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Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/18/2024 1:02:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine I'm starting to believe Cousins could end up in Atlanta. If Belichick takes the job it makes a ton of sense. They have a solid defense, some nice weapons on offense and tons of cap space. They don't have a legit QB. Belichick will be 72 when next season starts. He's not going to want a rookie QB. He's going to want to win now. Cousins' wife is from Atlanta and that's where her family is. It sounds like they may already have an offseason house there. Kirk is about two things: money and feeling comfortable. Atlanta could give him both. Totally agree. IMO Atlanta is a prime candidate to draft Penix at #8. On the surface at least it will be good news if Belichick signs with them. Any number of teams, including Minnesota, might want to trade up to that pick, and I can see Belichick being fine with a trade down. Good meaty posts. I had no idea about those possibilities. But... can you imagine the outcome of a trade between Collaborative Kwesi and Belichick? The only thing Kwesi would say no to is a request for his loafers, not that BB has any use for them. https://images.app.goo.gl/VVXH27ukoijJBCrY6

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/18/2024 1:07:49 PM)
You would not believe all the links that came up searching for that on Google.. L O L The porn industry is alive and doing very well, evidently..

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/18/2024 1:28:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine I'm starting to believe Cousins could end up in Atlanta. If Belichick takes the job it makes a ton of sense. They have a solid defense, some nice weapons on offense and tons of cap space. They don't have a legit QB. Belichick will be 72 when next season starts. He's not going to want a rookie QB. He's going to want to win now. Cousins' wife is from Atlanta and that's where her family is. It sounds like they may already have an offseason house there. Kirk is about two things: money and feeling comfortable. Atlanta could give him both. Totally agree. IMO Atlanta is a prime candidate to draft Penix at #8. On the surface at least it will be good news if Belichick signs with them. Any number of teams, including Minnesota, might want to trade up to that pick, and I can see Belichick being fine with a trade down. Good meaty posts. I had no idea about those possibilities. But... can you imagine the outcome of a trade between Collaborative Kwesi and Belichick? The only thing Kwesi would say no to is a request for his loafers, not that BB has any use for them. LOL. For his dog maybe. I can just see BBs expression when Kwesi starts riffing on possible trade equations and calculations.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/18/2024 1:54:59 PM)
It will be interesting to see how Belichick does working for a GM … how that relationship goes. Building a culture also.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/18/2024 5:56:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes It will be interesting to see how Belichick does working for a GM … how that relationship goes. Building a culture also. Falcons owner Arthur Blank and CEO Rich McKay are leading the coach search. Blank said recently general manager Terry Fontenot would continue to be in charge of personnel decisions while the new coach and Fontenot would report to McKay. So Belichick HC < Fontenot GM < McKay CEO < Belichick GO (Great Overseer) IOW, Belichick is all three pieces of the Triangle of Authority. He IS the trilateral commission.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/18/2024 7:02:47 PM)
I remember looking at Hall's highlights tape after we drafted him. In the comments section, someone claimed the Vikings should have instead drafted the WR that was making Hall look good: Puka Nakua. Puka had a nice season, and a nice playoff game last week for the Rams.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/18/2024 7:12:31 PM)
Ben Goessling@BenGoessling Jan 14 Top-100 picks in 2024 draft: Packers: 5 Lions: 4 Bears: 3 (including Nos. 1 and 9 overall) Vikings: 2 Effective cap space, per OTC: Lions: $46M Bears: $36.4M Vikings: $21.5M Packers: -$3.5M ------------------- Our starters today (proven backups in parenthesis) [wasn't sure where to stick Metellus] QB Nick Mullens RB Ty Chandler (Alexander Mattison) FB C.J. Ham WR1 Justin Jefferson WR2 Jordan Addison LOT Christian Darrisaw LOG Henry Byrd C Garrett Bradbury ROG Ed Ingram ROT Brian O'Neill TE TJ Hockensen (Josh Oliver) NT Harrison Phillips DE Jaquelin Roy DT Sheldon Day LOLB Andre Carter II LILB Ivan Pace Jr. RILB Brian Asamoah II ROLB Pat Jones II LCB Byron Murphy Jr. (Josh Metellus) RCB Mekhi Blackmon SS Harrison Smith FS Camryn Bynum

