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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

So many tweets on Twitter saying we need to trade Hunter? Why, because he was injured the last two years? One year has nothing to do with the next.

I thought we were all jumping for joy bc we him locked up on a reasonable deal?

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

This is depressing ...

Dustin Baker @DustBaker
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4h
The 2021 Vikings are the first team in NFL history to have a QB with 30+ Passing TDs, a RB with 1,000+ Rushing Yards, a WR with 1,500+ Receiving Yards -- and a losing record to show for it.

Thanks Zim.

I read today that Kirk cousins needs 40 yards passing and 0 INTs this weekend to become the second player in history to have 4000+ yards 30+ TDs and less than 10 INTs to finish with a losing record. The first player to do that was also Kirk cousins.

Kirk may not be the problem... but he doesn't seem to be the answer either.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

So many tweets on Twitter saying we need to trade Hunter? Why, because he was injured the last two years? One year has nothing to do with the next.

I thought we were all jumping for joy bc we him locked up on a reasonable deal?

I was once it looked like he was coming back better than ever. Then I wasn't.

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ORIGINAL: marty

What is the Ravens Curse? Well, the Vikings and Ravens have played six times in franchise history. In the three games that Minnesota was victorious, the Vikings later galloped to the NFC Championship. In the three games that Minnesota lost, the head coach was fired in the same season.

1998 – Vikings Win (NFCC appearance)
2002 – Vikings Lose (Dennis Green fired)
2005 – Vikings Lose (Mike Tice fired)
2009 – Vikings Win (NFCC appearance)
2013 – Vikings Lose (Leslie Frazier fired)
2017 – Vikings Win (NFCC appearance)
2020 – Vikings Lose (fill in the blank)

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ORIGINAL: marty

So it's Jeff Ireland from the Saints for GM, Chargers OC Joe Lombardi for HC, and Joe Brady, Jefferson's passing/wr coach from LSU as OC.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: marty

So it's Jeff Ireland from the Saints for GM, Chargers OC Joe Lombardi for HC, and Joe Brady, Jefferson's passing/wr coach from LSU as OC.

I would take it. Mostly because it's three names that are not Speilman, Zimmer, or Kubiak

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

This is depressing ...

Dustin Baker @DustBaker
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4h
The 2021 Vikings are the first team in NFL history to have a QB with 30+ Passing TDs, a RB with 1,000+ Rushing Yards, a WR with 1,500+ Receiving Yards -- and a losing record to show for it.

Thanks Zim.

I read today that Kirk cousins needs 40 yards passing and 0 INTs this weekend to become the second player in history to have 4000+ yards 30+ TDs and less than 10 INTs to finish with a losing record. The first player to do that was also Kirk cousins.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

This is depressing ...

Dustin Baker @DustBaker
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4h
The 2021 Vikings are the first team in NFL history to have a QB with 30+ Passing TDs, a RB with 1,000+ Rushing Yards, a WR with 1,500+ Receiving Yards -- and a losing record to show for it.

Thanks Zim.

I read today that Kirk cousins needs 40 yards passing and 0 INTs this weekend to become the second player in history to have 4000+ yards 30+ TDs and less than 10 INTs to finish with a losing record. The first player to do that was also Kirk cousins.

Kirk may not be the problem... but he doesn't seem to be the answer either.

Thing is we say things like that in a sport were there are more teammates and coaches than any other sport on the planet - and he's suppose to get us to the SB regardless of his surroundings.

im betting he's here next year.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

This is depressing ...

Dustin Baker @DustBaker
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4h
The 2021 Vikings are the first team in NFL history to have a QB with 30+ Passing TDs, a RB with 1,000+ Rushing Yards, a WR with 1,500+ Receiving Yards -- and a losing record to show for it.

Thanks Zim.

I read today that Kirk cousins needs 40 yards passing and 0 INTs this weekend to become the second player in history to have 4000+ yards 30+ TDs and less than 10 INTs to finish with a losing record. The first player to do that was also Kirk cousins.

This team has broken numerous records of ineptitude this season. Been looking for an article or tweet that summarizes them all.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

This is depressing ...

Dustin Baker @DustBaker
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4h
The 2021 Vikings are the first team in NFL history to have a QB with 30+ Passing TDs, a RB with 1,000+ Rushing Yards, a WR with 1,500+ Receiving Yards -- and a losing record to show for it.

Thanks Zim.

I read today that Kirk cousins needs 40 yards passing and 0 INTs this weekend to become the second player in history to have 4000+ yards 30+ TDs and less than 10 INTs to finish with a losing record. The first player to do that was also Kirk cousins.

Kirk may not be the problem... but he doesn't seem to be the answer either.

Thing is we say things like that in a sport were there are more teammates and coaches than any other sport on the planet - and he's suppose to get us to the SB regardless of his surroundings.

im betting he's here next year.

The bottomline is, QBs are judged on making plays or not making negative plays or raising the level of their teammate's play or attacking opponents or making adjustments ... that make a difference in the win column. No other position in the sport has as much influence.

And Cousins does make a difference ... nobody should dispute that ... at about a 50% positive rate over his 10 year career regardless of teammates, coaches, opponents, franchises, etc.

That's just not good enough.

But I agree, I think he is here next year because he's overpaid by any measure and why would anybody else trade for their own cap killing meteor extinction event.

If Cousins had a contract commensurate to what he brings, I think he's d be easy to move and easy to get something in return. Or we'd fall back on him guilt free and without remorse for another year as an effective bridge to our next stab at a franchise QB.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

This is depressing ...

