggs) to be the pick.

18. San Francisco 49ers – Henry Ruggs, WR, Alabama
The Niners move back five spots in this scenario and are still able to land a player they likely would have considered at No. 13. Ruggs has special athleticism, adding another wrinkle to Kyle Shanahan’s offense.

19. Las Vegas Raiders – A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson
The Raiders added the playmaking receiver at No. 12 and now they get the cornerback. A 6-1 athlete with 4.42 speed, Terrell is well-liked by several teams.

20. Jacksonville Jaguars – Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama
If the Jaguars don’t draft a cornerback (CJ Henderson) at No. 9, a player like Diggs wouldn’t be a bad Plan B later in the first round.

21. Philadelphia Eagles – Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
Can Jefferson line up outside as an “X” receiver? Maybe. But he offers the route-running, ball skills and toughness that fit any offensive scheme.

22. Minnesota Vikings – Austin Jackson, OT, USC
I think there is a decent chance the Vikings finish Thursday night with much-needed youth at offensive tackle, and Jackson is the youngest player in the draft.




kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 12:46:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

I have this feeling that the Vikings are only going to make one first round selection this year. A trade back from either of their two picks is highly possible/probable since there are a whole bunch of guys that are all about the same from 20 to 40, value wise. Hell, Id be happy with trading both first rounders for early second rounds and more ammo. I think you will be able to still get Ruiz at 33 or 34, and probably one of Gladney, Fulton or Terrell at 35/36. Wouldn't surprise me at all.


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Agreed Dana.
Esp if No Blue Chippers fall to 20-ish range.
(Kinlaw, Wirfs, Wills, Brown [8D])

Would love to see us pick up 2 Gophers in TJ and 'Toine Jr.

Still high on Mims, would hate to see Puke get him.

Me too.




kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 12:49:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Paul Allen seems to strongly believe the Vikings will trade up with their first pick.



There you go again Bruce! [&:]

If they acquire Trent Williams earlier perhaps they don’t want to pay two 1st round picks?

Just parroting Paul Allen 😉


I can't imagine the Vikings giving up one of their firsts for Williams.

I don't believe Kurt was talking about the Vikings using a first for Williams. He was talking about trading one pick out of the first round to save money, but I don't know if that would work.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 1:01:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Paul Allen seems to strongly believe the Vikings will trade up with their first pick.



There you go again Bruce! [&:]

If they acquire Trent Williams earlier perhaps they don’t want to pay two 1st round picks?

Just parroting Paul Allen 😉


I can't imagine the Vikings giving up one of their firsts for Williams.



I don't think they are saying they will trade a first for Williams.

Just that they wont use both. Like trade down for more picks




Guest -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 1:10:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Paul Allen seems to strongly believe the Vikings will trade up with their first pick.



There you go again Bruce! [&:]

If they acquire Trent Williams earlier perhaps they don’t want to pay two 1st round picks?

Just parroting Paul Allen 😉


I can't imagine the Vikings giving up one of their firsts for Williams.



I don't think they are saying they will trade a first for Williams.

Just that they wont use both. Like trade down for more picks


Yes that’s my point, trade back, or get Trent Williams, and move UP to get a player we really covet in the mid teens.




David Levine -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 1:14:19 PM)

Jeremy Fowler@JFowlerESPN
Hours before draft, there's been much talk among GMs about potential late-first-round moves, with Minnesota as a key cog in the discussions. This is mostly groundwork, since draft boards need to shake out. One GM said he expects Jordan Love to create movement if he's there in 20s




Tom Sykes -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 1:39:24 PM)

So ... is there absolutely no chance we have CB Diggs on our board?

I know a media report said no way, he was off our board but what do they really know.

I personally do not have a problem with him supporting his brother through the pre-trade process. I would think less of him if he didn't.

Did Stefon have a problem with Zimmer or his run-first mantra / with the actual offensive scheme / how he was utilized? Do we really know? I don't think so.

Did Stefon leave on bad terms which in itself, I agree, would leave a sour taste in brother Trevon's mouth? Not sure, Stefon has said nothing but glowing things about his teammates and more importantly, our players about him. And ofcourse, the regime has handled professional.

