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ratoppenheimer -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 2:37:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

10 minutes to go.. Vikings looking at Defensive Tackles Shelby Harris, Kawann Short.. CB William Jackson Shaquill Griffin.. and do I dare say it? OG Joe Thuney

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)



bring thuney in and show him the place...no team can compete with the facilities we've got....




Murph -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 2:58:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

10 minutes to go.. Vikings looking at Defensive Tackles Shelby Harris, Kawann Short.. CB William Jackson Shaquill Griffin.. and do I dare say it? OG Joe Thuney

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)



bring thuney in and show him the place...no team can compete with the facilities we've got....


Fingers crossed




Bill Jandro -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:11:18 PM)

Are they even doing visits?




Mark Anderson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:14:00 PM)

Thuney to Chiefs

5yr. 80M




Bill Jandro -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:15:59 PM)

[:-]




David Levine -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:16:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

10 minutes to go.. Vikings looking at Defensive Tackles Shelby Harris, Kawann Short.. CB William Jackson Shaquill Griffin.. and do I dare say it? OG Joe Thuney

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)



bring thuney in and show him the place...no team can compete with the facilities we've got....


I guess some players are more impressed by rosters than facilities...




Bill Jandro -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:18:10 PM)

Some of the top guards still out there:
- Gabe Jackson
- Trai Turner
- Lane Taylor
- Austin Blythe
- Richie Incognito
- Nick Easton
- James Carpenter
- Senio Kelemete
- John Miller
- Brian Winters
- Forrest Lamp
- Ethan Pocic




Mark Anderson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:18:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

10 minutes to go.. Vikings looking at Defensive Tackles Shelby Harris, Kawann Short.. CB William Jackson Shaquill Griffin.. and do I dare say it? OG Joe Thuney

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)



bring thuney in and show him the place...no team can compete with the facilities we've got....


I guess some players are more impressed by rosters than facilities...

Big money and Mahomes. Tough to compete with that.

Gabe Jackson? Lane Taylor? Draft Slater?




The Happy Norseman -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:19:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

10 minutes to go.. Vikings looking at Defensive Tackles Shelby Harris, Kawann Short.. CB William Jackson Shaquill Griffin.. and do I dare say it? OG Joe Thuney

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)



bring thuney in and show him the place...no team can compete with the facilities we've got....


I guess some players are more impressed by rosters than facilities...


And by getting paid $16 million a year. No way Spielman came close to that kind of money.




The Happy Norseman -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:21:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Some of the top guards still out there:
- Gabe Jackson
- Trai Turner
- Lane Taylor
- Austin Blythe
- Richie Incognito
- Nick Easton
- James Carpenter
- Senio Kelemete
- John Miller
- Brian Winters
- Forrest Lamp
- Ethan Pocic


While none of these guys are on Thuney's level, we can certainly find a major upgrade to Dozier at significantly less than $16 mil a year.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:30:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

#Lions are re-signing Romeo Okwara to a 3 year, $39M contract. Okwara back to Detroit! A solid pass rusher now off the market.

(Goat House on Twitter)

Lawson probably looking for at least 13M per year.


Tall cotton!




Bill Johanesen -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:32:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Elflein: 3yrs. 13.5M

Carolina


Wow...


Yeah you might want to refigure your Thuney numbers.




Mark Anderson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:33:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

#Lions are re-signing Romeo Okwara to a 3 year, $39M contract. Okwara back to Detroit! A solid pass rusher now off the market.

(Goat House on Twitter)

Lawson probably looking for at least 13M per year.


Tall cotton!

We pay him more (per year) than Hunter and things could get real interesting.




thebigo -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:33:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Thuney to Chiefs

5yr. 80M


Doesn't seem that much considering Elflein got $4.5M/yr for 3 years.

That Elflein signing may have set the bar WAY higher than it should have been. Unless teams start running out of money.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:33:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

In no way shape or form can we afford Joe Thuney


Yes they can....times the 12 million by 3. I wouldn't be surprised to see Stephen cut (Another 3.5 million). You spread the signing bonus over years of contract. So Thuney 10 million signing bonus over 5 years..you could make it easily under 4-5 million cap hit.

Signing bonus 10
1 3
2 4
3 4
4 4
5 5

Cap number about 5 million

Guys are going to be looking for big signing bonuses. Thuney will be looking at minimum 30M on a signing bonus.

Also need 7-8ml for rookie pool.


Keep that under wraps, people are having too much fun in dreamland.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:36:19 PM)

Spielman showing restraint. There could be benefits to that.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:38:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Spielmann showing restraint. There could be benefits to that.


The stuff you are posting shows we are in the mix for several player. "In the mix" meaning the faxed offer went through.

So there is no restraint on Spielman's part.

The restraint is being REJECTED and the offers LAUGHED at.




ratoppenheimer -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:39:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

10 minutes to go.. Vikings looking at Defensive Tackles Shelby Harris, Kawann Short.. CB William Jackson Shaquill Griffin.. and do I dare say it? OG Joe Thuney

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)



bring thuney in and show him the place...no team can compete with the facilities we've got....


I guess some players are more impressed by rosters than facilities...



sucker....




Phil Riewer -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:39:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Elflein: 3yrs. 13.5M

Carolina


Wow...


Yeah you might want to refigure your Thuney numbers.


One can always hope Bill. First things first.....get more cap space....cut Stephen, restructure Smith and add a year.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:41:12 PM)

And I believe RS has to sign players and still be below the cap (not sure on this for today onward). So the restraint is built in, probably offering a pittance.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:43:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Elflein: 3yrs. 13.5M

Carolina


Wow...


Yeah you might want to refigure your Thuney numbers.


One can always hope Bill. First things first.....get more cap space....cut Stephen, restructure Smith and add a year.


Oh, restructure now... says the anti-add a year poster. And those first things should have already been done for even suggesting the likes of Thuney.

Anyway, the Thuney contract was in another atmospheric layer. I suggest you get your eraser out.




Mark Anderson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:44:36 PM)

Mahomes has a 7M cap hit for 2021.

Then it is anywhere from 35-52M for the remainder of his contract.




Bill Jandro -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:46:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Thuney to Chiefs

5yr. 80M


Doesn't seem that much considering Elflein got $4.5M/yr for 3 years.

That Elflein signing may have set the bar WAY higher than it should have been. Unless teams start running out of money.

Carolina treating Elflain as a tier 1 FA[&:]




Bill Johanesen -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:47:38 PM)

Thuney's contract is top 5 of all OL!




Mark Anderson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 3:48:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

And I believe RS has to sign players and still be below the cap (not sure on this for today onward). So the restraint is built in, probably offering a pittance.

I think we can do one big signing. Lawson or Griffin.

Then probably bargain shopping.




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