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beo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 6:06:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom Arizona is 6-0 and we had them beat. WE LET'EM OFF THE DAMN HOOK!

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 6:18:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom Arizona is 6-0 and we had them beat. WE LET'EM OFF THE DAMN HOOK! [&:]

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 7:08:49 PM)
For the fourth time in six weeks, the Vikings needed Kirk Cousins to put them in position for a game-tying or game-winning field goal at the end of the fourth quarter. https://www.startribune.com/vikings-win-overtime-panthers-k-j-osborn-kirk-cousins-greg-joseph-mike-zimmer/600107505/

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 7:30:58 PM)
Ben Goessling @GoesslingStrib 1h Before today, Kirk Cousins had attempted 30 passes with the #Vikings tied or trailing by eight points or less in the final two minutes. No other NFL QB had attempted more than 15. He was 4/5 for 30 yards on the Vikings’ 2-min drive today. In OT, he was 5/5 for 50 yards and a TD. - can we get Brad to comment on this one?

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 8:54:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Ben Goessling @GoesslingStrib 1h Before today, Kirk Cousins had attempted 30 passes with the #Vikings tied or trailing by eight points or less in the final two minutes. No other NFL QB had attempted more than 15. He was 4/5 for 30 yards on the Vikings’ 2-min drive today. In OT, he was 5/5 for 50 yards and a TD. - can we get Brad to comment on this one? I'd love to see what he could do in a real NFL offense that doesn't always run predictably when tied or with the lead. Feels like we handcuff the offense more than any other team in the league by far!

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 9:12:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson Burns got Darrisaw once(Kirk 20 yard run) but he looks the part. Athletic and just engulfs DEs. Agreed... looks very solid. I think he has some work to do on footwork and assignments, however, he does NOT get overpowered. I'd actually say he may look like our best lineman out there. I know a lot of people are high on O'Neil... but he has trouble with anchor at times as well. Could be tough for Udoh going forward. Officials get a scouting report and just key in on those guys, even if another guy is just tackling guys. Time to get Davis in there

beo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 9:28:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson Burns got Darrisaw once(Kirk 20 yard run) but he looks the part. Athletic and just engulfs DEs. Agreed... looks very solid. I think he has some work to do on footwork and assignments, however, he does NOT get overpowered. I'd actually say he may look like our best lineman out there. I know a lot of people are high on O'Neil... but he has trouble with anchor at times as well. Could be tough for Udoh going forward. Officials get a scouting report and just key in on those guys, even if another guy is just tackling guys. Time to get Davis in there The upgrade of OL play when Darrisaw stepped in seemed big to me. I have no idea if Davis is an upgrade... but if he does manage to be as good as some of us imagined when he was drafted it could really solidify this line. How awesome would that be?

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 9:35:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson Burns got Darrisaw once(Kirk 20 yard run) but he looks the part. Athletic and just engulfs DEs. Agreed... looks very solid. I think he has some work to do on footwork and assignments, however, he does NOT get overpowered. I'd actually say he may look like our best lineman out there. I know a lot of people are high on O'Neil... but he has trouble with anchor at times as well. Could be tough for Udoh going forward. Officials get a scouting report and just key in on those guys, even if another guy is just tackling guys. Time to get Davis in there For Bradbury. Udoh too big and athletic to sit on bench.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 10:19:30 PM)
2 weeks in a row of the Vikings playing winning team football, or WTF.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 11:03:20 PM)
The team is winning DESPITE the ineptitude of the head coach to get a solid defensive performance, and play with guts and killer instinct with a lead. Giving up an 11 point lead, when getting possession of the ball with Just over 6 minutes left to play is inexcusable. Allowing a team to go 96 yards with essentially one time out + the Two minute warning, including completing a 4 th down throw for 40 + yards from the 4 yard line is beyond the pale of shitty coaching.. Zimmer is incompetent. Our schedule does not get any easier. The collapse is inevitable.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 11:10:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young The team is winning DESPITE the ineptitude of the head coach to get a solid defensive performance, and play with guts and killer instinct with a lead. Giving up an 11 point lead, when getting possession of the ball with Just over 6 minutes left to play is inexcusable. Allowing a team to go 96 yards with essentially one time out + the Two minute warning, including completing a 4 th down throw for 40 + yards from the 4 yard line is beyond the pale of shitty coaching.. Zimmer is incompetent. Our schedule does not get any easier. The collapse is inevitable. Regadless of the final drive, the defense was good tonight. Prior to the last drive, the defense was pretty stellar. But yes, they should never have been in that position.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/17/2021 11:15:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson Burns got Darrisaw once(Kirk 20 yard run) but he looks the part. Athletic and just engulfs DEs. Agreed... looks very solid. I think he has some work to do on footwork and assignments, however, he does NOT get overpowered. I'd actually say he may look like our best lineman out there. I know a lot of people are high on O'Neil... but he has trouble with anchor at times as well. Could be tough for Udoh going forward. Officials get a scouting report and just key in on those guys, even if another guy is just tackling guys. Time to get Davis in there For Bradbury. Udoh too big and athletic to sit on bench. Yes, he just needs a little more time to get more familiar with the guard position.

