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Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 5:39:08 PM)

Multiple Sources tell me the Minnesota #Vikings are closing a deal with iOL Joe Thuney

I won't say who wrote this on Twitter earlier, but it just goes to show that everything should be taken with a grain of salt until it is more clear. Lots of speculation.



David F. -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 5:42:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Multiple Sources tell me the Minnesota #Vikings are closing a deal with iOL Joe Thuney

I won't say who wrote this on Twitter earlier, but it just goes to show that everything should be taken with a grain of salt until it is more clear. Lots of speculation.


Some are in the know and many are not. There’s also the copy/pasters who try to make it look like they are ‘breaking news’



Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 5:54:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Multiple Sources tell me the Minnesota #Vikings are closing a deal with iOL Joe Thuney

I won't say who wrote this on Twitter earlier, but it just goes to show that everything should be taken with a grain of salt until it is more clear. Lots of speculation.


Some are in the know and many are not. There’s also the copy/pasters who try to make it look like they are ‘breaking news’


Right. If someone like Adam Schefter breaks with the news it's more credible.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 5:58:55 PM)

This may have been posted earlier. I forget now.

Some of the top guards still out there:
- Gabe Jackson
- Trai Turner
- Lane Taylor
- Austin Blythe
- Richie Incognito
- Nick Easton
- James Carpenter
- Senio Kelemete
- John Miller
- Brian Winters
- Forrest Lamp
- Ethan Pocic

(Will Ragatz on Twitter)



Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 6:01:16 PM)

Pat Elflein's pass block win rate at guard was 86.5% in 2020 -- that would have ranked 66th out of 71 players had he qualified.

His PBWR at guard in 2019 was slightly lower, 85.9%.

Similar story with run block win rate.

(ESPN / Next Gen Stats)

(Seth Walder on Twitter)



Bill Jandro -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 6:24:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Oh oh.

#Packers are in talks with AJ Green of #Bengals

(NFL Rumors on Twitter)

Green is cooked



bohumm -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 7:02:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

10 minutes to go.. Vikings looking at Defensive Tackles Shelby Harris, Kawann Short.. CB William Jackson Shaquill Griffin.. and do I dare say it? OG Joe Thuney

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)



bring thuney in and show him the place...no team can compete with the facilities we've got....

I don't think that goes as far as you think it does. Nice perk, but not the meat.



David F. -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 7:15:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

10 minutes to go.. Vikings looking at Defensive Tackles Shelby Harris, Kawann Short.. CB William Jackson Shaquill Griffin.. and do I dare say it? OG Joe Thuney

(Rick Sosa on Twitter)



bring thuney in and show him the place...no team can compete with the facilities we've got....

I don't think that goes as far as you think it does. Nice perk, but not the meat.


Maybe it would help if zimmer let them turn on the fireplace or put something on the 80 flat screens.



Bill Jandro -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 8:40:23 PM)

Lawson signs with the Jets at 15 per



Tom Sykes -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 10:15:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Lawson signs with the Jets at 15 per

Its the Jets.

Snatch that puppy right before it becomes official.



Tom Sykes -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 10:18:30 PM)

Chris Tomasson
@christomasson
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15m
New #Vikings defensive lineman Dalvin Tomlinson has played a variety of spots on the defensive line before, including defensive end, before being nose tackle last two years for Giants.


Chris Tomasson
@christomasson
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We'll see if #Vikings are looking at Dalvin Tomlinson as a three-technique defensive tackle. As it is, the move might not be good news for Shamar Stephen, who remains under contract, and Jaleel Johnson, a free agent. It's been believed regardless that Johnson likely won't return



Guest -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 10:28:37 PM)

Unfreakingreal we now have TWO I tell you TWO NOSE TACKLES.

$11 million for this dude...

Sorry Spielman has completely lost me.



beo -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 10:31:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

Unfreakingreal we now have TWO I tell you TWO NOSE TACKLES.

$11 million for this dude...

Sorry Spielman has completely lost me.


