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marty -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:05:47 PM)

I started having reservations about Krazy when Mannion was brought back.

I think KOC is going to be a great HC, not sure about the GM.




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:05:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

Way too much hand wringing going on. The Vikings are going to get at least 7 of the top 100 players and many draft experts have gushed about the solid first 100 guys in this draft. The #66 pick is just two picks out of the second round, this was not a bad trade, just not flashy and obviously the way you guys wanted it to go.

Dana I respect you, but gaining 12 spots in the second and a 3rd round pick isn't appropriate compensation for moving back 20 spots in the first. Jordan Davis seems like a sure fire all pro. Giving him up for that is not worth it.




Chris Olson -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:05:59 PM)

Titans give up AJ Brown then take Burks

weird




Mark Anderson -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:06:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

I don’t mind the trade back to get a third and a better 2nd. I’ll get pissy if we trade back 4ths and 5ths for 6ths and 7ths

David we gave up 20 spots in the first round to move up 12 in the second. A third round pick isn't in the realm of proper compensation for that.

Trade chart says it is a slight edge to us. In no shape or reality is it a Hershel walker trade. They are the Lions.

Like I said. yea Princeton.




Karl Juhnke -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:06:33 PM)

Meanwhile Detroit had a great day. Got a heck of a player at 2. And good value from us.




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:07:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

You know what comes out perfect.

DET gets 12

We get 32 and 34 and swap 3rd rounders.


Do think that’s what it was SUPPOSED to be?

That might make sense. I don't even like giving up our third in that deal.




Phil Riewer -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:08:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Meanwhile Detroit had a great day. Got a heck of a player at 2. And good value from us.


I would be fine with Ojabo. Top 10 player before he was hurt. Will prob play before Williams. Faster recovery from Achilles.




Tom Sykes -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:08:38 PM)

Listen all hope WR Watson is gone before the pack picks




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:09:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

If we had traded our first and third instead of second ... maybe

Oh no ... I just felt cold icy fingers grab my spine ...

What if our whole draft strategy designed to get peewee Linderbomb?

Instead of Jameson, Davis, Hamilton, etc etc

I would have been thrilled with any of those three. We were handed them on a silver platter.




TJSweens -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:09:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

Way too much hand wringing going on. The Vikings are going to get at least 7 of the top 100 players and many draft experts have gushed about the solid first 100 guys in this draft. The #66 pick is just two picks out of the second round, this was not a bad trade, just not flashy and obviously the way you guys wanted it to go.



?? Where are you getting that??

Yeah. We have no 4th rounders.

By my math we have 4 picks in the top 100.




Troy Newell -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:10:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

Way too much hand wringing going on. The Vikings are going to get at least 7 of the top 100 players and many draft experts have gushed about the solid first 100 guys in this draft. The #66 pick is just two picks out of the second round, this was not a bad trade, just not flashy and obviously the way you guys wanted it to go.


Thank God there is still someone around here who knows football. If this new guy drafts four starters he is a genius. If he drafts flops he is not. But if you think you know the results of this trade at this moment you give yourself way too much credit.




David F. -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:11:24 PM)

Everyone keep taking WRs ahead of the pack! Hahahahahahahahahahaha!




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:11:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

Way too much hand wringing going on. The Vikings are going to get at least 7 of the top 100 players and many draft experts have gushed about the solid first 100 guys in this draft. The #66 pick is just two picks out of the second round, this was not a bad trade, just not flashy and obviously the way you guys wanted it to go.



?? Where are you getting that??

Yeah. We have no 4th rounders.

By my math we have 4 picks in the top 100.

Same as my math.




Dana Turner -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:11:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

Way too much hand wringing going on. The Vikings are going to get at least 7 of the top 100 players and many draft experts have gushed about the solid first 100 guys in this draft. The #66 pick is just two picks out of the second round, this was not a bad trade, just not flashy and obviously the way you guys wanted it to go.



?? Where are you getting that??



Sorry Bill, that would be six guys with our 4 third rounders. That is a lot of ammo to move up later if we see someone who slipped out of the first. I just don't see this as the end of the world, sure, I really liked Hamilton, but I am sure we will get solid players if we stick and pick from here on out.