Dustin Baker @DustBaker
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4h
The 2021 Vikings are the first team in NFL history to have a QB with 30+ Passing TDs, a RB with 1,000+ Rushing Yards, a WR with 1,500+ Receiving Yards -- and a losing record to show for it.

Thanks Zim.

I read today that Kirk cousins needs 40 yards passing and 0 INTs this weekend to become the second player in history to have 4000+ yards 30+ TDs and less than 10 INTs to finish with a losing record. The first player to do that was also Kirk cousins.

This team has broken numerous records of ineptitude this season. Been looking for an article or tweet that summarizes them all.

Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
8:45 AM · Jan 15, 2014·UberSocial for BlackBerry

Vikings are hiring Mike Zimmer as their HC, per league source.

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Trade Cousins for Carr

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

This is depressing ...

Dustin Baker @DustBaker
·
4h
The 2021 Vikings are the first team in NFL history to have a QB with 30+ Passing TDs, a RB with 1,000+ Rushing Yards, a WR with 1,500+ Receiving Yards -- and a losing record to show for it.

Thanks Zim.

I read today that Kirk cousins needs 40 yards passing and 0 INTs this weekend to become the second player in history to have 4000+ yards 30+ TDs and less than 10 INTs to finish with a losing record. The first player to do that was also Kirk cousins.

Kirk may not be the problem... but he doesn't seem to be the answer either.

Thing is we say things like that in a sport were there are more teammates and coaches than any other sport on the planet - and he's suppose to get us to the SB regardless of his surroundings.

im betting he's here next year.

The bottomline is, QBs are judged on making plays or not making negative plays or raising the level of their teammate's play or attacking opponents or making adjustments ... that make a difference in the win column. No other position in the sport has as much influence.

And Cousins does make a difference ... nobody should dispute that ... at about a 50% positive rate over his 10 year career regardless of teammates, coaches, opponents, franchises, etc.

That's just not good enough.

But I agree, I think he is here next year because he's overpaid by any measure and why would anybody else trade for their own cap killing meteor extinction event.

If Cousins had a contract commensurate to what he brings, I think he's d be easy to move and easy to get something in return. Or we'd fall back on him guilt free and without remorse for another year as an effective bridge to our next stab at a franchise QB.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

QBs that put their team in a position to win and the FGs are missed, or the rb fumbles, according to ref and replay, the unnecessary roughness isn't called and the defense gives up the entire field, again, etc, etc and there's no credit given to the QB for doing his part ...

.... ugh, I don't want to get into defending Cousins on a message on messageboard - my fragile self-esteem could take a beating

- but it ain't Cousins fault we didn't make the playoffs, imo

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Sam Ekstrom@SamEkstrom

Mike Zimmer says the rush defense has been better on film that the numbers indicate. Some of the relevant numbers:

32nd in expected points allowed
31st in success rate
30th in yards per carry
T30th in 100-yard games allowed
27th in overall yardage
21st in 10+ yard runs allowed

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Sam Ekstrom@SamEkstrom

Mike Zimmer says the rush defense has been better on film that the numbers indicate. Some of the relevant numbers:

32nd in expected points allowed
31st in success rate
30th in yards per carry
T30th in 100-yard games allowed
27th in overall yardage
21st in 10+ yard runs allowed

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

This is depressing ...

Dustin Baker @DustBaker
·
4h
The 2021 Vikings are the first team in NFL history to have a QB with 30+ Passing TDs, a RB with 1,000+ Rushing Yards, a WR with 1,500+ Receiving Yards -- and a losing record to show for it.

Thanks Zim.

I read today that Kirk cousins needs 40 yards passing and 0 INTs this weekend to become the second player in history to have 4000+ yards 30+ TDs and less than 10 INTs to finish with a losing record. The first player to do that was also Kirk cousins.

Kirk may not be the problem... but he doesn't seem to be the answer either.

Thing is we say things like that in a sport were there are more teammates and coaches than any other sport on the planet - and he's suppose to get us to the SB regardless of his surroundings.

im betting he's here next year.

The bottomline is, QBs are judged on making plays or not making negative plays or raising the level of their teammate's play or attacking opponents or making adjustments ... that make a difference in the win column. No other position in the sport has as much influence.

And Cousins does make a difference ... nobody should dispute that ... at about a 50% positive rate over his 10 year career regardless of teammates, coaches, opponents, franchises, etc.

That's just not good enough.

But I agree, I think he is here next year because he's overpaid by any measure and why would anybody else trade for their own cap killing meteor extinction event.

If Cousins had a contract commensurate to what he brings, I think he's d be easy to move and easy to get something in return. Or we'd fall back on him guilt free and without remorse for another year as an effective bridge to our next stab at a franchise QB.

QBs that put their team in a position to win and the FGs are missed, or the rb fumbles, according to ref and replay, the unnecessary roughness isn't called and the defense gives up the entire field, again, etc, etc and there's no credit given to the QB for doing his part ...

.... ugh, I don't want to get into defending Cousins on a message on messageboard - my fragile self-esteem could take a beating

- but it ain't Cousins fault we didn't make the playoffs, imo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

I think losing to the bears in a meaningless game is going to be easier than you think..

Has this team ever played up to its potential or expectations?

A few brief series or three.. in a couple games.. followed by the inevitable bone headed play calling and turnover, or the offensive or defensive lines turning into wet tissue paper.