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Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 8:40:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young We had people on here willing to get Watson. it was still way too early to make a call on watson - best to just stand pat and wait...this could turn out to be near-fatal for cleveland.... baker mayfield - where are you?.... New information surfaced when the latest (23rd) woman filed a lawsuit. Including some twisted details as to what he was asking her to do. Also, Watson's attorney Rusty Harden gave an interview (which may have been older news) and proofed he might even be sleezier than Watson. With the problems Goodell and the NFL are currently going through with the Gruden lawsuit and their lack of investigating Daniel Snyder I can't see them not suspending Watson for the entire upcoming season.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 8:59:23 AM)
she had three encounters with Watson starting in 2020, whose behavior, she said, "grew worse during every massage **** Doesn't look good her booking 2 more sessions.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 9:06:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Vikings sign Johnathan Bullard Waive Kenny Willekes Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP 1-yr deal for new #Vikings DL Jonathan Bullard. Big connection is with defensive line coach Chris Rumph. They were together with the Florida Gators. Rumph a big reason why Bullard is here. DC Ed Donatell was on Bears staff when Bullard was there, as well. So is Bullard, like, a thing? 5 seasons, 3 1/2 career sacks, has done next to nothing the last 2 seasons. Doesn't seem like he is a thing. This is another “raise the floor” signing for the Vikings, which fits what I think is their plan this year to improve the bottom half of the roster while leaving most of the core veteran starters in place. I’ve been hoping they’d sign another 5-tech DL, like Sheldon Richardson. Bullard hasn’t been as good as Richardson, but he’s 3 years younger (29 this year) and probably cheaper (this will likely be a vet minimum signing with little or no guarantees). I didn’t like the idea of going into the year with the 4th best DL on the depth chart being one of James Lynch (who might not really be an NFL player, depending on how he does changing positions back to 5-tech, or staying at DT despite his small frame), injury reclamation project Jullian Taylor (who hasn’t played since 2019), 2nd year project Jaylen Twyman (who hasn’t played since college in 2019), or rookie project Esezi Otomewo (who’s going to be changing positions). Now they can keep 2 of those guys instead of 3, and the rookie will have to beat out a veteran to make the team. Bullard is not a project. He’s a decent rotational backup NFL player who knows the scheme and has no injury concerns. He’s nothing special, but he may have some good football left, getting back with coaches who know him and can put him to good use.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 9:42:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Vikings sign Johnathan Bullard Waive Kenny Willekes Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP 1-yr deal for new #Vikings DL Jonathan Bullard. Big connection is with defensive line coach Chris Rumph. They were together with the Florida Gators. Rumph a big reason why Bullard is here. DC Ed Donatell was on Bears staff when Bullard was there, as well. So is Bullard, like, a thing? 5 seasons, 3 1/2 career sacks, has done next to nothing the last 2 seasons. Doesn't seem like he is a thing. This is another “raise the floor” signing for the Vikings, which fits what I think is their plan this year to improve the bottom half of the roster while leaving most of the core veteran starters in place. I’ve been hoping they’d sign another 5-tech DL, like Sheldon Richardson. Bullard hasn’t been as good as Richardson, but he’s 3 years younger (29 this year) and probably cheaper (this will likely be a vet minimum signing with little or no guarantees). I didn’t like the idea of going into the year with the 4th best DL on the depth chart being one of James Lynch (who might not really be an NFL player, depending on how he does changing positions back to 5-tech, or staying at DT despite his small frame), injury reclamation project Jullian Taylor (who hasn’t played since 2019), 2nd year project Jaylen Twyman (who hasn’t played since college in 2019), or rookie project Esezi Otomewo (who’s going to be changing positions). Now they can keep 2 of those guys instead of 3, and the rookie will have to beat out a veteran to make the team. Bullard is not a project. He’s a decent rotational backup NFL player who knows the scheme and has no injury concerns. He’s nothing special, but he may have some good football left, getting back with coaches who know him and can put him to good use. No injury concerns, yet he has only played 15 of a possible 33 games in the last 2 seasons on a middling 2020 Seattle defense, and a BAD 2021 Atlanta defense. Extreme meh.