He looks like a solid player... I think he may actually be better at 3T than nose from what I've read and saw on youtube.

That being said, if we were going to go defense... would have preferred Shaquille Griffin, Lawson or Hendrickson.

All three of my preferences might be too expensive though.



Mark Anderson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 10:47:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

Unfreakingreal we now have TWO I tell you TWO NOSE TACKLES.

$11 million for this dude...

Sorry Spielman has completely lost me.

I was thinking the same thing.

I like to go to Walterfootball.com to see their FA grades. I was expecting a C- or D+ grade.

They gave it an A+. So they must think he can be a good 3tech.



Guest -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 10:52:20 PM)

I hope I have the opportunity to come in here and say I was insanely wrong about Tomlinson, but adding an additional NT at $11mil per, and passing on Kevin Zeitler at $7.3 makes absolutely no sense to me!

Again I hope I’m wayyyyy off.



Mark Anderson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 10:57:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

I hope I have the opportunity to come in here and say I was insanely wrong about Tomlinson, but adding an additional NT at $11mil per, and passing on Kevin Zeitler at $7.3 makes absolutely no sense to me!

Again I hope I’m wayyyyy off.

Maybe LB Nick Vigil will put you in a better mood. [8|]



Mark Anderson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 11:07:38 PM)

Looks like 8.5M cap hit this year for Tomlinson.



The Happy Norseman -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 11:10:51 PM)

I love the Tomlinson signing. We’re going to have our Williams Wall part two. The guy was a team captain, never missed a game in 4 years, and never ranked lower than a 75 per PFF.

Check out this film breakdown:
https://youtu.be/BIlIrrI-jZI

Guard and 3T DT we’re our top two priorities. One down, one to go.



Mark Anderson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 11:22:02 PM)

Sounds like we are pushing to re-sign Anthony Harris.

Must have dropped out of Top CB sweepstakes.



thebigo -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/15/2021 11:28:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

Unfreakingreal we now have TWO I tell you TWO NOSE TACKLES.

$11 million for this dude...

Sorry Spielman has completely lost me.


He looks like a solid player... I think he may actually be better at 3T than nose from what I've read and saw on youtube.

That being said, if we were going to go defense... would have preferred Shaquille Griffin, Lawson or Hendrickson.

All three of my preferences might be too expensive though.

quote:

Dalvin Tomlinson


If he can play 3T effectively, it probably makes him a 3 down player, will provide some run stopping flexibility situationally on 3rd down. He played an entire season at DE, I'm guessing in a 34 scheme, which pretty much equates to a 3T in a 43 scheme. He may have been playing out of position at NT in NY, similar to what the Vikings found themselves in 2020 season. That's my purple shades outlook.



Todd M -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/16/2021 12:47:53 AM)

I like the Tomlinson signing.

If we find another Griff or Hunter with one of 4 4ths...look out!



Todd M -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/16/2021 12:49:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Sounds like we are pushing to re-sign Anthony Harris.



Hope he's ready for a big pay cut. As much as he was 'just a body' out there I'd pass



ratoppenheimer -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/16/2021 2:02:10 AM)

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Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
One of the day's best numbers: 658, the combined weight of the #Vikings' starting defensive tackles as Dalvin Tomlinson (318 pounds) joins Michael Pierce (340), who's back from his opt-out. Two massive humans to eat up blocks and let Anthony Barr and Eric Kendricks run free.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/16/2021 4:46:51 AM)

Barr and Kendricks are going to have a monster season if they can stay healthy. The Vikings still need to address their pass rush, though.



ratoppenheimer -> RE: Free Agency 2021 (3/16/2021 6:49:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Barr and Kendricks are going to have a monster season if they can stay healthy. The Vikings still need to address their pass rush, though.



i think/hope we're still going after griffen...i could live with; hunter, wonnum, weatherly, willekes - griffen...and perhaps a new kid in this year's draft....

plus, if we could develop watts and lynch in the middle that would be very helpful....

i always considered rashod hill a good backup tackle, but i'm getting a feeling that this season spielman sees him as a starting guard....



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