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Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 8:43:13 AM)

Niners had a solid day. Drafted two JUCO guys. Both are studs.

The rich get richer.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 8:46:45 AM)

Justin Jefferson said he can play equally well in slot and on the outside. "I've been playing outside all my life until last year.''

This comment by Jeff Gladney will make #Vikings coach Mike Zimmer feel good. He said of his TCU tenure, "I knew the playbook like the back of my hand.''

CB draftee Jeff Gladney said he's the "perfect fit" for the #Vikings and wants to make Mike Zimmer "proud'' of drafting him.

CB Jeff Gladney thought he was going to get drafted by the #Vikings at No. 22 or 25. When the Vikings traded the No. 25 pick, he said he got a little bit "antsy" but still thought he might be drafted by them.

#Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said Jeff Gladney is similar to some CBs he has had but didn't want to offer specific comparisons. When I asked him if Terence Newman is a good comparison, he at least said, "Maybe.''

Mike Zimmer on Packers drafting Jordan Love “I think Rodgers should retire.”

#Vikings No. 31 pick Jeff Gladney will get an estimated four-year, $10.99 million salary, including a $5.55 million signing bonus, and to have a 2020 cap number of $1.99 million. He will have a fifth-year contract option.

(Chris Tomasson on Twitter)

Regarding that last quote, I am wondering how much trading back for Gladney impacted the salary cap for the Vikings.



Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 8:46:48 AM)

Overall, I give the Vikings a "B" on day one. I like Jefferson, but I would have liked to see them move up to get Lamb if they were going to go WR.

After watching film, I like Aiyuk more than Jefferson. The kid looks like an absolute game-changer. Having said that, LSU is a pretty good place to get a WR in recent years.

Gladney fills a need.

I'm okay with day one. Now, get some offensive linemen or I'm going to be pissed!



Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 8:49:42 AM)

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We need OL tomorrow. Not a safety.

Depends on future plans for Reiff and Ant.


Reiff is still with the team. Ant hasn't signed.

So, as of now.



Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 8:50:14 AM)

Packers draft was a bit puzzling. Maybe it's just me, but I see Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback for a few more years. I like Love, but Rodgers is one of the smartest and most accurate quarterbacks in the game. I thought they had a ton of needs they didn't address. Quarterback is not their problem, and hasn't been for over 25 years.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 8:51:49 AM)

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From CBS Sports:

No. 26 overall: The Packers select QB Jordan Love, Utah State

Green Bay selects the heir apparent to Aaron Rodgers. I can not imagine Rodgers is thrilled. He was likely looking for some help with additional pass catchers. Love makes frustrating decisions but there are comparisons to Patrick Mahomes. He is capable of throwing from odd arm angles and while on the run. It worked out well the last time Green Bay took a quarterback late in Round 1. 

Pete Prisco gives the pick a 'D': "Terrible move by the Green Bay Packers. Aaron Rodgers told me last summer he wants to play until he's 40. They needed a receiver. They needed defensive help. Sitting behind Rodgers will do Love well, but not going to do the Packers well. You're on the cusp of getting to a Super Bowl, get Rodgers some help."



Did I hear that Love is the first skill player they have drafted in the 1st since.......... Rodgers?! [:-]



Bruce Johnson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 8:53:12 AM)

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Gladney lacks ideal size/bulk for the position, but he excels because of his blend of quickness and feistiness. He plays outside and inside. He is at his best in off coverage, where he uses a quick, fluid pedal before efficiently planting and driving on balls thrown in front of him. He doesn't waste steps. He is always in good position, but will get walled off at times by bigger wideouts. When he does press, he usually sits at 2 yards and carries his hands low before trying to catch wideouts and re-route them. His overall ball awareness is very good. He does a good job coming to balance before tackling runners and he's also an effective blitzer. Gladney needs to get a little stronger, but I love his scheme versatility and toughness.

(Daniel Jeremiah)


Who is that from (getting stronger)? He benches 400 lbs, squats 600 lbs (which is more impressive than many DT)?


LOL! [&:]

I was wondering if he might be "more ready to go" based on him already being 24. Hopefully, because we might need that in this off-season impacted by the virus. It sounds like he is a smart player who had good coaching.



TJSweens -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 8:54:00 AM)

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Packers draft was a bit puzzling. Maybe it's just me, but I see Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback for a few more years. I like Love, but Rodgers is one of the smartest and most accurate quarterbacks in the game. I thought they had a ton of needs they didn't address. Quarterback is not their problem, and hasn't been for over 25 years.

The Packers may have decided that they are closer to moving on from the diva than people realize.



Mr. Ed -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 8:54:28 AM)

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From CBS Sports:

No. 26 overall: The Packers select QB Jordan Love, Utah State

Green Bay selects the heir apparent to Aaron Rodgers. I can not imagine Rodgers is thrilled. He was likely looking for some help with additional pass catchers. Love makes frustrating decisions but there are comparisons to Patrick Mahomes. He is capable of throwing from odd arm angles and while on the run. It worked out well the last time Green Bay took a quarterback late in Round 1. 

Pete Prisco gives the pick a 'D': "Terrible move by the Green Bay Packers. Aaron Rodgers told me last summer he wants to play until he's 40. They needed a receiver. They needed defensive help. Sitting behind Rodgers will do Love well, but not going to do the Packers well. You're on the cusp of getting to a Super Bowl, get Rodgers some help."