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 9:51:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Vikings sign Johnathan Bullard Waive Kenny Willekes Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP 1-yr deal for new #Vikings DL Jonathan Bullard. Big connection is with defensive line coach Chris Rumph. They were together with the Florida Gators. Rumph a big reason why Bullard is here. DC Ed Donatell was on Bears staff when Bullard was there, as well. So is Bullard, like, a thing? 5 seasons, 3 1/2 career sacks, has done next to nothing the last 2 seasons. Doesn't seem like he is a thing. This is another “raise the floor” signing for the Vikings, which fits what I think is their plan this year to improve the bottom half of the roster while leaving most of the core veteran starters in place. I’ve been hoping they’d sign another 5-tech DL, like Sheldon Richardson. Bullard hasn’t been as good as Richardson, but he’s 3 years younger (29 this year) and probably cheaper (this will likely be a vet minimum signing with little or no guarantees). I didn’t like the idea of going into the year with the 4th best DL on the depth chart being one of James Lynch (who might not really be an NFL player, depending on how he does changing positions back to 5-tech, or staying at DT despite his small frame), injury reclamation project Jullian Taylor (who hasn’t played since 2019), 2nd year project Jaylen Twyman (who hasn’t played since college in 2019), or rookie project Esezi Otomewo (who’s going to be changing positions). Now they can keep 2 of those guys instead of 3, and the rookie will have to beat out a veteran to make the team. Bullard is not a project. He’s a decent rotational backup NFL player who knows the scheme and has no injury concerns. He’s nothing special, but he may have some good football left, getting back with coaches who know him and can put him to good use. No injury concerns, yet he has only played 15 of a possible 33 games in the last 2 seasons on a middling 2020 Seattle defense, and a BAD 2021 Atlanta defense. Extreme meh. I think he mainly shores up our lack of front 3 players suited for this scheme vs an oft injured Willekes that doesn't fit. He probably does get playing time in a back up or rotational role. But I agree that he is meh....

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 10:26:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Vikings sign Johnathan Bullard Waive Kenny Willekes But, but Willikes had SOOO much potential, read it right here. Or maybe it was Lynch. I get pseudo-overachieving mid-rounders mixed up a lot. That was me on Willikes bandwagon. I think he is a 4-3 LDE. Probably not a fit for 3-4. Also, I think they said there was an injury. Finally, maybe he just had a couple good games(Ravens and Bears) against some horrible RTs and I overrated him. [8\|] willikes is a 6'-3", 260 pound d-end that runs a 4.90/40...not an edge guy and not an anchor guy.... Glad they are starting to weed these guys out.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 10:29:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Vikings sign Johnathan Bullard Waive Kenny Willekes Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP 1-yr deal for new #Vikings DL Jonathan Bullard. Big connection is with defensive line coach Chris Rumph. They were together with the Florida Gators. Rumph a big reason why Bullard is here. DC Ed Donatell was on Bears staff when Bullard was there, as well. So is Bullard, like, a thing? 5 seasons, 3 1/2 career sacks, has done next to nothing the last 2 seasons. Doesn't seem like he is a thing. This is another “raise the floor” signing for the Vikings, which fits what I think is their plan this year to improve the bottom half of the roster while leaving most of the core veteran starters in place. I’ve been hoping they’d sign another 5-tech DL, like Sheldon Richardson. Bullard hasn’t been as good as Richardson, but he’s 3 years younger (29 this year) and probably cheaper (this will likely be a vet minimum signing with little or no guarantees). I didn’t like the idea of going into the year with the 4th best DL on the depth chart being one of James Lynch (who might not really be an NFL player, depending on how he does changing positions back to 5-tech, or staying at DT despite his small frame), injury reclamation project Jullian Taylor (who hasn’t played since 2019), 2nd year project Jaylen Twyman (who hasn’t played since college in 2019), or rookie project Esezi Otomewo (who’s going to be changing positions). Now they can keep 2 of those guys instead of 3, and the rookie will have to beat out a veteran to make the team. Bullard is not a project. He’s a decent rotational backup NFL player who knows the scheme and has no injury concerns. He’s nothing special, but he may have some good football left, getting back with coaches who know him and can put him to good use. Bullard hasn’t been as good as Richardson, but he’s 3 years younger (29 this year) LMAO!

