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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Elf and Dozier as our starting G's leaves a lot to be desired.

Spielman simply doesn't get it. I want to remain optimistic but see little chance our IOL holding up against the better dlines in the league.

We will continue to beat weak below 500 teams and lose to the above 500 teams. rinse and repeat.

Would you be more inspired if Cleveland moves up to LG and Oli Udoh moves up to RG? That could happen. I don't know. There's a chance.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Minnesota Vikings Cornerbacks by Age

Kris Boyd - 23
Mike Hughes - 23
Holton Hill - 23
Jeff Gladney - 23
Cameron Dantzler - 21

(Luke Inman on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

Agreed. he seems to have his guys and keeps trotting them out there matter how bad they play.

Not sure what the love affair this team has with Elflain but the guy has been a complete liability the last 2 seasons. If there was no one worthy of replacing him with Spielman should have drafted 15 G's[:D] or at least moved some money around and picked up a servicable FA G.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Check out Ezra Cleveland's combine grade:

Size Rating: 52/100
Speed Score: 97/100
Agility Score: 95/100
Quickness Score: 87/100
Strength Score: 86/100

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Ezra&l=Cleveland&i=30057

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

Agreed. he seems to have his guys and keeps trotting them out there matter how bad they play.

Not sure what the love affair this team has with Elflain but the guy has been a complete liability the last 2 seasons. If there was no one worthy of replacing him with Spielman should have drafted 15 G's[:D] or at least moved some money around and picked up a servicable FA G.

Zimmer does not call the shots with regards to the OL. "Hey Kubiak, Dennison WTF! Get Elflein in there, or else!" Preposterous.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

Agreed. he seems to have his guys and keeps trotting them out there matter how bad they play.

Not sure what the love affair this team has with Elflain but the guy has been a complete liability the last 2 seasons. If there was no one worthy of replacing him with Spielman should have drafted 15 G's[:D] or at least moved some money around and picked up a servicable FA G.

Zimmer does not call the shots with regards to the OL. "Hey Kubiak, Dennison WTF! Get Elflein in there, or else!" Preposterous.

Elflain has started all 3 seasons under 3 different OC's. And about to start his fourth season under yet another OC.

Who is the common denominator here einstein?

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

Agreed. he seems to have his guys and keeps trotting them out there matter how bad they play.

Not sure what the love affair this team has with Elflain but the guy has been a complete liability the last 2 seasons. If there was no one worthy of replacing him with Spielman should have drafted 15 G's[:D] or at least moved some money around and picked up a servicable FA G.

Zimmer does not call the shots with regards to the OL. "Hey Kubiak, Dennison WTF! Get Elflein in there, or else!" Preposterous.

Elflain has started all 3 seasons under 3 different OC's. And about to start his fourth season under yet another OC.

Who is the common denominator here einstein?

So you're saying Zimmer is dumping OCs because they can't get Elflein to perform. It just keeps getting better.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Elf and Dozier are career backups, plain and simple. What happened to Samia? Did he get his 15 minutes of fame?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

Agreed. he seems to have his guys and keeps trotting them out there matter how bad they play.

Not sure what the love affair this team has with Elflain but the guy has been a complete liability the last 2 seasons. If there was no one worthy of replacing him with Spielman should have drafted 15 G's[:D] or at least moved some money around and picked up a servicable FA G.

Zimmer does not call the shots with regards to the OL. "Hey Kubiak, Dennison WTF! Get Elflein in there, or else!" Preposterous.

Elflain has started all 3 seasons under 3 different OC's. And about to start his fourth season under yet another OC.

Who is the common denominator here einstein?

So you're saying Zimmer is dumping OCs because they can't get Elflein to perform. It just keeps getting better.

I'm saying Zim is the HC and is calling the shots. 4 OC's and Elflain is starting for all of them.

The only other explanation is orders from Spielman. Or, probably the most plausible one is that Spielman simply hasn't drafted/signed anyone better than Elflain. Which is scary.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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Elf and Dozier are career backups, plain and simple. What happened to Samia? Did he get his 15 minutes of fame?

Camp reports haven't had many kind words for Samia.

What about Udoh? Is he up to snuff physically after contracting the Covid?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

Agreed. he seems to have his guys and keeps trotting them out there matter how bad they play.

Not sure what the love affair this team has with Elflain but the guy has been a complete liability the last 2 seasons. If there was no one worthy of replacing him with Spielman should have drafted 15 G's[:D] or at least moved some money around and picked up a servicable FA G.

