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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Amazingly brisk game. Thanks to pitch clock and good pitching.

Too fast for me

Clock is ok, maybe a touch longer.

Hurry up and be done in 2 1/2 hours is not going to draw more people to games.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Amazingly brisk game. Thanks to pitch clock and good pitching.

Too fast for me

Clock is ok, maybe a touch longer.

Hurry up and be done in 2 1/2 hours is not going to draw more people to games.

Hate it!

Now that you have just two hours of entertainment at a game, they have raised the prices of food to make up for the loss of revenue because of shorter games.

More money out of your pocket for less entertainment. And somehow they think this is going to equate to better fan support? Good luck with that.

It's bad enough that they have thrown out 120+ years of history with ridiculous rule changes. As a fan the original game of baseball, I'm offended and turned off by the league leadership.

Starting with a guy at second base in extra innings? It's just silly.

Not being able to align your defense how you want to? Beyond silly.

Last season the average attendance in baseball was around 26,500 per-game. 10 years earlier it was 30,800.

Last weekend in Kansas City, the second game of the series was on a Saturday. It was the first Saturday game of the season in Kansas City. 16,633 in attendance. Sunday's game, played in 72-degree weather.....14,589 in attendance. Baseball purists are not going to watch this garbage.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Amazingly brisk game. Thanks to pitch clock and good pitching.

Too fast for me

Clock is ok, maybe a touch longer.

Hurry up and be done in 2 1/2 hours is not going to draw more people to games.

Hate it!

Now that you have just two hours of entertainment at a game, they have raised the prices of food to make up for the loss of revenue because of shorter games.

More money out of your pocket for less entertainment. And somehow they think this is going to equate to better fan support? Good luck with that.

It's bad enough that they have thrown out 120+ years of history with ridiculous rule changes. As a fan the original game of baseball, I'm offended and turned off by the league leadership.

Starting with a guy at second base in extra innings? It's just silly.

Not being able to align your defense how you want to? Beyond silly.

Last season the average attendance in baseball was around 26,500 per-game. 10 years earlier it was 30,800.

Last weekend in Kansas City, the second game of the series was on a Saturday. It was the first Saturday game of the season in Kansas City. 16,633 in attendance. Sunday's game, played in 72-degree weather.....14,589 in attendance. Baseball purists are not going to watch this garbage.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Amazingly brisk game. Thanks to pitch clock and good pitching.

Too fast for me

Clock is ok, maybe a touch longer.

Hurry up and be done in 2 1/2 hours is not going to draw more people to games.

Hate it!

Now that you have just two hours of entertainment at a game, they have raised the prices of food to make up for the loss of revenue because of shorter games.

More money out of your pocket for less entertainment. And somehow they think this is going to equate to better fan support? Good luck with that.

It's bad enough that they have thrown out 120+ years of history with ridiculous rule changes. As a fan the original game of baseball, I'm offended and turned off by the league leadership.

Starting with a guy at second base in extra innings? It's just silly.

Not being able to align your defense how you want to? Beyond silly.

Last season the average attendance in baseball was around 26,500 per-game. 10 years earlier it was 30,800.

Last weekend in Kansas City, the second game of the series was on a Saturday. It was the first Saturday game of the season in Kansas City. 16,633 in attendance. Sunday's game, played in 72-degree weather.....14,589 in attendance. Baseball purists are not going to watch this garbage.

Problems I see:
1) Tanking teams like "KC Royals" is the problem---you won't see that in a St. Louis game. The baseball purists in St. Louis don't mind 36,000 but attendance is always worse before school is out (also). Twins attendance sank last year after they couldn't win a game in September.
2) Cold weather teams should start on the road for the majority of their first 2 weeks.
3) Prices on beer and food were high before the changes.
4) Covid affected attendance also.
5) Everyone hates the runner at 2nd but it all but eliminates the 15-22 inning games.

