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kgdabom -> RE: Twins off-season (2/11/2024 10:30:13 PM)
Did the Twins do anything exciting this offseason? One single thing?

Jeff Allen -> RE: Twins off-season (2/11/2024 10:54:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: MDK One Pohlad cared about winning. Eloise Only one No one is expecting them to lose money or spend a ton of money. But a #2 pitcher and another bat. Make good baseball moves. Signing Gallo and Vaszquez last year must be the 20 million they are trying to recover. It just makes less than zero sense. The bullpen is going to be very good. Tampa Bay model. There is a way to make money AND be competitive. The Twins have enough young, cheap talent to do both. Makes no sense to not try and acquire another really good SP so they can potentially make a run in the playoffs. They make money with home playoff games and they make more money by attracting another 7-10,000 fans per game during the season. Spend money to make money.

Jeff Allen -> RE: Twins off-season (2/11/2024 10:59:09 PM)
Bullpen... Duran, Jax, Topa, Stewart, Thielbar, Okert, Varland, Jay Jackson, Staumont, Alcala...that's a good bullpen, but not over the top great. I really want Varland in the pen. Lopez, TREVOR BAUER, Ryan, Ober, Paddack, DeSclafani

Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 7:17:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff Allen Bullpen... Duran, Jax, Topa, Stewart, Thielbar, Okert, Varland, Jay Jackson, Staumont, Alcala...that's a good bullpen, but not over the top great. I really want Varland in the pen. Lopez, TREVOR BAUER, Ryan, Ober, Paddack, DeSclafani They will start with Varland, Staumont, Funderburk, and Alcala at AAA....no way they sign Bauer. Too many 24 type episodes during the season. Plenty of depth but no apparent #2 after Lopez.

TJSweens -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 7:40:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff Allen Bullpen... Duran, Jax, Topa, Stewart, Thielbar, Okert, Varland, Jay Jackson, Staumont, Alcala...that's a good bullpen, but not over the top great. I really want Varland in the pen. Lopez, TREVOR BAUER, Ryan, Ober, Paddack, DeSclafani They will start with Varland, Staumont, Funderburk, and Alcala at AAA....no way they sign Bauer. Too many 24 type episodes during the season. Plenty of depth but no apparent #2 after Lopez. Varland will either be in the rotation or the pen in the majors. The only way he starts the year in AAA is if he stinks it up in ST.

Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 8:12:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff Allen Bullpen... Duran, Jax, Topa, Stewart, Thielbar, Okert, Varland, Jay Jackson, Staumont, Alcala...that's a good bullpen, but not over the top great. I really want Varland in the pen. Lopez, TREVOR BAUER, Ryan, Ober, Paddack, DeSclafani They will start with Varland, Staumont, Funderburk, and Alcala at AAA....no way they sign Bauer. Too many 24 type episodes during the season. Plenty of depth but no apparent #2 after Lopez. Varland will either be in the rotation or the pen in the majors. The only way he starts the year in AAA is if he stinks it up in ST. They will do to him what they did to Ober last year. Lopez, Ober, Ryan, DeScini, Paddock, Duran, Jax, Jackson, Thielbar, Stewart, Topa, Okert is 12. I don't know what options Staumont, Alcala, or Funderburk has either.

TJSweens -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 9:04:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff Allen Bullpen... Duran, Jax, Topa, Stewart, Thielbar, Okert, Varland, Jay Jackson, Staumont, Alcala...that's a good bullpen, but not over the top great. I really want Varland in the pen. Lopez, TREVOR BAUER, Ryan, Ober, Paddack, DeSclafani They will start with Varland, Staumont, Funderburk, and Alcala at AAA....no way they sign Bauer. Too many 24 type episodes during the season. Plenty of depth but no apparent #2 after Lopez. Varland will either be in the rotation or the pen in the majors. The only way he starts the year in AAA is if he stinks it up in ST. They will do to him what they did to Ober last year. More likely they will do what they did with Jax, Duran, Winder, Balazovic, Graterol, Alcala, etc.and move him to the bullpen. Ober was a much more accomplished starter going into last year than Varland is going into this year. The Twins immediately fell in love with Varland throwing 99 coming out of the bullpen last year.

Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 2:30:36 PM)
Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP · 8m As mentioned 2 weeks ago on @SKORNorth and @KSTP , #MNTwins were one of those teams to watch him. Quote Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 21m Free agent RHP Jake Odorizzi, an All-Star starter in 2019, is throwing without restrictions and looking to sign a major league deal in the coming weeks. Odorizzi, 33, has pitched off the mound this offseason in front of evaluators from 10 to 12 teams. @MLBNetwork @MLB Show more

Trekgeekscott -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 3:04:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP · 8m As mentioned 2 weeks ago on @SKORNorth and @KSTP , #MNTwins were one of those teams to watch him. Quote Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 21m Free agent RHP Jake Odorizzi, an All-Star starter in 2019, is throwing without restrictions and looking to sign a major league deal in the coming weeks. Odorizzi, 33, has pitched off the mound this offseason in front of evaluators from 10 to 12 teams. @MLBNetwork @MLB Show more Oh please don't let him be the other pitcher we sign... Please!

twinsfan -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 3:05:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP · 8m As mentioned 2 weeks ago on @SKORNorth and @KSTP , #MNTwins were one of those teams to watch him. Quote Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 21m Free agent RHP Jake Odorizzi, an All-Star starter in 2019, is throwing without restrictions and looking to sign a major league deal in the coming weeks. Odorizzi, 33, has pitched off the mound this offseason in front of evaluators from 10 to 12 teams. @MLBNetwork @MLB Show more Oh please don't let him be the other pitcher we sign... Please! We could do much worse than Odorizzi. He was an All-Star for us.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 3:10:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP · 8m As mentioned 2 weeks ago on @SKORNorth and @KSTP , #MNTwins were one of those teams to watch him. Quote Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 21m Free agent RHP Jake Odorizzi, an All-Star starter in 2019, is throwing without restrictions and looking to sign a major league deal in the coming weeks. Odorizzi, 33, has pitched off the mound this offseason in front of evaluators from 10 to 12 teams. @MLBNetwork @MLB Show more Oh please don't let him be the other pitcher we sign... Please! We could do much worse than Odorizzi. He was an All-Star for us. MANY YEARS AND INJURIES AGO.

Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 4:50:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP · 8m As mentioned 2 weeks ago on @SKORNorth and @KSTP , #MNTwins were one of those teams to watch him. Quote Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 21m Free agent RHP Jake Odorizzi, an All-Star starter in 2019, is throwing without restrictions and looking to sign a major league deal in the coming weeks. Odorizzi, 33, has pitched off the mound this offseason in front of evaluators from 10 to 12 teams. @MLBNetwork @MLB Show more Oh please don't let him be the other pitcher we sign... Please! We could do much worse than Odorizzi. He was an All-Star for us. MANY YEARS AND INJURIES AGO. [&:] You know that is the type of signing we will do. I would rather see Festa or Woods Richardson pitch TBH.

kgdabom -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 5:24:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP · 8m As mentioned 2 weeks ago on @SKORNorth and @KSTP , #MNTwins were one of those teams to watch him. Quote Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 21m Free agent RHP Jake Odorizzi, an All-Star starter in 2019, is throwing without restrictions and looking to sign a major league deal in the coming weeks. Odorizzi, 33, has pitched off the mound this offseason in front of evaluators from 10 to 12 teams. @MLBNetwork @MLB Show more Oh please don't let him be the other pitcher we sign... Please! We could do much worse than Odorizzi. He was an All-Star for us. MANY YEARS AND INJURIES AGO. [&:] You know that is the type of signing we will do. I would rather see Festa or Woods Richardson pitch TBH. Odor Eater it will be.

Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 5:26:52 PM)
Rumor is we are sniffing and kicking around Odor, Lorenzen, and Thor.

TJSweens -> RE: Twins off-season (2/12/2024 6:33:24 PM)
In other words, they have no intention of trading for a # 2 starter.

Mister Ed -> RE: Twins off-season (2/13/2024 5:41:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens In other words, they have no intention of trading for a # 2 starter. L Satisfied with being the king of the division.

