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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Jets fired their coach.

Hackett Interim? Rodgers Interim Off Cord/QB/GM? [&:]

Purple Daily had a prediction about a week ago that this would happen and he would be our next DC after Flo gets an offseason HC gig. I would be cool with that. That's so the Jets being the Jets. They have 1 really good/great side to their team and they fire the architect of that. You think it was Saleh that brought in Hackett to be OC? [&o]

Salah makes zero sense here. He runs a 4-3. It has taken 3 years for us to transition to a 3-4.

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ORIGINAL: Terry Stoneberg

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Pats perfect season was 16-0.

Nice catch. I even looked it up because I couldn't remember and then missed it.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Jets fired their coach.

Hackett Interim? Rodgers Interim Off Cord/QB/GM? [&:]

Purple Daily had a prediction about a week ago that this would happen and he would be our next DC after Flo gets an offseason HC gig. I would be cool with that. That's so the Jets being the Jets. They have 1 really good/great side to their team and they fire the architect of that. You think it was Saleh that brought in Hackett to be OC? [&o]

Salah makes zero sense here. He runs a 4-3. It has taken 3 years for us to transition to a 3-4.

Someone on the staff makes sense. Or someone outside organization who has worked with BFlo before.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

The key is how versatile all our LB's are (esp the edge guys). They can get after the qb and are also great in coverage. So BFlo can stack the LOS and the opposing offense has zero clue who is blitzing or dropping into coverage.

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ORIGINAL: BisonFan

Been sitting back and watching our team and have been more than pleasantly surprised. Just a few thoughts. The defense has been amazing and I am certain is due to the players we picked up in the offseason. Their flexibility as Bill stated has made the Flores defense thrive. However, I am a little concerned about teams starting to figure us out. The offense has been decent, but a worried about Darnold and hope KOC can get him going again. Wondering how the Darnold and Hockenson connection will be.

I didn't expect a lot of success this year, but so far they are proving me wrong. Just hoping they haven't gotten me excited only to let me and other fans down. SKOL!

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ORIGINAL: BisonFan

Been sitting back and watching our team and have been more than pleasantly surprised. Just a few thoughts. The defense has been amazing and I am certain is due to the players we picked up in the offseason. Their flexibility as Bill stated has made the Flores defense thrive. However, I am a little concerned about teams starting to figure us out. The offense has been decent, but a worried about Darnold and hope KOC can get him going again. Wondering how the Darnold and Hockenson connection will be.

I didn't expect a lot of success this year, but so far they are proving me wrong. Just hoping they haven't gotten me excited only to let me and other fans down. SKOL!

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Terry Stoneberg

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Pats perfect season was 16-0.

Nice catch. I even looked it up because I couldn't remember and then missed it.

Hey Terry. Glad to see you are back.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Former Minnesota Vikings defender Lewis Cine is no longer a safety.

He’s transitioned to linebacker with his new club, the Buffalo Bills, according to Niagara Gazette.

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ORIGINAL: BisonFan

Been sitting back and watching our team and have been more than pleasantly surprised. Just a few thoughts. The defense has been amazing and I am certain is due to the players we picked up in the offseason. Their flexibility as Bill stated has made the Flores defense thrive. However, I am a little concerned about teams starting to figure us out. The offense has been decent, but a worried about Darnold and hope KOC can get him going again. Wondering how the Darnold and Hockenson connection will be.

I didn't expect a lot of success this year, but so far they are proving me wrong. Just hoping they haven't gotten me excited only to let me and other fans down. SKOL!