eagleflorida -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 8:52:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: eagleflorida quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes I may be wrong but I don’t see signing any older expensive QB, not just Cousins, as a solid option for a team trying to build and strengthen itself across the board with younger players. With not a lot of resources. He’s just a sentimental choice at this point. Speaking of which, how about this misleading headline from Daily Norseman: Russell Wilson potentially "intrigued" by Vikings. The so-called article (by Christopher Gates) goes on to repeat what was written somewhere on ESPN then used in the headline: Don’t be surprised if Wilson, should he become a free agent, is intrigued by Minnesota... Christopher Gates used to be a Vikestalk "contributor" years ago. He was posting 24 /7 primarily while serving in the USAF as a weather-guesser instructor of sorts. He was IMO arrogant & obnoxious most of the time. Like some of us I guess[:D] He apparently went full time w/ Dailey Norseman as columnist. I don't follow him & I don't miss him. Just remembered his poster name was Gonz. Yeah, I included his name figuring it would spur some recognition. How did you know he was posting while in the Air Force? He mentioned on several occasions that he was on active duty Air Force as a weather guesser instructor I believe somewhere on the west coast. One time when questioned how he could spend such an inordinate amount of time posting on Vikestalk he claimed his instructor duties gave him plenty of leeway [&o]. I suspect he used programmed instruction & he was likely only a monitor with nothing better to do. In addition to his demanding military duties [&:] he wrote columns for Dailey Norseman regularly. A really abrasive SOB as Dan mentioned.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 9:21:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: eagleflorida quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: eagleflorida quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes I may be wrong but I don’t see signing any older expensive QB, not just Cousins, as a solid option for a team trying to build and strengthen itself across the board with younger players. With not a lot of resources. He’s just a sentimental choice at this point. Speaking of which, how about this misleading headline from Daily Norseman: Russell Wilson potentially "intrigued" by Vikings. The so-called article (by Christopher Gates) goes on to repeat what was written somewhere on ESPN then used in the headline: Don’t be surprised if Wilson, should he become a free agent, is intrigued by Minnesota... Christopher Gates used to be a Vikestalk "contributor" years ago. He was posting 24 /7 primarily while serving in the USAF as a weather-guesser instructor of sorts. He was IMO arrogant & obnoxious most of the time. Like some of us I guess[:D] He apparently went full time w/ Dailey Norseman as columnist. I don't follow him & I don't miss him. Just remembered his poster name was Gonz. Yeah, I included his name figuring it would spur some recognition. How did you know he was posting while in the Air Force? He mentioned on several occasions that he was on active duty Air Force as a weather guesser instructor I believe somewhere on the west coast. One time when questioned how he could spend such an inordinate amount of time posting on Vikestalk he claimed his instructor duties gave him plenty of leeway [&o]. I suspect he used programmed instruction & he was likely only a monitor with nothing better to do. In addition to his demanding military duties [&:] he wrote columns for Dailey Norseman regularly. A really abrasive SOB as Dan mentioned. Ahhh! Yes, Gates was recognizable but I couldn't recall his TV handle. Thanks for providing the missing link

