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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I don’t think Washington will be able to walk away from 4 1sts.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I trust the general consensus that Nix is a bum but I worry Brad might be right on McCarthy.

Likely moot as we’re going to pry 2 from Washington or 3 if they won’t budge from the Pats if it goes Williams/Daniels.

I’d just as soon pay up and park ourselves at 2 right now.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I trust the general consensus that Nix is a bum but I worry Brad might be right on McCarthy.

Likely moot as we’re going to pry 2 from Washington or 3 if they won’t budge from the Pats if it goes Williams/Daniels.

I’d just as soon pay up and park ourselves at 2 right now.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I trust the general consensus that Nix is a bum but I worry Brad might be right on McCarthy.

Likely moot as we’re going to pry 2 from Washington or 3 if they won’t budge from the Pats if it goes Williams/Daniels.

I’d just as soon pay up and park ourselves at 2 right now.

I don’t think Nix is a bum. I’d take him at 23.

I just worry he’s not going to translate to the Pro Game.

He could absolutely prove me wrong, but you’re banking on him being able to do a lot of things he hasn’t shown yet.

I’d guess at least 3 of the “Big 6” don’t pan out. I’m glad my livelihood doesn’t hinge on picking the right one.

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ORIGINAL: marty

1. YOU DON'T KNOW BRADY WAS ANYTHING LIKE NIX IN COLLEGE. QUIT ASSUMING THAT HE WAS.

I am making the comparison based on Nix throwing with high accuracy.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: kgdabomb
The ADOT thing is him running his coaches offense to perfection.

It's Nix making one read and dumping. The system allowed him to do that. He didn't do as well when he played in a system that required him to do more. You can't dump 67% of your throws in the NFL.

I can’t remember the last guy who put up crazy numbers in a “gimmick” offense that translated to the NFL.

But see, this is where you are wrong. It's not a gimmick offense any more. The Ducks passed the ball 54% of the time last season. The average in the NFL was around 55-56% in 2023.

https://fftoday.com/stats/23_run_pass_ratios.html

How was the Ducks' offense gimmicky?

Conversely, Michigan passed the ball 39% of the time. By any standards, that's a way more gimmicky offense than what Oregon was running.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: marty

1. YOU DON'T KNOW BRADY WAS ANYTHING LIKE NIX IN COLLEGE. QUIT ASSUMING THAT HE WAS.

I am making the comparison based on Nix throwing with high accuracy.

Brady completed 62% of his passes in college. There's no comparison to make.

If you want to draw a comparison between low ADOT and high completion %....BINGO! When 28% of your throws are behind the los and another 39% are in the 0-9 yard range, any decent QB will complete an impressive percentage of passes.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: marty

1. YOU DON'T KNOW BRADY WAS ANYTHING LIKE NIX IN COLLEGE. QUIT ASSUMING THAT HE WAS.

I am making the comparison based on Nix throwing with high accuracy.

Brady completed 62% of his passes in college. There's no comparison to make.

If you want to draw a comparison between low ADOT and high completion %....BINGO! When 28% of your throws are behind the los and another 39% are in the 0-9 yard range, any decent QB will complete an impressive percentage of passes.

My favorite take is “if you remove the dropped passes, his % is even better!”

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: kgdabomb
The ADOT thing is him running his coaches offense to perfection.

It's Nix making one read and dumping. The system allowed him to do that. He didn't do as well when he played in a system that required him to do more. You can't dump 67% of your throws in the NFL.

I can’t remember the last guy who put up crazy numbers in a “gimmick” offense that translated to the NFL.

But see, this is where you are wrong. It's not a gimmick offense any more. The Ducks passed the ball 54% of the time last season. The average in the NFL was around 55-56% in 2023.

https://fftoday.com/stats/23_run_pass_ratios.html

How was the Ducks' offense gimmicky?

Conversely, Michigan passed the ball 39% of the time. By any standards, that's a way more gimmicky offense than what Oregon was running.

The Ducks offense is gimmicky because the QB makes one read and dumps the ball if the primary isn't open. You'll get insane completion % when the vast majority of your passes are behind the los or just a few yards across it. That works in a weak college conference. It won't work in the NFL.

Michigan's offense is not gimmicky at all. It's run heavy. The passing game involves the QB going through reads and progressions like an NFL offense.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

4 will be gone by 6.

Penix no later than 13.

Nix late 1st, early 2nd.

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

With the blitz of articles this past week espousing how "aggressive" the Vikings will be in moving up in the draft, I'm starting to feel like it could be smoke on some level.

Like, could Kwesi be savvy enough to be letting teams think he is willing to give up 4 firsts to move up and let them sweat when we don't call?

Then they call us and we get a better deal?

And the other story this week being that we sent everyone to hang out with JJ this week as more smoke that he is the guy we really like and are moving to 4 for him...

and instead we pass and move up one spot for Penix?

Or to bait another team to move up for him?

Just seems weird that we would be so transparent

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

4 will be gone by 6.

Penix no later than 13.

Nix late 1st, early 2nd.

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

With the blitz of articles this past week espousing how "aggressive" the Vikings will be in moving up in the draft, I'm starting to feel like it could be smoke on some level.

Like, could Kwesi be savvy enough to be letting teams think he is willing to give up 4 firsts to move up and let them sweat when we don't call?

Then they call us and we get a better deal?

And the other story this week being that we sent everyone to hang out with JJ this week as more smoke that he is the guy we really like and are moving to 4 for him...

and instead we pass and move up one spot for Penix?

Or to bait another team to move up for him?

Just seems weird that we would be so transparent

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

With the blitz of articles this past week espousing how "aggressive" the Vikings will be in moving up in the draft, I'm starting to feel like it could be smoke on some level.

Like, could Kwesi be savvy enough to be letting teams think he is willing to give up 4 firsts to move up and let them sweat when we don't call?

Then they call us and we get a better deal?

And the other story this week being that we sent everyone to hang out with JJ this week as more smoke that he is the guy we really like and are moving to 4 for him...

and instead we pass and move up one spot for Penix?

Or to bait another team to move up for him?

Just seems weird that we would be so transparent

It would be nice to think that Kwesi improved from Draft #1 to Draft #2 and then punched the hyperdrive for this draft with all the draft dupery and flimflam that you are suggesting.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

I don't know who Brett Kollman is, but his thought processes are pure genius IMO.

Brett Kollmann
@BrettKollmann
I feel like picks 2, 3, 4, and 5 all lining up for the chance to get Minnesota's picks should be some kind of warning sign to all of us.

I don't know what that warning is yet, but it's there.
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