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

But in reality nothing Flores is doing is crazy. It's all just basic concepts. Cover 2, Cover 4, Palms Cover 3, Cover 1 Cover 0 etc. Any one of these concepts gets run by the average high school on Fridays. What makes it brilliant is the flexibility in alignment and transitioning into the different coverages out of so many different looks. The cardinal rule for defensive coordinators is don't confuse your own defense trying to confuse their offense. Defense has to play fast, instinctively and read and react, they can't do that if they aren't 100% sure of their assignment. It is truly amazing how in-sync every member of the Vikings D looks on every play. What really sets Flores apart is his ability to teach his scheme so that players remember it and can hear the call and understand their assignment almost instantly. Would love to be a fly a wall in the defensive room and hear how he teaches his concepts and transitions.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

But in reality nothing Flores is doing is crazy. It's all just basic concepts. Cover 2, Cover 4, Palms Cover 3, Cover 1 Cover 0 etc. Any one of these concepts gets run by the average high school on Fridays. What makes it brilliant is the flexibility in alignment and transitioning into the different coverages out of so many different looks. The cardinal rule for defensive coordinators is don't confuse your own defense trying to confuse their offense. Defense has to play fast, instinctively and read and react, they can't do that if they aren't 100% sure of their assignment. It is truly amazing how in-sync every member of the Vikings D looks on every play. What really sets Flores apart is his ability to teach his scheme so that players remember it and can hear the call and understand their assignment almost instantly. Would love to be a fly a wall in the defensive room and hear how he teaches his concepts and transitions.

What sets things apart apart is Flores has the balls (and freedom) to mix things up, every game.

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

But in reality nothing Flores is doing is crazy. It's all just basic concepts. Cover 2, Cover 4, Palms Cover 3, Cover 1 Cover 0 etc. Any one of these concepts gets run by the average high school on Fridays. What makes it brilliant is the flexibility in alignment and transitioning into the different coverages out of so many different looks. The cardinal rule for defensive coordinators is don't confuse your own defense trying to confuse their offense. Defense has to play fast, instinctively and read and react, they can't do that if they aren't 100% sure of their assignment. It is truly amazing how in-sync every member of the Vikings D looks on every play. What really sets Flores apart is his ability to teach his scheme so that players remember it and can hear the call and understand their assignment almost instantly. Would love to be a fly a wall in the defensive room and hear how he teaches his concepts and transitions.

What sets things apart apart is Flores has the balls (and freedom) to mix things up, every game.

And the personnel and teaching ability to allow him to have the balls/freedom. The reason everyone doesn't do this from high school on up is you would have 11 of your guys standing there going, "Wait does that mean i have the flat or the deep or does he......," every time the ball is snapped." Takes some pretty smart cookies to pull this off. But other teams have smart players also so why are we accomplishing it? Flores has teaching his scheme down pat. He has reduced his concepts to the least verbiage and processes as possible to still get understanding and still be able to play fast.

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

But in reality nothing Flores is doing is crazy. It's all just basic concepts. Cover 2, Cover 4, Palms Cover 3, Cover 1 Cover 0 etc. Any one of these concepts gets run by the average high school on Fridays. What makes it brilliant is the flexibility in alignment and transitioning into the different coverages out of so many different looks. The cardinal rule for defensive coordinators is don't confuse your own defense trying to confuse their offense. Defense has to play fast, instinctively and read and react, they can't do that if they aren't 100% sure of their assignment. It is truly amazing how in-sync every member of the Vikings D looks on every play. What really sets Flores apart is his ability to teach his scheme so that players remember it and can hear the call and understand their assignment almost instantly. Would love to be a fly a wall in the defensive room and hear how he teaches his concepts and transitions.

What sets things apart apart is Flores has the balls (and freedom) to mix things up, every game.

And the personnel and teaching ability to allow him to have the balls/freedom. The reason everyone doesn't do this from high school on up is you would have 11 of your guys standing there going, "Wait does that mean i have the flat or the deep or does he......," every time the ball is snapped." Takes some pretty smart cookies to pull this off. But other teams have smart players also so why are we accomplishing it? Flores has teaching his scheme down pat. He has reduced his concepts to the least verbiage and processes as possible to still get understanding and still be able to play fast.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