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 11:47:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes Ben Goessling@BenGoessling Jan 14 Top-100 picks in 2024 draft: Packers: 5 Lions: 4 Bears: 3 (including Nos. 1 and 9 overall) Vikings: 2 Effective cap space, per OTC: Lions: $46M Bears: $36.4M Vikings: $21.5M Packers: -$3.5M ------------------- Our starters today (proven backups in parenthesis) [wasn't sure where to stick Metellus] QB Nick Mullens RB Ty Chandler (Alexander Mattison) FB C.J. Ham WR1 Justin Jefferson WR2 Jordan Addison LOT Christian Darrisaw LOG Henry Byrd C Garrett Bradbury ROG Ed Ingram ROT Brian O'Neill TE TJ Hockensen (Josh Oliver) NT Harrison Phillips DE Jaquelin Roy DT Sheldon Day LOLB Andre Carter II LILB Ivan Pace Jr. RILB Brian Asamoah II ROLB Pat Jones II LCB Byron Murphy Jr. (Josh Metellus) RCB Mekhi Blackmon SS Harrison Smith FS Camryn Bynum Kwesi is making a bold statement with a total rebuild of OL backups (with the exception of someone named Adeniji). Good call on moving Byrd from the PS to starting LG. He and a fellow practice squad force at T named Coy Cronk are on track to make waves. Big waves. The DL looks solid as well. Plus when Lowry and Lynch return, watch out. So, the OL and DL are basically set and ready to rumble. 11-6 with a playoff bye easily.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 11:58:06 AM)
The really great news is we currently have $26-29 million in cap to work with in 2024. Luxury money. We're kind of a big deal. Edit - as mentioned about, $21 million in effective cap space. Still a big deal in league circles. Then there are all those draft picks that are going to get playing time, which shows Kwesi's drafts were solid! Kwesi is playing 3-D chess while the league flounders at checkers.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 12:29:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen The really great news is we currently have $26-29 million in cap to work with in 2024. Luxury money. We're kind of a big deal. Edit - as mentioned about, $21 million in effective cap space. Still a big deal in league circles. Then there are all those draft picks that are going to get playing time, which shows Kwesi's drafts were solid! Kwesi is playing 3-D chess while the league flounders at checkers. Compared to last year, $21 M has to be burning a hole through his slim fit pockets. (*Kwesi Kalculus, that's 21M = 21M+74.3M in dead money pushed out) It's a lot more than you're giving him credit for.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 12:34:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes Ben Goessling@BenGoessling Jan 14 Top-100 picks in 2024 draft: Packers: 5 Lions: 4 Bears: 3 (including Nos. 1 and 9 overall) Vikings: 2 Effective cap space, per OTC: Lions: $46M Bears: $36.4M Vikings: $21.5M Packers: -$3.5M ------------------- Our starters today (proven backups in parenthesis) [wasn't sure where to stick Metellus] QB Nick Mullens RB Ty Chandler (Alexander Mattison) FB C.J. Ham WR1 Justin Jefferson WR2 Jordan Addison LOT Christian Darrisaw LOG Henry Byrd C Garrett Bradbury ROG Ed Ingram ROT Brian O'Neill TE TJ Hockensen (Josh Oliver) NT Harrison Phillips DE Jaquelin Roy DT Sheldon Day LOLB Andre Carter II LILB Ivan Pace Jr. RILB Brian Asamoah II ROLB Pat Jones II LCB Byron Murphy Jr. (Josh Metellus) RCB Mekhi Blackmon SS Harrison Smith FS Camryn Bynum Kwesi is making a bold statement with a total rebuild of OL backups (with the exception of someone named Adeniji). Good call on moving Byrd from the PS to starting LG. He and a fellow practice squad force at T named Coy Cronk are on track to make waves. Big waves. The DL looks solid as well. Plus when Lowry and Lynch return, watch out. So, the OL and DL are basically set and ready to rumble. 11-6 with a playoff bye easily. Yes OL and DL are ready to rumble and Kwesi is about to paint a Bob Ross masterpiece. I have faith.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 12:37:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty I remember looking at Hall's highlights tape after we drafted him. In the comments section, someone claimed the Vikings should have instead drafted the WR that was making Hall look good: Puka Nakua. Puka had a nice season, and a nice playoff game last week for the Rams. As desperate as we are for QB ... Nakua, JJ and Addison would have been game over. Another possible almost fantasy annihilated.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 12:43:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty I remember looking at Hall's highlights tape after we drafted him. In the comments section, someone claimed the Vikings should have instead drafted the WR that was making Hall look good: Puka Nakua. Puka had a nice season, and a nice playoff game last week for the Rams. A lot better than "nice". Dude broke both the rookie receptions and receiving yards records. 