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Brad H -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/27/2020 7:41:19 PM)

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How many Super Bowls did we win with Peterson?


How many Super Bowls did we win with Carl Eller, Allan Page, Jim Marshall, Bud Grant, Randall McDaniel, Fran, Forman, Mick Tingeloff, Chris Coleman, and on and on and on .....

None!

How many did we play in with those guys?




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/27/2020 7:46:39 PM)

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Mackensie Alexander’s father found alive
Posted by Darin Gantt on August 27, 2020, 8:22 AM EDT

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The Bengals got some good news Thursday morning, that had nothing to do with football.

According to Jay Morrison of TheAthletic.com, Bengals cornerback Mackensie Alexander’s father has been found alive.


His father had been missing since Monday night, after a berry-picking trip in Florida. Alexander left camp, and was arrested Tuesday night for one charge of battery against the person last seen with his father.

According to Tom Pelissero of NFL Network, the Collier County Sheriff’s Office said the man walked up to the ranger station at the Kissimmee Prairie Preserve State Park at 7:15 a.m., and was “in good health and will be turned over to family members.”

Alexander and other family members are on their way to see him now, a welcome dose of good news.


The strangest part of this is that it took him 3 days to contact anybody. Maybe just lost in the wilderness with no cell phone. He rambled around for three days before finding civilization.


Early onset dementia, possibly? At least he's healthy and home.

Yep. He's OK and that's what matters.

That headline that Mac was arrested was just horrible clickbait. Knowing it could be construed that Mac was somehow involved in his father's disappearance. Whoever, was responsible for that is scum IMO.

It was true he was arrested. It wasn't click bait and by no means did it insinuate he was involved in his fathers disappearance. Quite the opposite as that he assaulted the man last seen with his father looking for answers. Mac was in Cinn monday practicing with the team when his father disappeared.

All this was was you jumping to false conclusions by only reading the headline.

I'm talking about the headline only. Once you read the article sure you find out what really happened, but when the headline reads and I don't remember exactly, but Mackensie Alexander arrested while trying to find his father it made many people think he was somehow involved with his father's disappearance. I mean I thought about that for a second, but knew he was at camp so he wouldn't have been personally involved, but he could have hired somebody or something like that. I think the headline should have made what he was arrested for clear. Just me. If you think that was a good fair headline it's your choice.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/27/2020 9:47:54 PM)

#Vikings RT Brian O'Neill said something today about Jayln Holmes that caught my attention, "I just know from blocking him for the last three years, this is the best Jayln Holmes has ever looked or played by a long shot."

Encouraging news for the new look Vikings defensive line

(Pierre Noujaim on Twitter)




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/27/2020 10:09:36 PM)

My guess is Danielle Hunter tweaked his hamstring. Not gonna overwork him and test it out 3 weeks after he hurt it.

(Vikings Range on Twitter)




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/27/2020 10:30:10 PM)

But undoubtedly one of the biggest winners of this camp so far has been WR Olabisi Johnson.. his flawless route running and great hands standout among all receivers

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)




DeLain -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/27/2020 11:17:37 PM)

https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-strengthen-connection-by-listening-to-painful-experiences

Vikings Strengthen Connection by Listening to Painful Experiences

EAGAN, Minn. — Mike Zimmer had a three-word question for Andre Patterson.

"Are you OK?"

The Vikings head coach checked in during lunchtime Thursday on his longtime friend and confidant who happens to be in his first year as the Vikings co-defensive coordinator.

"I could tell it was hard on him, all of the things going on," the head coach explained. "He said, 'It's hard, but it's because I'm a fixer and I want to help these players the best I can. He cares an awful lot about the players.

"He helps me in a lot of areas, as far as the way — because I don't know how to say things sometimes, he helps me with that," Zimmer added, "but we should be extremely proud of the job that he's done with the [Vikings] Social Justice group, leading them in the direction the players want to go. I think that's important."

Rather than a methodical continuation of Verizon Vikings Training Camp, Thursday's return to Twin Cities Orthopedics Performance Center after a players' day off, offered the opportunity to listen and learn about life experiences and focus on emotional external events.

Much like players in the locker room, Zimmer and Patterson have had different upbringings. Football brought their once parallel lives to an intersection, a brotherhood built on love and respect for one another.

Zimmer, 64, grew up in a predominantly white area of Illinois that differed greatly from the 60-year-old Patterson's experiences on the West Coast and during visits as a child to see family in the segregated South.