But in reality nothing Flores is doing is crazy. It's all just basic concepts. Cover 2, Cover 4, Palms Cover 3, Cover 1 Cover 0 etc. Any one of these concepts gets run by the average high school on Fridays. What makes it brilliant is the flexibility in alignment and transitioning into the different coverages out of so many different looks. The cardinal rule for defensive coordinators is don't confuse your own defense trying to confuse their offense. Defense has to play fast, instinctively and read and react, they can't do that if they aren't 100% sure of their assignment. It is truly amazing how in-sync every member of the Vikings D looks on every play. What really sets Flores apart is his ability to teach his scheme so that players remember it and can hear the call and understand their assignment almost instantly. Would love to be a fly a wall in the defensive room and hear how he teaches his concepts and transitions.

What sets things apart apart is Flores has the balls (and freedom) to mix things up, every game.

And the personnel and teaching ability to allow him to have the balls/freedom. The reason everyone doesn't do this from high school on up is you would have 11 of your guys standing there going, "Wait does that mean i have the flat or the deep or does he......," every time the ball is snapped." Takes some pretty smart cookies to pull this off. But other teams have smart players also so why are we accomplishing it? Flores has teaching his scheme down pat. He has reduced his concepts to the least verbiage and processes as possible to still get understanding and still be able to play fast.

He didn't really have the personnel last year, but he stuck to his crazy schemes and ran them anyway. It's who he is. An innovator... maybe even sort of anti-establishment. He's the defensive equivalent of Mike Martz, who was great at cooking up new concepts behind the curtain and unleashing them on Sundays.

As DCs and assistants pore over video, tendencies, player tells, etc it will be interesting if they can establish effective counters... and whether Flores can respond in kind.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

We played total soft coverages in the second half.. DB’s were ten yards off and back peddling immediately at the snap.. the middle zone was wide open, because players were staying within a set area, regardless of traffic..van Ginkle got burned by double out then cut in moves, behind him. And Rodger’s used his eyes to bait Lbs to drift to outside lanes and flats, while slots and receivers were cutting back to the middle.


It was prevent defense of donnashello level of stupid.

There was no reason to change the defense we were using in the first half, except that coaching had a ballsack shrinkage situation.
Offense and defense.

Darnold was injured and rattled by the hit to his chest, plus he got clocked a number of times by shitty pas blocking, and sacked..

Chandler is no threat in play action , because he doesn’t run as hard as Jones, and he can’t even catch a pitch right at him, let alone a pass.

Jets didn’t figure out shit, out coaches made very poor choices of coverage, defenses, and play calls .

Not taking points in the red zone on Fourth down is a prime example of stupid.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

We played total soft coverages in the second half.. DB’s were ten yards off and back peddling immediately at the snap.. the middle zone was wide open, because players were staying within a set area, regardless of traffic..van Ginkle got burned by double out then cut in moves, behind him. And Rodger’s used his eyes to bait Lbs to drift to outside lanes and flats, while slots and receivers were cutting back to the middle.


It was prevent defense of donnashello level of stupid.

There was no reason to change the defense we were using in the first half, except that coaching had a ballsack shrinkage situation.
Offense and defense.

Darnold was injured and rattled by the hit to his chest, plus he got clocked a number of times by shitty pas blocking, and sacked..

Chandler is no threat in play action , because he doesn’t run as hard as Jones, and he can’t even catch a pitch right at him, let alone a pass.

Jets didn’t figure out shit, out coaches made very poor choices of coverage, defenses, and play calls .

Not taking points in the red zone on Fourth down is a prime example of stupid.

I think that our defense has just gotten tired in the 2nd half of games lately...o'connell's playcalling has been weak, and he hasn't been able to keep the defense off the field
- and with darnold getting tweaked, it's compounded...our wide receivers looked tired running those slow-developing routes over and over...i blame o'connell more that flores....

the defense gets winded and has to play looser coverage - I don't have access to the numbers, but it seemed that our offense lost the possession battles in the 2nd halves of the last two games - probably most of the games this season....

also, jetlag is a real thing...it takes me a week to normalize when I cross the atlantic - physically and mentally....