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If there was an Elway or Manning in the draft, consider trading 3+ first rounders. This draft? Nope. Besides, Chi, Wash, and NE are going QB. Chi certainly isn't trading with us.

We're in the running for McCarthy, Penix, or Nix.

If we stay at 11, there is a solid chance that Penix and Nix are our only options.

If we want a QB, we should trade up and get a guy. Settling for whoever falls to us is proven loser strategy for this team.

Presuming the big 3 go 1-2-3 because those teams are not trading out of their positions, how high does one go for the second tier? Granted, a team could have their sights set on what they think is a sure-fire option but in general at what point is trading up a panic move?

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If there was an Elway or Manning in the draft, consider trading 3+ first rounders. This draft? Nope. Besides, Chi, Wash, and NE are going QB. Chi certainly isn't trading with us.

We're in the running for McCarthy, Penix, or Nix.

If we stay at 11, there is a solid chance that Penix and Nix are our only options.

If we want a QB, we should trade up and get a guy. Settling for whoever falls to us is proven loser strategy for this team.

Presuming the big 3 go 1-2-3 because those teams are not trading out of their positions, how high does one go for the second tier? Granted, a team could have their sights set on what they think is a sure-fire option but in general at what point is trading up a panic move?

I don't see a panic move. Williams is his own tier. McCarthy appears to be moving to the same tier as Daniels and Maye. One of those three should be available after the top 5 picks.

Even if you dispute McCarthy at Maye and Daniels level, he is a hell of a lot closer to them than he is to Pennix and Nix.

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Here's the thing about draft range when it comes to a QB...I don't care. That is, I think he might turn out to be the best of the bunch. If the front office feels the same way, take him at 11 and don't get cute about it.

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Agreed. Fields isn't the answer. If he was, Chicago would keep him and I've heard that there isn't much of a trade market for him which speaks volumes. More importantly, he isn't an accurate passer. That's a deal killer right there.

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I have a good feeling about Penix despite the injury issues. It's a risk, but he's got a great arm and he has the one thing that I covet most in a QB...he's accurate.

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Agreed. Fields isn't the answer. If he was, Chicago would keep him and I've heard that there isn't much of a trade market for him which speaks volumes. More importantly, he isn't an accurate passer. That's a deal killer right there.

What did he have for weapons and OLine, OC, Weapons, and Coach? You look at what was available to Stroud versus Fields......

Chicago doesn't always make the best decisions but trading away their pick last year was a good move...

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The thing with Fields is we'd get a cheap year for KOC (and now McNown) to work with him to see what his real ceiling is. Chicago is such a dumpster fire for QB's it's hard to judge him. I'm not at all saying that's my favorite choice but I would take that chance over KC's for 2 guaranteed years at 40+ each. Or whatever outrages demands he's gonna attempt.

You almost have to pick up (and believe he's worth) his 5th year option though.

If you don't, you're saying you don't have faith he's your guy - so you're just wasting another year of the franchise.

2/29 Million. Still saving a ton for 2 years. Again if you are justifying the move is to save money(you are saving around 50 million compared to what Kirk is getting). Fields and Lance can end up being better than the top 4 options if put in our dynamic offense. Gives you 2 years to build around them...

And most likely sets you back 2 years, so we're having this same conversation in 2026...

Same thing could happen with a QB you draft....

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I have a good feeling about Penix despite the injury issues. It's a risk, but he's got a great arm and he has the one thing that I covet most in a QB...he's accurate.

Penix is also seasoned enough to start as a rookie.

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I have a good feeling about Penix despite the injury issues. It's a risk, but he's got a great arm and he has the one thing that I covet most in a QB...he's accurate.

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I have a good feeling about Penix despite the injury issues. It's a risk, but he's got a great arm and he has the one thing that I covet most in a QB...he's accurate.

Where do you think his draft range is? #20 to #40??

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I have a good feeling about Penix despite the injury issues. It's a risk, but he's got a great arm and he has the one thing that I covet most in a QB...he's accurate.

Where do you think his draft range is? #20 to #40??

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I have a good feeling about Penix despite the injury issues. It's a risk, but he's got a great arm and he has the one thing that I covet most in a QB...he's accurate.

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The thing with Fields is we'd get a cheap year for KOC (and now McNown) to work with him to see what his real ceiling is. Chicago is such a dumpster fire for QB's it's hard to judge him. I'm not at all saying that's my favorite choice but I would take that chance over KC's for 2 guaranteed years at 40+ each. Or whatever outrages demands he's gonna attempt.

You almost have to pick up (and believe he's worth) his 5th year option though.

If you don't, you're saying you don't have faith he's your guy - so you're just wasting another year of the franchise.

2/29 Million. Still saving a ton for 2 years. Again if you are justifying the move is to save money(you are saving around 50 million compared to what Kirk is getting). Fields and Lance can end up being better than the top 4 options if put in our dynamic offense. Gives you 2 years to build around them...

And most likely sets you back 2 years, so we're having this same conversation in 2026...

Same thing could happen with a QB you draft....

But we don't have actual NFL tape on the rookies like we do for the 3 year guys.

I'll take my chance with a rookie over another team's throw away.

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KC won because they picked Mahomes at 11 which is half the cost on rookie contracts of a top 3.

KC won because they picked MAHOMES. Had they picked up Mahomes in the top 3, they still would have won, but they won SOONER by picking him at #10.

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Isn't Cousins sort of a high risk for Kwesi to sign ?

If they start our 0-5, and don't make the playoffs, fans might want both KOC and Kwesi fired.

Get a 1st round QB (and maybe a cheaper bridge vet QB as well), and that gives KOC and Kwesi at least another 2 years.

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I have a good feeling about Penix despite the injury issues. It's a risk, but he's got a great arm and he has the one thing that I covet most in a QB...he's accurate.

I like these things too. How is his pocket presence? Does he wilt under pressure? Does he move around in the pocket or just stand their waiting to be hit. How quickly does he learn and adjust to what opposing defenses are doing to him? He can be accurate when the pressure is light but when they are coming at him from places he doesn't expect does he handle it well and take advantage?


One more thing. Does he know to spike the ball at the appropriate time in the two minute drill?

Cause seriously, that shit really annoyed me last year out of a veteran like Cousins.

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Is Pinkett a nickname for Pickett?

He has thrown some game winners, but has been injured a lot, and throws too many picks. It seems the Steeler fan base is giving up on him, a little quickly, but he hasn't set the world on fire.

I liked Lawrence, and he seemed to regress last year. I liked Richardson, and he can't stay healthy.