They've developed their "best-of-friends" connection over decades. They explained their togetherness and the team's approach to addressing major societal issues and external divisions during a video conference after practice.

Candid conversations, including some that haven't ended with a completely aligned ideology, have been part of the bonding through three years.

"We may not agree on how each of us sees it, but to me, the beauty of the relationship is that each one of us is willing to listen to one another and gain knowledge, whether I turn around and agree with how Zim' sees it or not," Patterson said. "At least I understand where he's coming from. And to me, I think that's the thing that we need in our society to make change happen."

There's not much that one man doesn't know about the other, but on Thursday, Zimmer learned that Patterson has been pulled over without cause on three occasions. None of the incidents resulted in a ticket — or worse — but that's not to say they were not hurtful experiences.

"That's not right," Zimmer's voice escalated before adding that a player shared a similar story.

Members of the Vikings Social Justice Committee, which formed in 2018, asked through Patterson for the time to have the meeting. Zimmer said he thought allocating that time for togetherness was more important than canceling football activities.

The Vikings have worked together through the aftermath of George Floyd's tragic death in Minneapolis in May. A police-involved shooting of a Black man named Jacob Blake in Wisconsin this week added to pain experienced by so many.

"We had probably a two-hour meeting, where a lot of the players expressed their opinions, their thoughts, and I think that was probably more important than sending people home today," Zimmer said. "So I'm proud of the team, the way that they went out and worked and practiced and also about the meeting, the way that they were able to communicate with themselves and one another."

Patterson said he thought Thursday's meeting was "outstanding."

"Like Zim' said, they spent over two hours communicating with one another and expressing things and coming up with ideas of the way that they can try to help make things better," Patterson said. "After they were done with one another, they called us as a coaching staff there with them to have us be involved in the conversation also. So for me it was a real proud moment to see the maturity that our football team has, how thoughtful our football players are and how caring they are."

Zimmer said "there really wasn't much discussion about not practicing." The focus instead was on how to make long-term positive impacts in multiple areas. Not practicing for a day, he said, wouldn't help achieve those goals.


Kendricks: We Are The Bridge To Our Communities
Eric Kendricks has been one of the Vikings players at the forefront of efforts, even before Floyd's death. He and Anthony Barr met with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo and people helped by non-profit All Square this summer. They've also done virtual visits with youth at the Hennepin County Juvenile Detention Center to connect with youth in spite of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Kendricks became emotional while participating in a live interview on NFL Network between Thursday's meeting and practice.

"I'm not the only one feeling that way," Kendricks told Twin Cities media members after practice. "But within that emotion, I feel like there's a lot if optimism. Optimism in the sense that, you know, we are starting to realize as athletes, as teammates, the kind of impact we have. And whether it's as a team or individually, what direction we're willing to take things and fight for. Fight for what's right."

Quarterback Kirk Cousins credited Kendricks and teammates for "walking the walk."

"He's been a great leader for us through the Social Justice Committee, been a great leader in today's team meeting," Cousins said. "He's done a lot to educate himself, he's done a lot to have great conversations with other people, including myself. He's been big on 'What are real, tangible steps that we can take?'

"He asks those questions in humility and wants to get answers, and wants to work to find answers," Cousins added. "That takes time, that takes energy, but he's willing to put in the work to do that."

Kendricks said the team meetings, whether virtually during the offseason program or Thursday's inside TCO Stadium, have been important because of their "educational factor."

"Just getting everyone informed overall … informing myself. Just having those uncomfortable conversations," Kendricks said. "We had another one today. Those conversations are not perfect, but that's the point. Nobody is perfect. There is change that needs to be had, and issues that need to be discussed, and we have to figure out what we can do as Vikings with our platform and our resources to help these human rights issues."

Cousins said teammates have shown an emphasis on learning about things that grieve teammates.

"I think that's most of what the last few months has been about – being a good listener, being a good question-asker," Cousins said. "I had heard a line from someone else that said one of the better ways to understand is to stand under. I've tried to take that posture of standing other people who I can learn from. … They've had first-hand experiences which is why it can hit so close to home.

"We talk about how we try to build a team during training camp," Cousins later added. "Well, I don't know of a more constructive way to build a team and a locker room and team chemistry than the time we spent this morning and the conversation we had. I think there was tremendous value in it for a lot of different reasons."

Cousins and Kendricks said they believe the team can benefit from the unity being forged. They hope it will extend into a community that has been strained by divisions.

Kendricks said he'll continue to focus on daily courtesies and his mindset as the Vikings initiatives continue to develop.