105 Receptions, 1486 Yards, 6 TDs. And then went 9/181/1 in his only Playoff game. Not bad for the last pick of the 5th Round.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 12:50:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes Ben Goessling@BenGoessling Jan 14 Top-100 picks in 2024 draft: Packers: 5 Lions: 4 Bears: 3 (including Nos. 1 and 9 overall) Vikings: 2 Effective cap space, per OTC: Lions: $46M Bears: $36.4M Vikings: $21.5M Packers: -$3.5M ------------------- Our starters today (proven backups in parenthesis) [wasn't sure where to stick Metellus] QB Nick Mullens RB Ty Chandler (Alexander Mattison) FB C.J. Ham WR1 Justin Jefferson WR2 Jordan Addison LOT Christian Darrisaw LOG Henry Byrd C Garrett Bradbury ROG Ed Ingram ROT Brian O'Neill TE TJ Hockensen (Josh Oliver) NT Harrison Phillips DE Jaquelin Roy DT Sheldon Day LOLB Andre Carter II LILB Ivan Pace Jr. RILB Brian Asamoah II ROLB Pat Jones II LCB Byron Murphy Jr. (Josh Metellus) RCB Mekhi Blackmon SS Harrison Smith FS Camryn Bynum Kwesi is making a bold statement with a total rebuild of OL backups (with the exception of someone named Adeniji). Good call on moving Byrd from the PS to starting LG. He and a fellow practice squad force at T named Coy Cronk are on track to make waves. Big waves. The DL looks solid as well. Plus when Lowry and Lynch return, watch out. So, the OL and DL are basically set and ready to rumble. 11-6 with a playoff bye easily. Yes OL and DL are ready to rumble and Kwesi is about to paint a Bob Ross masterpiece. I have faith. Oh hell yes. Same here. Good hearted/unwavering faith.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 12:58:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen The really great news is we currently have $26-29 million in cap to work with in 2024. Luxury money. We're kind of a big deal. Edit - as mentioned about, $21 million in effective cap space. Still a big deal in league circles. Then there are all those draft picks that are going to get playing time, which shows Kwesi's drafts were solid! Kwesi is playing 3-D chess while the league flounders at checkers. Compared to last year, $21 M has to be burning a hole through his slim fit pockets. (*Kwesi Kalculus, that's 21M = 21M+74.3M in dead money pushed out) It's a lot more than you're giving him credit for. If only venture capitalist Reggie Fowler owned the team we'd be leveraged to the hilt. And Kwesi's slim fits do not have pockets. Nor seams.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 1:04:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen The really great news is we currently have $26-29 million in cap to work with in 2024. Luxury money. We're kind of a big deal. Edit - as mentioned about, $21 million in effective cap space. Still a big deal in league circles. Then there are all those draft picks that are going to get playing time, which shows Kwesi's drafts were solid! Kwesi is playing 3-D chess while the league flounders at checkers. Compared to last year, $21 M has to be burning a hole through his slim fit pockets. (*Kwesi Kalculus, that's 21M = 21M+74.3M in dead money pushed out) It's a lot more than you're giving him credit for. If only venture capitalist Reggie Fowler owned the team we'd be leveraged to the hilt. And Kwesi's slim fits do not have pockets. Nor seams. with cloth stirrups.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 1:06:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen The really great news is we currently have $26-29 million in cap to work with in 2024. Luxury money. We're kind of a big deal. Edit - as mentioned about, $21 million in effective cap space. Still a big deal in league circles. Then there are all those draft picks that are going to get playing time, which shows Kwesi's drafts were solid! Kwesi is playing 3-D chess while the league flounders at checkers. Compared to last year, $21 M has to be burning a hole through his slim fit pockets. (*Kwesi Kalculus, that's 21M = 21M+74.3M in dead money pushed out) It's a lot more than you're giving him credit for. If only venture capitalist Reggie Fowler owned the team we'd be leveraged to the hilt. And Kwesi's slim fits do not have pockets. Nor seams. with cloth stirrups. [&:][&:][&:]