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 1:12:21 AM)
. . with our last three possessions in regulation zimmer played for a field goal in each, and refused to get us close to make it easier...when zimmer puts the clamps on the offense or defense we crumble - all of these 'safe' offensive plays to go nowhere and just kill the clock for a 50 yarder - zimmer is killing this team and its fans....

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 8:40:00 AM)
. . Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin Reactions on the way 4 of 6 games have come down to the wire for the Vikings and the emotional/physical toll it’s taking . Zimmer: “I’m worn out.” Cousins: “I’m spent.” Kendricks: “I’m exhausted with it.” Daniel Lee Young: "Zimmer is incompetent. My collapse is inevitable." Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin KJ Osborn just walked into the press conference with the game ball after scoring the game-winning TD in overtime. It’s the second time he’s gotten a game ball this season. Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin Crazy to think that after the way the first half went, the Vikings put up 571 yards of offense in their 34-28 OT win at Carolina, the third-highest single-game output in franchise history per Zimmer on what happened onPanthers' final drive of regulation: "We had them fourth-and-10 at the 4, and they went spread and hit one down the middle. We didn’t line up very good on that one particular play. I would anticipate my guys being a little bit smarter in that situation."

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 8:44:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson Burns got Darrisaw once(Kirk 20 yard run) but he looks the part. Athletic and just engulfs DEs. Agreed... looks very solid. I think he has some work to do on footwork and assignments, however, he does NOT get overpowered. I'd actually say he may look like our best lineman out there. I know a lot of people are high on O'Neil... but he has trouble with anchor at times as well. Could be tough for Udoh going forward. Officials get a scouting report and just key in on those guys, even if another guy is just tackling guys. Time to get Davis in there For Bradbury. Udoh too big and athletic to sit on bench. Yes, he just needs a little more time to get more familiar with the guard position. Hasn't Udoh been getting reps at both guard and tackle since we drafted him?

Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 9:01:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Ben Goessling @GoesslingStrib 1h Before today, Kirk Cousins had attempted 30 passes with the #Vikings tied or trailing by eight points or less in the final two minutes. No other NFL QB had attempted more than 15. He was 4/5 for 30 yards on the Vikings’ 2-min drive today. In OT, he was 5/5 for 50 yards and a TD. - can we get Brad to comment on this one? Cousins has run very efficient and effective two minute drills in every game this year. On a couple the kicker **ed it all up. Brad, who couldn't shut the ** up about how bad KC was in the 2 minute drill, has been remarkably silent about it since the season started.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 9:03:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom Arizona is 6-0 and we had them beat. Yeah....all the pundits are gushing about them. And they are just a few plays away from being 3-3 on the year. They haven't lost yet but they are no juggernaut.