"I will continue to push myself to not only not judge people but to see what side they're coming from and be able to have a conversation with them to where it doesn't get unreasonable," Kendricks said. "I'll personally challenge myself to do that every day I leave the locker room. That's one of those small steps I can do as an individual."




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 1:11:56 AM)

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But undoubtedly one of the biggest winners of this camp so far has been WR Olabisi Johnson.. his flawless route running and great hands standout among all receivers

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)



i'll believe it when i see it...he's going to be playing against a higher level of talent at wr#2, and i think that in pads he plays on the slow side...i sure hope they recognize it early if it's not working....




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 2:14:35 AM)

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But undoubtedly one of the biggest winners of this camp so far has been WR Olabisi Johnson.. his flawless route running and great hands standout among all receivers

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)



i'll believe it when i see it...he's going to be playing against a higher level of talent at wr#2, and i think that in pads he plays on the slow side...i sure hope they recognize it early if it's not working....

I'm fully with you on this.




Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 6:46:04 AM)

I think it's pretty damn cool. Even if Bisi is #3 it's still 2 of the top 3 filled by 7th round and UDFA stock. To me it takes the bite out of missing on the Treadwell's and Williamson's. It's not an exact science. You just go with your gut based on the work you did and hope you're right. Fans get to bemoan and tally the misses but let's give credit where it's due. Maybe wait until Jefferson proves we got a 1st rounder right finally as well.

We'll see what this year brings but I'm dreaming of a quieting of some more bemoaning when they move up and land a premier G next year.

Once in the next 3 years we're going to be elite and we'll bust the door wide open taking our 1st championship. You know in your hearts it's going to happen.




Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 8:24:53 AM)

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I think it's pretty damn cool. Even if Bisi is #3 it's still 2 of the top 3 filled by 7th round and UDFA stock. To me it takes the bite out of missing on the Treadwell's and Williamson's. It's not an exact science. You just go with your gut based on the work you did and hope you're right. Fans get to bemoan and tally the misses but let's give credit where it's due. Maybe wait until Jefferson proves we got a 1st rounder right finally as well.

We'll see what this year brings but I'm dreaming of a quieting of some more bemoaning when they move up and land a premier G next year.

Once in the next 3 years we're going to be elite and we'll bust the door wide open taking our 1st championship. You know in your hearts it's going to happen.


"Liked"




Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 8:40:22 AM)

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I think it's pretty damn cool. Even if Bisi is #3 it's still 2 of the top 3 filled by 7th round and UDFA stock. To me it takes the bite out of missing on the Treadwell's and Williamson's. It's not an exact science. You just go with your gut based on the work you did and hope you're right. Fans get to bemoan and tally the misses but let's give credit where it's due. Maybe wait until Jefferson proves we got a 1st rounder right finally as well.

We'll see what this year brings but I'm dreaming of a quieting of some more bemoaning when they move up and land a premier G next year.

Once in the next 3 years we're going to be elite and we'll bust the door wide open taking our 1st championship. You know in your hearts it's going to happen.

Keenan Allen was considered slow also.

Sometimes guys just know how to get open(great cuts, recognizing soft spots in zone, winning off the line)




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 9:15:41 AM)

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I think it's pretty damn cool. Even if Bisi is #3 it's still 2 of the top 3 filled by 7th round and UDFA stock. To me it takes the bite out of missing on the Treadwell's and Williamson's. It's not an exact science. You just go with your gut based on the work you did and hope you're right. Fans get to bemoan and tally the misses but let's give credit where it's due. Maybe wait until Jefferson proves we got a 1st rounder right finally as well.

We'll see what this year brings but I'm dreaming of a quieting of some more bemoaning when they move up and land a premier G next year.

Once in the next 3 years we're going to be elite and we'll bust the door wide open taking our 1st championship. You know in your hearts it's going to happen.

Keenan Allen was considered slow also.

Sometimes guys just know how to get open(great cuts, recognizing soft spots in zone, winning off the line)



Yeah I liked him up to the draft as he had a lot of positives. Concern was athletic limitations. He's panned out.




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 9:24:06 AM)

I think Bisi will be fine if Kirk will trust throwing to him.




Brad H -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 10:08:49 AM)

I expect to see a rise in passes to Irv Smith this year.




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 10:12:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I think it's pretty damn cool. Even if Bisi is #3 it's still 2 of the top 3 filled by 7th round and UDFA stock. To me it takes the bite out of missing on the Treadwell's and Williamson's. It's not an exact science. You just go with your gut based on the work you did and hope you're right. Fans get to bemoan and tally the misses but let's give credit where it's due. Maybe wait until Jefferson proves we got a 1st rounder right finally as well.