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 10:32:11 AM)
We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 11:29:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 12:33:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Between the ‘Chester the molester: years played > quality delivered’ crowd and the ‘has not played well as a back-up therefore oozes with starter potential under our newbie coaching staff’ crowd … we continue our blazing offseason. If one-legged Zad can compensate for the loss of Barr Vigil Pierce Richardson Woods etc … (we were 3-4 with Hunter last year so please dont include him or any reached for draft picks to legitimize the defense … yet) … we may just raise the bar to a marginal standard. If ‘hope is the thing with feathers’, we’re a plucked chicken. I don’t know what that means but it sounds negative so I’m going with it.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 12:58:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Between the ‘Chester the molester: years played > quality delivered’ crowd and the ‘has not played well as a back-up therefore oozes with starter potential under our newbie coaching staff’ crowd … we continue our blazing offseason. If one-legged Zad can compensate for the loss of Barr Vigil Pierce Richardson Woods etc … (we were 3-4 with Hunter last year so please dont include him or any reached for draft picks to legitimize the defense … yet) … we may just raise the bar to a marginal standard. If ‘hope is the thing with feathers’, we’re a plucked chicken. I don’t know what that means but it sounds negative so I’m going with it. I'm positively oozing with positivity. Z and Hunter will play 17 games each this season, our draft picks will contribute year one, the OL will be greatly improved and Kirk will have an MVP season. Championship all the way.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 5:12:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Between the ‘Chester the molester: years played > quality delivered’ crowd and the ‘has not played well as a back-up therefore oozes with starter potential under our newbie coaching staff’ crowd … we continue our blazing offseason. If one-legged Zad can compensate for the loss of Barr Vigil Pierce Richardson Woods etc … (we were 3-4 with Hunter last year so please dont include him or any reached for draft picks to legitimize the defense … yet) … we may just raise the bar to a marginal standard. If ‘hope is the thing with feathers’, we’re a plucked chicken. I don’t know what that means but it sounds negative so I’m going with it. I'm positively oozing with positivity. Z and Hunter will play 17 games each this season, our draft picks will contribute year one, the OL will be greatly improved and Kirk will have an MVP season. Championship all the way. We can agree on you oozing ... but that's about it.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 5:51:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Between the ‘Chester the molester: years played > quality delivered’ crowd and the ‘has not played well as a back-up therefore oozes with starter potential under our newbie coaching staff’ crowd … we continue our blazing offseason. If one-legged Zad can compensate for the loss of Barr Vigil Pierce Richardson Woods etc … (we were 3-4 with Hunter last year so please dont include him or any reached for draft picks to legitimize the defense … yet) … we may just raise the bar to a marginal standard. If ‘hope is the thing with feathers’, we’re a plucked chicken. I don’t know what that means but it sounds negative so I’m going with it. I'm positively oozing with positivity. Z and Hunter will play 17 games each this season, our draft picks will contribute year one, the OL will be greatly improved and Kirk will have an MVP season. Championship all the way. We can agree on you oozing ... but that's about it. DUNK!

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 9:52:05 PM)
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Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/4/2022 11:19:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Between the ‘Chester the molester: years played > quality delivered’ crowd and the ‘has not played well as a back-up therefore oozes with starter potential under our newbie coaching staff’ crowd … we continue our blazing offseason. If one-legged Zad can compensate for the loss of Barr Vigil Pierce Richardson Woods etc … (we were 3-4 with Hunter last year so please dont include him or any reached for draft picks to legitimize the defense … yet) … we may just raise the bar to a marginal standard. If ‘hope is the thing with feathers’, we’re a plucked chicken. I don’t know what that means but it sounds negative so I’m going with it. I'm positively oozing with positivity. Z and Hunter will play 17 games each this season, our draft picks will contribute year one, the OL will be greatly improved and Kirk will have an MVP season. Championship all the way. We can agree on you oozing ... but that's about it. :) I can understand this position. You can be right if they suck, odds probably are with you, and historically it's been demonstrated often enough that's it's pretty easy to just say, "Im gonna have to eat some crow on this one" if youre wrong ;) WTF! The odds are with me? You make it sound like I want the team to go up in flames. You are confusing me with someone who values their football opinion more than the success of this team. I am neither a negative person nor have I been historically negative in here. Far from it ... I have tried hard to maintain a balanced view of both the good and bad. Yes, I have been struggling the last two-three years to find something to be optimistic about in here ... but even then I sometimes make fun of my own negativity ... or didn't you catch that vibe in my post above?