Did I hear that Love is the first skill player they have drafted in the 1st since.......... Rodgers?! [:-]


Yep, I read that as well.



Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 8:55:37 AM)

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Packers draft was a bit puzzling. Maybe it's just me, but I see Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback for a few more years. I like Love, but Rodgers is one of the smartest and most accurate quarterbacks in the game. I thought they had a ton of needs they didn't address. Quarterback is not their problem, and hasn't been for over 25 years.

The Packers may have decided that they are closer to moving on from the diva than people realize.

Apparently so. That, or he is going to have a huge chip on his shoulder in 2020 and play his ass off.

Can he get out of his contract and ask for a trade?

Rodgers to the Patriots?



Bruce Johnson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:01:17 AM)

Gladney might be the most physical corner in the draft. Here's a video.

https://twitter.com/ArifHasanNFL/status/1253671849080258561?s=09



kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:02:31 AM)

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what the points board say

I'm interested to know this as well

But not interested enough to do the work



rick got beat out of 20 points of value....




That was the JJ chart right? I haven't been able to find the new one....


With the niners without of a 3rd rounder - I'm still very happy with the trade. I think we got our guy at 31.

The one I saw had us losing by 30 points.


Just because a board says so, it doesn’t make it a bad trade. It’s very situational. If you only want to move down x spots and still be able to get your man, maybe those teams below you aren’t motivated to trade. Or don’t have the picks to trade. So take whatever you can get.

I'm just giving the number. It worked out beautifully.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:02:33 AM)

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what the points board say

I'm interested to know this as well

But not interested enough to do the work



rick got beat out of 20 points of value....

The extra picks and a player at 31 that he may have taken at 25 beats 20 points on a spreadsheet.



Read here those extra picks were a 4th and the league is ironing out the other one... maybe a 5th or 6th.... [:D]



TJSweens -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:03:59 AM)

OK, I found the 2020 draft pick value chart on the cbs draftsite:

Pick # 25 = 201.4

Picks #31 + #117 + #176 = 173.66 + 20.06 + 6.18 = 199.9

Are we all happy now or do some people want to keep grinding that Spielman came up 1.5 points short?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/nfl-draft-2020-pick-trade-value-chart-creating-a-blueprint-for-draft-moves-by-using-past-trades/



Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:09:04 AM)

My biggest issue with Jefferson is that he doesn't seem to be a "stretch-the-field" sort of guy. We need a burner on the outside, otherwise teams are going to pack it in and make things difficult.

I liked when one of the analysts compared him to Keenan Allen. Love Keenen Allen. One of the best-kept secrets in the NFL. Maybe the best route-runner in the NFL.



Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:10:30 AM)

Here's an idea. How about we take a run at Antonio Brown?



TJSweens -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:12:23 AM)

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Here's an idea. How about we take a run at Antonio Brown?

F***er's too fast. We'd never catch him.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:13:10 AM)

From a Packer fan on Twitter:

Worst part of round 1 was Jefferson ending up in Minnesota. [&:]



Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:15:31 AM)

Read Gladney has a 80 inch wing span, so he can challenge taller receivers.

Quick twitch. He might literally be 5 times quicker than Rhodes was last year.



Mr. Ed -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:15:51 AM)

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My biggest issue with Jefferson is that he doesn't seem to be a "stretch-the-field" sort of guy.


I'm sure they have some in-house guys they keep buried on the practice squad. [&o]

But what does it matter when they are planning to run the ball, run the ball, run the ball again.

Probably a better idea than hoping Cousins is having a good day.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:16:51 AM)

Jefferson now has valuable slot experience.

For where we picked, I liked both the picks.



TJSweens -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:18:43 AM)

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My biggest issue with Jefferson is that he doesn't seem to be a "stretch-the-field" sort of guy.


I'm sure they have some in-house guys they keep buried on the practice squad. [&o]

But what does it matter when they are planning to run the ball, run the ball, run the ball again.

Probably a better idea than hoping Cousins is having a good day.

Jefferson wasn't deployed in that role as a senior. He has reasonably good speed and is a good route runner. He looks to me to be a guy who can get separation down field.



beo -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:21:11 AM)

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My biggest issue with Jefferson is that he doesn't seem to be a "stretch-the-field" sort of guy. We need a burner on the outside, otherwise teams are going to pack it in and make things difficult.

I liked when one of the analysts compared him to Keenan Allen. Love Keenen Allen. One of the best-kept secrets in the NFL. Maybe the best route-runner in the NFL.


Lot of draft yet... they could still get a burner WR.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:24:37 AM)

On those Burrow highlights showing the tight windows, I saw Jefferson catching it in those tight windows in traffic. Doesn't make him All-Pro, just saying.



Phil Riewer -> RE: NFL Draft 2020 (4/24/2020 9:29:26 AM)

I think Jefferson looks like a smooth route runner with very good speed 4.43. If I remember right Shades ran a 4.45.

The thing I like most about Jefferson is that he might be the best route runner in the draft and has great ball skills (some mentioned Cris Carter skills). Now I still suggest we grab a burner/KR (Hamler) and/or Tyler Johnson later in the draft.

You have Shades,Jefferson,Johnson/Hamler, Sharpe, Bisi.....you can mix and match and very dangerous.



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