We'll see what this year brings but I'm dreaming of a quieting of some more bemoaning when they move up and land a premier G next year.

Once in the next 3 years we're going to be elite and we'll bust the door wide open taking our 1st championship. You know in your hearts it's going to happen.


That's what I've been saying all off season.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 10:26:46 AM)

This was fun to watch.

https://twitter.com/VikeFans/status/1299336725165215744?s=09




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 10:28:28 AM)

Camp Winners:

Bisi Johnson
Alexander Hollins
Dakota Dozier
Cam Dantzler
Jaleel Johnson
Holton Hill
Dan Bailey

Camp Losers

Jake Browning
Nate Stanley
Dru Samia
Kris Boyd
Tajae Sharpe
Ezra Cleveland
Dillon Mitchell

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 10:30:22 AM)

The night before Norv Turner resigned in 2016, he and Zimmer had an all-night talk in his office. It soon came out that Zimmer had injured his eye “on a play card”. I’ll go to my grave thinking that meeting came to blows, and that’s how he got blinded.

(Luke Braun on Twitter)




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 10:35:38 AM)

Really solid camp so far for WR Alexander Hollins.. another player who has grown tremendously in year two #VikingsCamp

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 11:00:26 AM)

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The night before Norv Turner resigned in 2016, he and Zimmer had an all-night talk in his office. It soon came out that Zimmer had injured his eye “on a play card”. I’ll go to my grave thinking that meeting came to blows, and that’s how he got blinded.

(Luke Braun on Twitter)


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thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 12:08:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Camp Winners:

Bisi Johnson
Alexander Hollins
Dakota Dozier
Cam Dantzler
Jaleel Johnson
Holton Hill
Dan Bailey

Camp Losers

Jake Browning
Nate Stanley
Dru Samia
Kris Boyd
Tajae Sharpe
Ezra Cleveland
Dillon Mitchell

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)


I would also add Sean Mannion as a loser, although I really can't qualify that as "Camp" specific.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 12:19:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Camp Winners:

Bisi Johnson
Alexander Hollins
Dakota Dozier
Cam Dantzler
Jaleel Johnson
Holton Hill
Dan Bailey

Camp Losers

Jake Browning
Nate Stanley
Dru Samia
Kris Boyd
Tajae Sharpe
Ezra Cleveland
Dillon Mitchell

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)


I would also add Sean Mannion as a loser, although I really can't qualify that as "Camp" specific.


Danielle Hunter was definitely a camp loser.




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 12:32:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Camp Winners:

Bisi Johnson
Alexander Hollins
Dakota Dozier
Cam Dantzler
Jaleel Johnson
Holton Hill
Dan Bailey

Camp Losers

Jake Browning
Nate Stanley
Dru Samia
Kris Boyd
Tajae Sharpe
Ezra Cleveland
Dillon Mitchell

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)


I would also add Sean Mannion as a loser, although I really can't qualify that as "Camp" specific.


Mannion, Browning...I just don't get why we're so unwilling to have competent back-up QBs?

Or at least guys with some potential.




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 12:44:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Camp Winners:

Bisi Johnson
Alexander Hollins
Dakota Dozier
Cam Dantzler
Jaleel Johnson
Holton Hill
Dan Bailey

Camp Losers

Jake Browning
Nate Stanley
Dru Samia
Kris Boyd
Tajae Sharpe
Ezra Cleveland
Dillon Mitchell

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)


I would also add Sean Mannion as a loser, although I really can't qualify that as "Camp" specific.


Mannion, Browning...I just don't get why we're so unwilling to have competent back-up QBs?

Or at least guys with some potential.

Sgt. Sloter is available I believe.




Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/28/2020 12:51:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Camp Winners:

Bisi Johnson
Alexander Hollins
Dakota Dozier
Cam Dantzler
Jaleel Johnson
Holton Hill
Dan Bailey

Camp Losers

Jake Browning
Nate Stanley
Dru Samia
Kris Boyd
Tajae Sharpe
Ezra Cleveland
Dillon Mitchell

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)


I would also add Sean Mannion as a loser, although I really can't qualify that as "Camp" specific.


Mannion, Browning...I just don't get why we're so unwilling to have competent back-up QBs?

Or at least guys with some potential.

Stanley has potential. Big guy, big arm. Average athleticism.




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