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/5/2022 10:22:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Between the ‘Chester the molester: years played > quality delivered’ crowd and the ‘has not played well as a back-up therefore oozes with starter potential under our newbie coaching staff’ crowd … we continue our blazing offseason. If one-legged Zad can compensate for the loss of Barr Vigil Pierce Richardson Woods etc … (we were 3-4 with Hunter last year so please dont include him or any reached for draft picks to legitimize the defense … yet) … we may just raise the bar to a marginal standard. If ‘hope is the thing with feathers’, we’re a plucked chicken. I don’t know what that means but it sounds negative so I’m going with it. I'm positively oozing with positivity. Z and Hunter will play 17 games each this season, our draft picks will contribute year one, the OL will be greatly improved and Kirk will have an MVP season. Championship all the way. We can agree on you oozing ... but that's about it. :) I can understand this position. You can be right if they suck, odds probably are with you, and historically it's been demonstrated often enough that's it's pretty easy to just say, "Im gonna have to eat some crow on this one" if youre wrong ;) WTF! The odds are with me? You make it sound like I want the team to go up in flames. You are confusing me with someone who values their football opinion more than the success of this team. I am neither a negative person nor have I been historically negative in here. Far from it ... I have tried hard to maintain a balanced view of both the good and bad. Yes, I have been struggling the last two-three years to find something to be optimistic about in here ... but even then I sometimes make fun of my own negativity ... or didn't you catch that vibe in my post above? Yeah, why do you post hate about the Vikings just so you can be right? Every. Damn. Year. [&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:] For some, it appears the offseason should be rah, rah, kumbaya. Much prefer critical analysis even if it's just from a bunch of posters.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/5/2022 10:23:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Between the ‘Chester the molester: years played > quality delivered’ crowd and the ‘has not played well as a back-up therefore oozes with starter potential under our newbie coaching staff’ crowd … we continue our blazing offseason. If one-legged Zad can compensate for the loss of Barr Vigil Pierce Richardson Woods etc … (we were 3-4 with Hunter last year so please dont include him or any reached for draft picks to legitimize the defense … yet) … we may just raise the bar to a marginal standard. If ‘hope is the thing with feathers’, we’re a plucked chicken. I don’t know what that means but it sounds negative so I’m going with it. I'm positively oozing with positivity. Z and Hunter will play 17 games each this season, our draft picks will contribute year one, the OL will be greatly improved and Kirk will have an MVP season. Championship all the way. We can agree on you oozing ... but that's about it. Post of the offseason, and a candidate for higher level awards.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/5/2022 10:28:51 AM)
I was going for some humor, Tom. Decided it'd get taken wrong - shocker, huh? - you got nothing right in your post, bill ... but if it makes you happy, continue on

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/5/2022 10:30:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Between the ‘Chester the molester: years played > quality delivered’ crowd and the ‘has not played well as a back-up therefore oozes with starter potential under our newbie coaching staff’ crowd … we continue our blazing offseason. If one-legged Zad can compensate for the loss of Barr Vigil Pierce Richardson Woods etc … (we were 3-4 with Hunter last year so please dont include him or any reached for draft picks to legitimize the defense … yet) … we may just raise the bar to a marginal standard. If ‘hope is the thing with feathers’, we’re a plucked chicken. I don’t know what that means but it sounds negative so I’m going with it. I'm positively oozing with positivity. Z and Hunter will play 17 games each this season, our draft picks will contribute year one, the OL will be greatly improved and Kirk will have an MVP season. Championship all the way. We can agree on you oozing ... but that's about it. :) I can understand this position. You can be right if they suck, odds probably are with you, and historically it's been demonstrated often enough that's it's pretty easy to just say, "Im gonna have to eat some crow on this one" if youre wrong ;) WTF! The odds are with me? You make it sound like I want the team to go up in flames. You are confusing me with someone who values their football opinion more than the success of this team. I am neither a negative person nor have I been historically negative in here. Far from it ... I have tried hard to maintain a balanced view of both the good and bad. Yes, I have been struggling the last two-three years to find something to be optimistic about in here ... but even then I sometimes make fun of my own negativity ... or didn't you catch that vibe in my post above? - wow, I see you posted this almost an hour after I deleted it. Huh? edit: part of the whole idea was my recalling with some level of fascination the people that have posted "I have to eat crow here ...." the last 25 years or so on these sites. Also, I don't think you can really recall one time I've attacked you, can you?