Zimmer does not call the shots with regards to the OL. "Hey Kubiak, Dennison WTF! Get Elflein in there, or else!" Preposterous.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Elf and Dozier are career backups, plain and simple. What happened to Samia? Did he get his 15 minutes of fame?

Camp reports haven't had many kind words for Samia.

What about Udoh? Is he up to snuff physically after contracting the Covid?

Did he actually contract the COVID? I think that list was both for those who contracted, and those who MAY have had contact with someone with COVID. And they were not allowed to say which was which.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

Agreed. he seems to have his guys and keeps trotting them out there matter how bad they play.

Not sure what the love affair this team has with Elflain but the guy has been a complete liability the last 2 seasons. If there was no one worthy of replacing him with Spielman should have drafted 15 G's[:D] or at least moved some money around and picked up a servicable FA G.

Zimmer does not call the shots with regards to the OL. "Hey Kubiak, Dennison WTF! Get Elflein in there, or else!" Preposterous.

Elflain has started all 3 seasons under 3 different OC's. And about to start his fourth season under yet another OC.

Who is the common denominator here einstein?

So you're saying Zimmer is dumping OCs because they can't get Elflein to perform. It just keeps getting better.

I'm saying Zim is the HC and is calling the shots. 4 OC's and Elflain is starting for all of them.

The only other explanation is orders from Spielman. Or, probably the most plausible one is that Spielman simply hasn't drafted/signed anyone better than Elflain. Which is scary.

Every HC we have ever had gets blamed for keeping low performing incumbent players over promising youngsters (although in the case of Elflein who exactly looks promising? Nobody.) Football coaches are creatures of habit and low or average performing continuity is always the lesser evil over youthful unreliability.

Elflein getting plugged in has nothing to do with Zimmer or Spielman. Nothing. It would be an absolute insult to both Kubiak and or Dennison to be directed in that way.

More than likely, it comes down to every new OC thinking their system and god-given coaching ability will unlock the potential of an Elflein.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

Agreed. he seems to have his guys and keeps trotting them out there matter how bad they play.

Not sure what the love affair this team has with Elflain but the guy has been a complete liability the last 2 seasons. If there was no one worthy of replacing him with Spielman should have drafted 15 G's[:D] or at least moved some money around and picked up a servicable FA G.

Zimmer does not call the shots with regards to the OL. "Hey Kubiak, Dennison WTF! Get Elflein in there, or else!" Preposterous.

I can’t think of a single player on the entire team that ever cracked the starting lineup for a reason other than injury.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

Agreed. he seems to have his guys and keeps trotting them out there matter how bad they play.

Not sure what the love affair this team has with Elflain but the guy has been a complete liability the last 2 seasons. If there was no one worthy of replacing him with Spielman should have drafted 15 G's[:D] or at least moved some money around and picked up a servicable FA G.

Zimmer does not call the shots with regards to the OL. "Hey Kubiak, Dennison WTF! Get Elflein in there, or else!" Preposterous.

I can’t think of a single player on the entire team that ever cracked the starting lineup for a reason other than injury.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Elf and Dozier are career backups, plain and simple. What happened to Samia? Did he get his 15 minutes of fame?

Camp reports haven't had many kind words for Samia.

What about Udoh? Is he up to snuff physically after contracting the Covid?

Did he actually contract the COVID? I think that list was both for those who contracted, and those who MAY have had contact with someone with COVID. And they were not allowed to say which was which.

Thought I read on here that both Udoh and Cameron Smith both confirmed they had the virus.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Unseating an anointed starter just isn’t a thing under zimmer. It’s a part of his coaching style that could improve.

Agreed. he seems to have his guys and keeps trotting them out there matter how bad they play.

Not sure what the love affair this team has with Elflain but the guy has been a complete liability the last 2 seasons. If there was no one worthy of replacing him with Spielman should have drafted 15 G's[:D] or at least moved some money around and picked up a servicable FA G.

Zimmer does not call the shots with regards to the OL. "Hey Kubiak, Dennison WTF! Get Elflein in there, or else!" Preposterous.

I can’t think of a single player on the entire team that ever cracked the starting lineup for a reason other than injury.

Then you need gain more clarity in your thinking. Thielen, Austin Cutting, C.J. Ham, Brian O'Neill, Ifeadi Odenigbo, Danielle Hunter all either flat out replaced the incumbent or made it possible for the Vikings to release the incumbent, or drove the incumbent into retirement.