Steve Lentz -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 9:20:14 AM)
Kirk threw for 373 yards and 3 touchdowns against the league's top-ranked pass defense. Offense looked good.

ronhextall -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 9:56:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz Kirk threw for 373 yards and 3 touchdowns against the league's top-ranked pass defense. Offense looked good. He really did. Zimmer better let him sling it around the next several games because they will not win with FG and grinding it out.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 10:25:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: beo quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson Burns got Darrisaw once(Kirk 20 yard run) but he looks the part. Athletic and just engulfs DEs. Agreed... looks very solid. I think he has some work to do on footwork and assignments, however, he does NOT get overpowered. I'd actually say he may look like our best lineman out there. I know a lot of people are high on O'Neil... but he has trouble with anchor at times as well. Could be tough for Udoh going forward. Officials get a scouting report and just key in on those guys, even if another guy is just tackling guys. Time to get Davis in there For Bradbury. Udoh too big and athletic to sit on bench. Yes, he just needs a little more time to get more familiar with the guard position. Hasn't Udoh been getting reps at both guard and tackle since we drafted him? Probably, but it's really been mostly right tackle

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 11:12:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Ben Goessling @GoesslingStrib 1h Before today, Kirk Cousins had attempted 30 passes with the #Vikings tied or trailing by eight points or less in the final two minutes. No other NFL QB had attempted more than 15. He was 4/5 for 30 yards on the Vikings’ 2-min drive today. In OT, he was 5/5 for 50 yards and a TD. - can we get Brad to comment on this one? Cousins has run very efficient and effective two minute drills in every game this year. On a couple the kicker **ed it all up. Brad, who couldn't shut the ** up about how bad KC was in the 2 minute drill, has been remarkably silent about it since the season started. I'll play devil's advocate. Overtime isn't the last two minutes of a half and how many points did we score while going four of five for 30 yards yesterday? Disclaimer - Kirk has been mostly excellent this season. Second disclaimer - in the past he was very poor in the final two minutes of halves.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 11:14:53 AM)
I like that the Vikings are just going for FGs, not attempting tries at TDs on those situations, which sets it up for late season, and in the playoffs, where teams will be surprised that the Vikings are going for the endzone in those same scenarios.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 11:24:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Ben Goessling @GoesslingStrib 1h Before today, Kirk Cousins had attempted 30 passes with the #Vikings tied or trailing by eight points or less in the final two minutes. No other NFL QB had attempted more than 15. He was 4/5 for 30 yards on the Vikings’ 2-min drive today. In OT, he was 5/5 for 50 yards and a TD. - can we get Brad to comment on this one? Cousins has run very efficient and effective two minute drills in every game this year. On a couple the kicker **ed it all up. Brad, who couldn't shut the ** up about how bad KC was in the 2 minute drill, has been remarkably silent about it since the season started. Recapping Cousins OT and the the last two and even one minute or less mark performances. Game winning drive against the undefeated AZ Cards, blown by short missed FG. Game winning drive in regulation against Carolina blown by missed medium FG, What would have almost certainly been a game winning drive against Cinci stopped by phantom fumble call, game tying drive against Cinci in regulation, game winning drive against the Lions with 37 seconds remaining. Game winning drive in OT against the Panthers. This is unprecedented clutch performance in late game situations over a 6 game span in NFL history. Did I forget one?

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 11:27:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty I like that the Vikings are just going for FGs, not attempting tries at TDs on those situations, which sets it up for late season, and in the playoffs, where teams will be surprised that the Vikings are going for the endzone in those same scenarios. Seriously?

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/18/2021 11:29:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Ben Goessling @GoesslingStrib 1h Before today, Kirk Cousins had attempted 30 passes with the #Vikings tied or trailing by eight points or less in the final two minutes. No other NFL QB had attempted more than 15. He was 4/5 for 30 yards on the Vikings’ 2-min drive today. In OT, he was 5/5 for 50 yards and a TD. - can we get Brad to comment on this one? Cousins has run very efficient and effective two minute drills in every game this year. On a couple the kicker **ed it all up. Brad, who couldn't shut the ** up about how bad KC was in the 2 minute drill, has been remarkably silent about it since the season started. Recapping Cousins OT and the the last two and even one minute or less mark performances. Game winning drive against the undefeated AZ Cards, blown by short missed FG. Game winning drive in regulation against Carolina blown by missed medium FG, What would have almost certainly been a game winning drive against Cinci stopped by phantom fumble call, game tying drive against Cinci in regulation, game winning drive against the Lions with 37 seconds remaining. Game winning drive in OT against the Panthers. This is unprecedented clutch performance in late game situations over a 6 game span in NFL history. Did I forget one? Well the Browns game sure was a stinker. After the first drive the entire team looked lost.

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