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/5/2022 10:39:41 AM)
With the first wave of dust settling, I think they did an ok/mediocre/average job addressing LB/Edge, as well as the secondary... on paper at least. The DL is another story, and really is a mystery, but there doesn't seem to be top tier talent anywhere on the DL even on paper. Big hopes for Phillips, but I think Tomlinson will be the D's version of Bradbury although it's not his fault. Occupy two blockers? Fantasy. Any decent solo blocker can handle him which frees up another OL. Currently, Watts is a DE project. It remains to be seen how often they will line up in the 3-4, which is a good CYA excuse for now.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/5/2022 10:47:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Between the ‘Chester the molester: years played > quality delivered’ crowd and the ‘has not played well as a back-up therefore oozes with starter potential under our newbie coaching staff’ crowd … we continue our blazing offseason. If one-legged Zad can compensate for the loss of Barr Vigil Pierce Richardson Woods etc … (we were 3-4 with Hunter last year so please dont include him or any reached for draft picks to legitimize the defense … yet) … we may just raise the bar to a marginal standard. If ‘hope is the thing with feathers’, we’re a plucked chicken. I don’t know what that means but it sounds negative so I’m going with it. I'm positively oozing with positivity. Z and Hunter will play 17 games each this season, our draft picks will contribute year one, the OL will be greatly improved and Kirk will have an MVP season. Championship all the way. We can agree on you oozing ... but that's about it. :) I can understand this position. You can be right if they suck, odds probably are with you, and historically it's been demonstrated often enough that's it's pretty easy to just say, "Im gonna have to eat some crow on this one" if youre wrong ;) WTF! The odds are with me? You make it sound like I want the team to go up in flames. You are confusing me with someone who values their football opinion more than the success of this team. I am neither a negative person nor have I been historically negative in here. Far from it ... I have tried hard to maintain a balanced view of both the good and bad. Yes, I have been struggling the last two-three years to find something to be optimistic about in here ... but even then I sometimes make fun of my own negativity ... or didn't you catch that vibe in my post above? - wow, I see you posted this almost an hour after I deleted it. Huh? edit: part of the whole idea was my recalling with some level of fascination the people that have posted "I have to eat crow here ...." the last 25 years or so on these sites. Also, I don't think you can really recall one time I've attacked you, can you? LOL, I too saw where he sat on your deleted post! You habitually post then delete the post... on average, how long do you leave your posts untouched? I routinely hear about people in Twitter deleting their tweets. You were years ahead of that MO!