Seems to me everybody walked away happy.

It it possible the team and Trevon have had pre-draft talks and feel good about one another?

BECAUSE ... Trevon is a solid prospect, right in that second group behind Okudah and Henderson.




Guest -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 1:52:46 PM)

Someone floating that Trent Williams will pull a 1st rounder in exchange?

The Redskins are probably floating that one everywhere right now.

I run from that trade if indeed that’s where they’re at.




lyle chabot -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 1:53:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kwheats

Sean Borman
@SeanBormanNFL
Paul Allen on KFAN said the #Vikings could be trading for Washington LT Trent Williams today with the compensation being a Day-3 pick.

Team can then focus on CB and WR in 1st round.

“Don’t be surprised if there’s more action for the purple & gold today than a Rambo movie.”
[&o]

works for me




Guest -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 1:57:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lyle chabot

quote:

ORIGINAL: kwheats

Sean Borman
@SeanBormanNFL
Paul Allen on KFAN said the #Vikings could be trading for Washington LT Trent Williams today with the compensation being a Day-3 pick.

Team can then focus on CB and WR in 1st round.

“Don’t be surprised if there’s more action for the purple & gold today than a Rambo movie.”
[&o]

works for me


I’ll never say another bad word about our goof play by play guy if this happens...[:D]




lyle chabot -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 2:10:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: lyle chabot

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ORIGINAL: kwheats

Sean Borman
@SeanBormanNFL
Paul Allen on KFAN said the #Vikings could be trading for Washington LT Trent Williams today with the compensation being a Day-3 pick.

Team can then focus on CB and WR in 1st round.

“Don’t be surprised if there’s more action for the purple & gold today than a Rambo movie.”
[&o]

works for me


I’ll never say another bad word about our goof play by play guy if this happens...[:D]

Best case outcome for me! That would really help our draft! He would still need to pass a physical when he comes to Minnesota.




lyle chabot -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 2:15:29 PM)

If the Vikes trade a third round pick for Williams, and we get a CB and WR in the first round that would be a great start to the draft!




Trekgeekscott -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 2:22:46 PM)

Trent Williams would be worth much more than a 3rd round pick so if that is what takes to get him, that would be a steal.

If they pull that off I could see them moving up in the first round for a guy they really like, ... such as Okudah




Guest -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 2:33:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lyle chabot

If the Vikes trade a third round pick for Williams, and we get a CB and WR in the first round that would be a great start to the draft!


I’d still give the Two, but if it’s a three that would be a big win to start the draft I agree.




Don T in CO -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 2:33:34 PM)