Phil Riewer -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:11:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

Way too much hand wringing going on. The Vikings are going to get at least 7 of the top 100 players and many draft experts have gushed about the solid first 100 guys in this draft. The #66 pick is just two picks out of the second round, this was not a bad trade, just not flashy and obviously the way you guys wanted it to go.



?? Where are you getting that??

Yeah. We have no 4th rounders.

By my math we have 4 picks in the top 100.

Maybe Dana thinks we will trade back again? 94-100 picks all in a row. [&:]




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:12:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

Way too much hand wringing going on. The Vikings are going to get at least 7 of the top 100 players and many draft experts have gushed about the solid first 100 guys in this draft. The #66 pick is just two picks out of the second round, this was not a bad trade, just not flashy and obviously the way you guys wanted it to go.



?? Where are you getting that??



Sorry Bill, that would be six guys with our 4 third rounders. That is a lot of ammo to move up later if we see someone who slipped out of the first. I just don't see this as the end of the world, sure, I really liked Hamilton, but I am sure we will get solid players if we stick and pick from here on out.

Don't we just have 2 3rd rounders?




Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:12:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

Way too much hand wringing going on. The Vikings are going to get at least 7 of the top 100 players and many draft experts have gushed about the solid first 100 guys in this draft. The #66 pick is just two picks out of the second round, this was not a bad trade, just not flashy and obviously the way you guys wanted it to go.



?? Where are you getting that??

Yeah. We have no 4th rounders.


The top 100 runs out in the 3rd, what with comp picks. 7 is way off. Right now it's 4 in the top 100.

Maybe he was combining the 2022 and 2023 drafts [8|]




Phil Riewer -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:13:13 PM)

Kwesi is at least not getting 7 th rounders




Karl Juhnke -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:14:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Another chart, #12 = 1200 with the return at 1430.

Edit - we gave up 440 more which would be 1640 if we gave up the 2nd.

Something doesn't sound right.


Can't say I'm a fan of the trade, but... weirdly, although it's a loss on Rich Hill's Chart, it's a win on PFF's and F-S.

Ignore Jimmy Johnson's, which everyone knows is nuts.

https://twitter.com/PFF_Brad/status/1519851311642157056


Maybe in their mock drafts, the Vikes liked the selection of players that showed up in the 30's. Like some players in positions of need often fell. So they felt they could squeeze out more value.


This is the part people don’t account for. All the draft trade tools are just that. Tools. They are not the final word. They provide a baseline that you then need to apply to your draft board and come with some sort of integrated decision.




Phil Riewer -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:14:48 PM)

Eagles trading for AJ Brown
Cards trading for Hollywood Brown




Phil Riewer -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:15:05 PM)

WR market is crazy

AJ Brown 4/100 extension by Eagles




David F. -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:16:15 PM)

Titans got a 1st and a 3rd for Aj brown.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:16:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

Way too much hand wringing going on. The Vikings are going to get at least 7 of the top 100 players and many draft experts have gushed about the solid first 100 guys in this draft. The #66 pick is just two picks out of the second round, this was not a bad trade, just not flashy and obviously the way you guys wanted it to go.



?? Where are you getting that??



Sorry Bill, that would be six guys with our 4 third rounders. That is a lot of ammo to move up later if we see someone who slipped out of the first. I just don't see this as the end of the world, sure, I really liked Hamilton, but I am sure we will get solid players if we stick and pick from here on out.


We don't have 4 third rounders.




Chris Olson -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:17:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

If we had traded our first and third instead of second ... maybe

Oh no ... I just felt cold icy fingers grab my spine ...

What if our whole draft strategy designed to get peewee Linderbomb?

Instead of Jameson, Davis, Hamilton, etc etc

I would have been thrilled with any of those three. We were handed them on a silver platter.

at least they saved you from the McDuffie pick
[;)]




David Levine -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/28/2022 9:17:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

Way too much hand wringing going on. The Vikings are going to get at least 7 of the top 100 players and many draft experts have gushed about the solid first 100 guys in this draft. The #66 pick is just two picks out of the second round, this was not a bad trade, just not flashy and obviously the way you guys wanted it to go.



?? Where are you getting that??



Sorry Bill, that would be six guys with our 4 third rounders. That is a lot of ammo to move up later if we see someone who slipped out of the first. I just don't see this as the end of the world, sure, I really liked Hamilton, but I am sure we will get solid players if we stick and pick from here on out.


We don't have 4 third rounders.


Not yet!!




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