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/5/2022 11:14:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen With the first wave of dust settling, I think they did an ok/mediocre/average job addressing LB/Edge, as well as the secondary... on paper at least. The DL is another story, and really is a mystery, but there doesn't seem to be top tier talent anywhere on the DL even on paper. Big hopes for Phillips, but I think Tomlinson will be the D's version of Bradbury although it's not his fault. Occupy two blockers? Fantasy. Any decent solo blocker can handle him which frees up another OL. Currently, Watts is a DE project. It remains to be seen how often they will line up in the 3-4, which is a good CYA excuse for now. Phillips has some pretty good film at NT against the run while at Buf. Being things are slow, I might login to a Bills forum and get the skinny on what they thought of him. I wasn't very impressed with Tomlinson last season but PFF (for what it's worth) seemed to really like him.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/5/2022 12:00:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J I was going for some humor, Tom. Decided it'd get taken wrong - shocker, huh? - you got nothing right in your post, bill ... but if it makes you happy, continue on My error. I thought you were grouping me with those rancorous trolls that come in here for no other reason than to be annoying. I'm annoying on a much higher level. EDIT: I know I'm sick and tired of having nothing substantially positive to say about this team. I apologize if its grating but its not by choice. Yes there are minor blips and beeps IMO in the right direction – but right now those are all up in the cloud ... I genuinely have no idea what this season will look like.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/5/2022 12:04:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen We have great depth on the DL in Phillips, Tomlinson, and Watts. We just need three starters. That about sums it up in a nutshell. Between the ‘Chester the molester: years played > quality delivered’ crowd and the ‘has not played well as a back-up therefore oozes with starter potential under our newbie coaching staff’ crowd … we continue our blazing offseason. If one-legged Zad can compensate for the loss of Barr Vigil Pierce Richardson Woods etc … (we were 3-4 with Hunter last year so please dont include him or any reached for draft picks to legitimize the defense … yet) … we may just raise the bar to a marginal standard. If ‘hope is the thing with feathers’, we’re a plucked chicken. I don’t know what that means but it sounds negative so I’m going with it. I'm positively oozing with positivity. Z and Hunter will play 17 games each this season, our draft picks will contribute year one, the OL will be greatly improved and Kirk will have an MVP season. Championship all the way. We can agree on you oozing ... but that's about it. :) I can understand this position. You can be right if they suck, odds probably are with you, and historically it's been demonstrated often enough that's it's pretty easy to just say, "Im gonna have to eat some crow on this one" if youre wrong ;) WTF! The odds are with me? You make it sound like I want the team to go up in flames. You are confusing me with someone who values their football opinion more than the success of this team. I am neither a negative person nor have I been historically negative in here. Far from it ... I have tried hard to maintain a balanced view of both the good and bad. Yes, I have been struggling the last two-three years to find something to be optimistic about in here ... but even then I sometimes make fun of my own negativity ... or didn't you catch that vibe in my post above? - wow, I see you posted this almost an hour after I deleted it. Huh? edit: part of the whole idea was my recalling with some level of fascination the people that have posted "I have to eat crow here ...." the last 25 years or so on these sites. Also, I don't think you can really recall one time I've attacked you, can you? Dude ... half the time I'll start typing something, go have a meal, take a nap, maybe come back and finish typing it but not always .... that's why my posts are so disjointed. I had no idea you deleted your post.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/5/2022 12:39:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen With the first wave of dust settling, I think they did an ok/mediocre/average job addressing LB/Edge, as well as the secondary... on paper at least. The DL is another story, and really is a mystery, but there doesn't seem to be top tier talent anywhere on the DL even on paper. Big hopes for Phillips, but I think Tomlinson will be the D's version of Bradbury although it's not his fault. Occupy two blockers? Fantasy. Any decent solo blocker can handle him which frees up another OL. Currently, Watts is a DE project. It remains to be seen how often they will line up in the 3-4, which is a good CYA excuse for now. I pretty much agree on the defense ... although I think Tomlinson was pretty decent as a hard hat guy in New York – Bradburying him is harsh! If not a true NT, I can see him at least performing better ... depends on his role. Which is impossible to predict since our 'new' defense is a big amorphous blob orbiting the planet (we have no clue what it will look like until it splashes down in Sept). I will say, the new regime had much less than no money to work with ... so big change was not going to happen I guess. A lot less turn over and a lot more shell game for 2022. [that hasn't lessened my shock that the dude we hired as the 'young cutting edge offensive mind HC' did so little with a roster custom built to Model-T specifications]

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