TJSweens -> RE: Twins off-season (2/13/2024 9:01:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mister Ed quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens In other words, they have no intention of trading for a # 2 starter. L Satisfied with being the king of the division. Souhan wrote an article on what a shrewd strategy this is. Somehow moving Varland to the bullpen makes this a smart alternative to getting a legit #2 starter. The column is full of Twins standards like..."In a perfect world with unlimited payroll"... I'm sure Matt printed out a copy and put it on his refrigerator. [8\|]

ewen21 -> RE: Twins off-season (2/13/2024 9:20:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: ewen21 quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan It's nobody's business but Diamond's and the Twins'. Not after you claim you have no TV Deal and base your payroll on it just barely after the season is over. Especially when the fans are footing the bill for everything. To say it's none of the fans business is bullshit. I disagree. And your rationale is? We don't own the team. If we apply your rationale anytime you are dissatisfied with a product or service you cannot complain because you "don't own the company" You stay at a hotel with your wife and the experience is horrible. There is a plumbing issue, you can't get clean towels, etc..... But you do not own the hotel so it isn't any of your business how it is run? That is absolutely insane and you KNOW it is. This has been your modus operandi for some reason. I think he just want to have "conversations" no matter how ridiculous and absurd.

twinsfan -> RE: Twins off-season (2/13/2024 9:26:04 AM)
Pablo is the favorite to win the AL Cy Young in 2024. https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-cy-young-award-candidates-2024 1. Pablo López, RHP, Twins 2023 CYA finish: 7th No pitcher increased his strikeout rate more from 2022 to 2023 than López (minimum 150 innings in each season), whose 29.2% mark ranked fifth among qualified starters. He went from primarily using a four-seamer and changeup to adding a sweeper to that main mix, and went from a good pitcher with a lot of promise to a Cy Young contender. López made his first All-Star team in 2023 and received Cy Young votes for the first time. I can't wait to see what he does in 2024, continuing to build off of his changes and improvements. He would be the first Twins pitcher to win a Cy Young since his idol, Johan Santana, in 2006. Imagine the emotions there. -- Sarah Langs

Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins off-season (2/13/2024 3:50:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Mister Ed quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens In other words, they have no intention of trading for a # 2 starter. L Satisfied with being the king of the division. Souhan wrote an article on what a shrewd strategy this is. Somehow moving Varland to the bullpen makes this a smart alternative to getting a legit #2 starter. The column is full of Twins standards like..."In a perfect world with unlimited payroll"... I'm sure Matt printed out a copy and put it on his refrigerator. [8\|] I actually think a Festa or SWR or Varland can eventually be a decent 3 or 4.....that still is short of a #2. Maybe they have higher expectations for Ober or Ryan. Ryan did start out the season on fire and Ober was really good once called up....but uugh.

twinsfan -> RE: Twins off-season (2/13/2024 4:54:57 PM)
Lots of player complaints about the quality of the new MLB jerseys.

Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins off-season (2/14/2024 11:03:44 AM)
Dave St. Peter...not the greatest interview after a press release on the TV contract. Probably shouldn't have taken and or answered questions.

twinsfan -> RE: Twins off-season (2/14/2024 12:19:44 PM)
It's the most wonderful time of the year! It's the Preposterous Statement Tournament selection show! Let the preposterousness begin! Watch here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Wmj1j8p2Q

kgdabom -> RE: Twins off-season (2/18/2024 6:51:11 PM)
Who was that bum we traded for Lopez? Well worth it.

TJSweens -> RE: Twins off-season (2/19/2024 8:16:45 AM)
Looks like the news is better on Buxton this spring. After a procedure to remove tissue flaps that were causing his knee pain, he reports that he is 100% pain free for the first time since 2021. Supposedly there are no restrictions on what he can do in ST. How is this different?... Last year, we started ST with the news that Buck would start out at DH while he continued to rehab his knee which was still causing him pain after an off-season "clean-up" procedure. The strange part of that strategy is that Buxton had said in the past that his knee pain affected his hitting more than anything else. When he was shut down last year, they apparently found the tissue flaps in his knee that were iminging on his patellar tendon and nerves in the knee. So, that's it. With the flaps gone, the pain is gone. There are no structural issues with the knee. The knee supposedly should not prevent him from playing games. Here is the problem. Most of us are at the point that we will believe a full, healthy season out of Buxton when we see it. The baseball gods seem to like screwing with Buxton. He quit running headlong into walls and things continued to happen. Remember the year, Buck missed the Puerto Rico series with a migrane, got sent to AAA to get a few AB before coming back to the lineup and fouled the first pitch he saw off of his big toe, fracturing it and essentially ending his season? Like the poster in Fox Mulder's office "I Want to Believe". Until we get a full healthy season and playoffs from Buxton, I will be perpetually waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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