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Why would I want to make a 4 hour round trip drive to watch 2 hours of baseball? Sure, as an outlier or unusual circumstance and one-time novelty, that's cool. I remember being at game at the Metrodome with Buehrle vs Silva and it was like a hour and 50 minutes. It was memorable. I don't want every game to be like that. It's not worth my time or effort driving there for a short game. In a way it's also not worth my time or effort to turn it on the radio or watch it on TV either. I'm here to invest my time and interest into a game. There's not even time to comprehend what's going on. There's no feel. Tempo does not equal feel. It becomes monotony in fast-motion, and that doesn't work for me as a baseball fan.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Amazingly brisk game. Thanks to pitch clock and good pitching.

Too fast for me

Clock is ok, maybe a touch longer.

Hurry up and be done in 2 1/2 hours is not going to draw more people to games.

Hate it!

Now that you have just two hours of entertainment at a game, they have raised the prices of food to make up for the loss of revenue because of shorter games.

More money out of your pocket for less entertainment. And somehow they think this is going to equate to better fan support? Good luck with that.

It's bad enough that they have thrown out 120+ years of history with ridiculous rule changes. As a fan the original game of baseball, I'm offended and turned off by the league leadership.

Starting with a guy at second base in extra innings? It's just silly.

Not being able to align your defense how you want to? Beyond silly.

Last season the average attendance in baseball was around 26,500 per-game. 10 years earlier it was 30,800.

Last weekend in Kansas City, the second game of the series was on a Saturday. It was the first Saturday game of the season in Kansas City. 16,633 in attendance. Sunday's game, played in 72-degree weather.....14,589 in attendance. Baseball purists are not going to watch this garbage.

Attendance is a MAJOR problem for MLB.

Of all the major sports, baseball is, by far, the most financially reliant on putting butts in the seats.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Lopez was cruising. Struck out the side in the 7th, so our genius manager goes to the pen and watches them give up 4 runs in 1 inning...

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ORIGINAL: MDK

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Lopez was cruising. Struck out the side in the 7th, so our genius manager goes to the pen and watches them give up 4 runs in 1 inning...

He had thrown 88 pitches.
His arm was barely attached to his shoulder.
He had faced the top 5 hitters 3.
.THREE times.
Rocco's analytics cookbook says replace the starter

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

The idea is trying to figure out how to raise the popularity of the game.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: MDK

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Lopez was cruising. Struck out the side in the 7th, so our genius manager goes to the pen and watches them give up 4 runs in 1 inning...

He had thrown 88 pitches.
His arm was barely attached to his shoulder.
He had faced the top 5 hitters 3.
.THREE times.
Rocco's analytics cookbook says replace the starter

Rockhead is so bad at managing pitchers, I actually miss Gardy.

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How long BSN is in business remains to be seen.

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: MDK

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Lopez was cruising. Struck out the side in the 7th, so our genius manager goes to the pen and watches them give up 4 runs in 1 inning...

He had thrown 88 pitches.
His arm was barely attached to his shoulder.
He had faced the top 5 hitters 3.
.THREE times.
Rocco's analytics cookbook says replace the starter

Rockhead is so bad at managing pitchers, I actually miss Gardy.

Can't
Fix
Stupid

Or the sheep that rallied to support him. It was another idiot manager move.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Amazingly brisk game. Thanks to pitch clock and good pitching.

Too fast for me

Clock is ok, maybe a touch longer.

Hurry up and be done in 2 1/2 hours is not going to draw more people to games.

Hate it!

Now that you have just two hours of entertainment at a game, they have raised the prices of food to make up for the loss of revenue because of shorter games.

More money out of your pocket for less entertainment. And somehow they think this is going to equate to better fan support? Good luck with that.

It's bad enough that they have thrown out 120+ years of history with ridiculous rule changes. As a fan the original game of baseball, I'm offended and turned off by the league leadership.

Starting with a guy at second base in extra innings? It's just silly.

Not being able to align your defense how you want to? Beyond silly.

Last season the average attendance in baseball was around 26,500 per-game. 10 years earlier it was 30,800.

Last weekend in Kansas City, the second game of the series was on a Saturday. It was the first Saturday game of the season in Kansas City. 16,633 in attendance. Sunday's game, played in 72-degree weather.....14,589 in attendance. Baseball purists are not going to watch this garbage.