jbusse -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 9:45:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes Ben Goessling@BenGoessling Jan 14 Top-100 picks in 2024 draft: Packers: 5 Lions: 4 Bears: 3 (including Nos. 1 and 9 overall) Vikings: 2 Effective cap space, per OTC: Lions: $46M Bears: $36.4M Vikings: $21.5M Packers: -$3.5M ------------------- Our starters today (proven backups in parenthesis) [wasn't sure where to stick Metellus] QB Nick Mullens RB Ty Chandler (Alexander Mattison) FB C.J. Ham WR1 Justin Jefferson WR2 Jordan Addison LOT Christian Darrisaw LOG Henry Byrd C Garrett Bradbury ROG Ed Ingram ROT Brian O'Neill TE TJ Hockensen (Josh Oliver) NT Harrison Phillips DE Jaquelin Roy DT Sheldon Day LOLB Andre Carter II LILB Ivan Pace Jr. RILB Brian Asamoah II ROLB Pat Jones II LCB Byron Murphy Jr. (Josh Metellus) RCB Mekhi Blackmon SS Harrison Smith FS Camryn Bynum It's the most hopeless I've been since 2013. Back then, everything looked much better two years later under Zimmer. Hard to envision that type of turnaround over the next two years.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/19/2024 11:12:01 PM)
Yes David, the person that commented that Puka made Hall look good in college, was spot on, wish the Vikings had drafted Puka. JJ, Addison, Puka would have been a nice 1, 2 3 for the Vikings stud QB that they draft in 2024.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/20/2024 8:18:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jbusse quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes Ben Goessling@BenGoessling Jan 14 Top-100 picks in 2024 draft: Packers: 5 Lions: 4 Bears: 3 (including Nos. 1 and 9 overall) Vikings: 2 Effective cap space, per OTC: Lions: $46M Bears: $36.4M Vikings: $21.5M Packers: -$3.5M ------------------- Our starters today (proven backups in parenthesis) [wasn't sure where to stick Metellus] QB Nick Mullens RB Ty Chandler (Alexander Mattison) FB C.J. Ham WR1 Justin Jefferson WR2 Jordan Addison LOT Christian Darrisaw LOG Henry Byrd C Garrett Bradbury ROG Ed Ingram ROT Brian O'Neill TE TJ Hockensen (Josh Oliver) NT Harrison Phillips DE Jaquelin Roy DT Sheldon Day LOLB Andre Carter II LILB Ivan Pace Jr. RILB Brian Asamoah II ROLB Pat Jones II LCB Byron Murphy Jr. (Josh Metellus) RCB Mekhi Blackmon SS Harrison Smith FS Camryn Bynum It's the most hopeless I've been since 2013. Back then, everything looked much better two years later under Zimmer. Hard to envision that type of turnaround over the next two years. Agree. Compared to now, the talent on defense even before Zimmer was HoF caliber. Ultimately, six Pro Bowlers. The offense was similar with talent gaps on the OL (but worst) and QB. 2010 Everson Griffen 2012 Harrison Smith 2013 Sharrif Floyd 2013 Xavier Rhodes 2014 Anthony Barr 2015 Trae Waynes 2015 Eric Kendricks 2015 Danielle Hunter

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/20/2024 11:16:23 AM)
Maybe it’s been this way for a while but lately I’m noticing a lot of “breaking news”or sometimes just “news” where all they’re doing is bouncing off another site’s “news” that was unsourced speculation to begin with. Whether they’re pro or con it’s all just baseless crap. It’s so watered down.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/20/2024 12:57:40 PM)
There are a lot of “ fan sites” that run on rumor and speculation from sources like Twitter, and “ I know a guy “ It’s an echo chamber.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/20/2024 12:59:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Maybe it’s been this way for a while but lately I’m noticing a lot of “breaking news”or sometimes just “news” where all they’re doing is bouncing off another site’s “news” that was unsourced speculation to begin with. Whether they’re pro or con it’s all just baseless crap. It’s so watered down. Twitter, and “Vikings twitter” is basically that. One article or interview comes out (sometimes from a reputable source or quasi-reputable source) and then it’s a ripple effect as all the Vikings-insider-wannabes fall all over themselves to repackage the original information into something that looks like their own creation. Even something as simple as the official Vikings account announcing a happy birthday to a player will get endlessly repackaged and tweeted anew. Because, you know, how is anyone supposed to think “vikesguy38665” isn’t some sort of insider if they just simply hit the retweet button. Vikings twitter is 99% needy attention whores with zero original info or content.

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