Consensus Big Board Rankings (NFL Draft Countdown, ESPN Legwold, PFF, SI, Daniel Jeremiah, and Walter Football)
Rank First Last Position College Height Weight 40-Time
1.4 Chase Young DE Ohio St. 6-4 ⅞ 264 4.57
3.6 Joe Burrow QB L.S.U. 6-3 ½ 221 4.79
3.7 Jeff Okudah CB Ohio St. 6-1 ⅛ 205 4.48
4.9 Isaiah Simmons OLB Clemson 6-3 ⅝ 238 4.39
5.1 Tua Tagovailoa QB Alabama 6-0 217 4.64
6.4 Derrick Brown DT Auburn 6-4 ⅝ 326 5.16
8.6 Jerry Jeudy WR Alabama 6-1 193 4.45
9.0 Jedrick Wills, Jr. OT Alabama 6-4 ¼ 312 5.05
10.6 CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma 6-1 ⅝ 198 4.50
11.3 Tristan Wirfs OT Iowa 6-4 ⅞ 320 4.85
12.1 Andrew Thomas OT Georgia 6-5 ⅛ 315 5.22
13.3 Javon Kinlaw DT South Carolina 6-5 ⅛ 324 5.00
14.9 Mekhi Becton OT Louisville 6-7 ⅜ 364 5.10
15.1 Henry Ruggs III WR Alabama 5-11 188 4.27
15.6 CJ Henderson CB Florida 6-0 ¾ 204 4.39
20.7 Xavier McKinney S Alabama 6-0 ⅜ 201 4.63
20.9 Patrick Queen OLB L.S.U. 6-0 ¼ 229 4.50
21.1 Kenneth Murray ILB Oklahoma 6-2 ½ 241 4.52
20.7 Justin Herbert QB Oregon 6-6 ¼ 236 4.68
23.3 A.J. Epenesa DE Iowa 6-5 ⅛ 275 5.04
23.4 K'Lavon Chaisson OLB L.S.U. 6-3 254 4.68
24.1 D’Andre Swift RB Georgia 5-8 ¼ 212 4.48
24.3 Justin Jefferson WR L.S.U. 6-1 ¼ 202 4.43
27.9 Austin Jackson OT USC 6-4 ⅞ 322 5.07
28.6 Yetur Gross-Matos DE Penn St. 6-5 266 4.62
28.6 Tee Higgins WR Clemson 6-3 5/8 216 DNR
29.1 Kristian Fulton CB LSU 6-0 200 DNR
32.3 A.J. Terrell CB Clemson 6-1 ⅛ 195 4.42
32.7 Grant Delpit S L.S.U. 6-2 ½ 213 4.50
33.7 Laviska Shenault WR Colorado 6-2 220 4.58
34.0 Trevon Diggs CB Alabama 6-1 ⅜ 205 4.54
35.9 Jaylon Johnson CB Utah 5-11 7/8 193 4.50
36.0 Josh Jones OT Houston 6-7 310 DNR
36.3 Jordan Love QB Utah St. 6-3 ¾ 224 4.74
39.3 Cesar Ruiz OG Michigan 6-2 ¾ 307 5.08
39.6 Jeff Gladney CB TCU 5-10 1/2 191 4.48
Other Notables
42.9 Antoine Winfield, Jr. S Minnesota
58.9 Jalen Hurts QB Oklahoma
62.0 Jake Fromm QB Georgia




TJSweens -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 2:33:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

Trent Williams would be worth much more than a 3rd round pick so if that is what takes to get him, that would be a steal.

If they pull that off I could see them moving up in the first round for a guy they really like, ... such as Okudah

A steal? I don't think so. The man has an injury history, a big contract and will be 32 when the season starts.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 2:35:16 PM)

No mention of Reiff in that deal.

Cut (post June 1?), trade, or move to G.... after a pay cut!




Guest -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 2:36:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

quote:

ORIGINAL: lyle chabot

If the Vikes trade a third round pick for Williams, and we get a CB and WR in the first round that would be a great start to the draft!


I’d still give the Two, but if it’s a three that would be a big win to start the draft I agree.


I’d certainly investigate that if there is truly someone they really covet like Ruggs perhaps....(My opinion only) [;)]




Tom Sykes -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 2:59:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

Trent Williams would be worth much more than a 3rd round pick so if that is what takes to get him, that would be a steal.

If they pull that off I could see them moving up in the first round for a guy they really like, ... such as Okudah

A steal? I don't think so. The man has an injury history, a big contract and will be 32 when the season starts.

I agree it's not a steal – up front – I would call it a good deal because he's a beast when healthy, and you can invest in another position in the first rd.

It Williams plays a significant role for you in 2020 its an absolute steal.




Phil Riewer -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 3:00:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Don T in CO