Problems I see:
1) Tanking teams like "KC Royals" is the problem---you won't see that in a St. Louis game. The baseball purists in St. Louis don't mind 36,000 but attendance is always worse before school is out (also). Twins attendance sank last year after they couldn't win a game in September.
2) Cold weather teams should start on the road for the majority of their first 2 weeks.
3) Prices on beer and food were high before the changes.
4) Covid affected attendance also.
5) Everyone hates the runner at 2nd but it all but eliminates the 15-22 inning games.

another problem is the uneven field that is in play.

New York Yankees, Mets, Dodgers can spend spend spend. Pittsburgh, Cincinnati etc etc can't hope to keep up and still make a profit. When you start every year with the assumption that all or most of the Yankees, Mets, and Dodgers are automatically in the playoffs...you have a problem.

You will inheriantly start losing fans int he smaller market as they start to feel like there is NO hope for their team to reach the promised land.

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Why would I want to make a 4 hour round trip drive to watch 2 hours of baseball? Sure, as an outlier or unusual circumstance and one-time novelty, that's cool. I remember being at game at the Metrodome with Buehrle vs Silva and it was like a hour and 50 minutes. It was memorable. I don't want every game to be like that. It's not worth my time or effort driving there for a short game. In a way it's also not worth my time or effort to turn it on the radio or watch it on TV either. I'm here to invest my time and interest into a game. There's not even time to comprehend what's going on. There's no feel. Tempo does not equal feel. It becomes monotony in fast-motion, and that doesn't work for me as a baseball fan.

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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How long BSN is in business remains to be seen.

Missed a payment to the Twins

Streaming I'm told is sporadic

Another excellent selling point.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Amazingly brisk game. Thanks to pitch clock and good pitching.

Too fast for me

Clock is ok, maybe a touch longer.

Hurry up and be done in 2 1/2 hours is not going to draw more people to games.

Hate it!

Now that you have just two hours of entertainment at a game, they have raised the prices of food to make up for the loss of revenue because of shorter games.

More money out of your pocket for less entertainment. And somehow they think this is going to equate to better fan support? Good luck with that.

It's bad enough that they have thrown out 120+ years of history with ridiculous rule changes. As a fan the original game of baseball, I'm offended and turned off by the league leadership.

Starting with a guy at second base in extra innings? It's just silly.

Not being able to align your defense how you want to? Beyond silly.

Last season the average attendance in baseball was around 26,500 per-game. 10 years earlier it was 30,800.

Last weekend in Kansas City, the second game of the series was on a Saturday. It was the first Saturday game of the season in Kansas City. 16,633 in attendance. Sunday's game, played in 72-degree weather.....14,589 in attendance. Baseball purists are not going to watch this garbage.

Problems I see:
1) Tanking teams like "KC Royals" is the problem---you won't see that in a St. Louis game. The baseball purists in St. Louis don't mind 36,000 but attendance is always worse before school is out (also). Twins attendance sank last year after they couldn't win a game in September.
2) Cold weather teams should start on the road for the majority of their first 2 weeks.
3) Prices on beer and food were high before the changes.
4) Covid affected attendance also.
5) Everyone hates the runner at 2nd but it all but eliminates the 15-22 inning games.

another problem is the uneven field that is in play.

New York Yankees, Mets, Dodgers can spend spend spend. Pittsburgh, Cincinnati etc etc can't hope to keep up and still make a profit. When you start every year with the assumption that all or most of the Yankees, Mets, and Dodgers are automatically in the playoffs...you have a problem.

You will inheriantly start losing fans int he smaller market as they start to feel like there is NO hope for their team to reach the promised land.

BING!

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

I like the pitch clock. I’ll take 2.5 hour games. Every game I’ve been to in recent history starts to feel like a marathon after 3 hours. And they all did go over 3 hours. I pay to watch baseball, not a batter adjusting his gloves after every pitch or a pitcher pacing around rubbing down baseballs and making sure his jersey and jewelry are on straight. Just throw the ball.