Consensus Big Board Rankings (NFL Draft Countdown, ESPN Legwold, PFF, SI, Daniel Jeremiah, and Walter Football)
Rank First Last Position College Height Weight 40-Time
1.4 Chase Young DE Ohio St. 6-4 ⅞ 264 4.57
3.6 Joe Burrow QB L.S.U. 6-3 ½ 221 4.79
3.7 Jeff Okudah CB Ohio St. 6-1 ⅛ 205 4.48
4.9 Isaiah Simmons OLB Clemson 6-3 ⅝ 238 4.39
5.1 Tua Tagovailoa QB Alabama 6-0 217 4.64
6.4 Derrick Brown DT Auburn 6-4 ⅝ 326 5.16
8.6 Jerry Jeudy WR Alabama 6-1 193 4.45
9.0 Jedrick Wills, Jr. OT Alabama 6-4 ¼ 312 5.05
10.6 CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma 6-1 ⅝ 198 4.50
11.3 Tristan Wirfs OT Iowa 6-4 ⅞ 320 4.85
12.1 Andrew Thomas OT Georgia 6-5 ⅛ 315 5.22
13.3 Javon Kinlaw DT South Carolina 6-5 ⅛ 324 5.00
14.9 Mekhi Becton OT Louisville 6-7 ⅜ 364 5.10
15.1 Henry Ruggs III WR Alabama 5-11 188 4.27
15.6 CJ Henderson CB Florida 6-0 ¾ 204 4.39
20.7 Xavier McKinney S Alabama 6-0 ⅜ 201 4.63
20.9 Patrick Queen OLB L.S.U. 6-0 ¼ 229 4.50
21.1 Kenneth Murray ILB Oklahoma 6-2 ½ 241 4.52
20.7 Justin Herbert QB Oregon 6-6 ¼ 236 4.68
23.3 A.J. Epenesa DE Iowa 6-5 ⅛ 275 5.04
23.4 K'Lavon Chaisson OLB L.S.U. 6-3 254 4.68
24.1 D’Andre Swift RB Georgia 5-8 ¼ 212 4.48
24.3 Justin Jefferson WR L.S.U. 6-1 ¼ 202 4.43
27.9 Austin Jackson OT USC 6-4 ⅞ 322 5.07
28.6 Yetur Gross-Matos DE Penn St. 6-5 266 4.62
28.6 Tee Higgins WR Clemson 6-3 5/8 216 DNR
29.1 Kristian Fulton CB LSU 6-0 200 DNR
32.3 A.J. Terrell CB Clemson 6-1 ⅛ 195 4.42
32.7 Grant Delpit S L.S.U. 6-2 ½ 213 4.50
33.7 Laviska Shenault WR Colorado 6-2 220 4.58
34.0 Trevon Diggs CB Alabama 6-1 ⅜ 205 4.54
35.9 Jaylon Johnson CB Utah 5-11 7/8 193 4.50
36.0 Josh Jones OT Houston 6-7 310 DNR
36.3 Jordan Love QB Utah St. 6-3 ¾ 224 4.74
39.3 Cesar Ruiz OG Michigan 6-2 ¾ 307 5.08
39.6 Jeff Gladney CB TCU 5-10 1/2 191 4.48
Other Notables
42.9 Antoine Winfield, Jr. S Minnesota
58.9 Jalen Hurts QB Oklahoma
62.0 Jake Fromm QB Georgia


Don T in CO....long time no talk.....welcome back.




Phil Riewer -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 3:03:16 PM)

I would be happy with Winfield and a QB (some say Hurts and Fromm may drop to 4th and 5th round):

42.9 Antoine Winfield, Jr. S Minnesota
58.9 Jalen Hurts QB Oklahoma
62.0 Jake Fromm QB Georgia




kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 3:04:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

So ... is there absolutely no chance we have CB Diggs on our board?

I know a media report said no way, he was off our board but what do they really know.

I personally do not have a problem with him supporting his brother through the pre-trade process. I would think less of him if he didn't.

Did Stefon have a problem with Zimmer or his run-first mantra / with the actual offensive scheme / how he was utilized? Do we really know? I don't think so.

Did Stefon leave on bad terms which in itself, I agree, would leave a sour taste in brother Trevon's mouth? Not sure, Stefon has said nothing but glowing things about his teammates and more importantly, our players about him. And ofcourse, the regime has handled professional.

Seems to me everybody walked away happy.

It it possible the team and Trevon have had pre-draft talks and feel good about one another?

BECAUSE ... Trevon is a solid prospect, right in that second group behind Okudah and Henderson.

He's not talented enough for us to bother with the distraction. Next man up.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/23/2020 3:08:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

Trent Williams would be worth much more than a 3rd round pick so if that is what takes to get him, that would be a steal.

If they pull that off I could see them moving up in the first round for a guy they really like, ... such as Okudah

A steal? I don't think so. The man has an injury history, a big contract and will be 32 when the season starts.

I agree it's not a steal – up front – I would call it a good deal because he's a beast when healthy, and you can invest in another position in the first rd.

It Williams plays a significant role for you in 2020 its an absolute steal.

Williams would be far better than any 3rd rounder we would choose.




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