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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Whatever. It was going to get done one way or the other.

IMO the deal was mandated by the marketing machine that is already in place to promote JJ, not for his actual competitive impact.

Doesn't matter if Darnold or JJ fall flat and JJ's production goes down, the Wilfs have locked in the tip of their sales spear. The Griddy >>> TDs.

For some reason, we seem to think spending top dollar on players regardless of position makes us more legitimate. Can't wait to sign Darrisaw ... at least we'll be blowing our wad legitimately. Right now we're lighting up the books with top 5 contracts at WR, FB, RT, TE and S (if you go by 35 year olds).

With shirtless Kirko gone and no franchise QB on the books, the team had to go coddle somebody.

Thank God at least JJ is not a TE. If he were, KOC would have campaigned for a Jordan-like profit percentage on top of guaranteed money.

I get people aren't excited to commit huge money to single player after the Kirk trauma.

But I feel like Jefferson production is gets minimized a bit.
He holds the all time record for yards in the 1st 3 years for WR I believe.
I believe he has the all time highest yards per game (98 ypg?).
Agreed, would like to see more TDs...

In addition, I think you need superstars to win.
WR is probably a bit down on the list... maybe behind qb, de, cb...
But I think guys like Kupp, Chase, Hill & Julio Jones were major factors in getting teams to the superbowl.

I really want to see the Jefferson/Addison 1-2 punch.

Kirk is gone... that was my main offseason wish.

As a Minnesota fan, if you can't be optimistic in the offseason all you got is heartache.

My complaint is less with JJ than our approach to things. (Although I'm tired of his over-saturated commercial presence and irritated by his contractual comments)

He obviously has played himself into a great situation. I'm all for rewarding people that do that. I prefer that the reward is commensurate with the results but its not up to me.

I get you have to have to have complimentary pieces to win a SB ... I just wish we didn't have to pay our complimentary pieces cornerstone money.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Cap hits for Jefferson: 9, 15, 39, 43, 48, 6 (void)

Pay later Kwesi.

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ORIGINAL: marty
Well Dan, I think McCarthy will be good eventually, and Darnold will be inconsistent, and probably suck.
IF Darnold appears to be starting the whole year, and JJ is putting up poor numbers right away, then JJ will allow himself to get injured early on, if JJ also thinks that JJ McCarthy sucks.
That way, there is a chance JJ can still be traded for a nice price, using the fact that it was Darnold that brought his numbers down.
Otherwise, I expect JJ to stay healthy.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Cap hits for Jefferson: 9, 15, 39, 43, 48, 6 (void)

Pay later Kwesi.

looks like the extension parade starts during the 2026 offseason....

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: marty
Well Dan, I think McCarthy will be good eventually, and Darnold will be inconsistent, and probably suck.
IF Darnold appears to be starting the whole year, and JJ is putting up poor numbers right away, then JJ will allow himself to get injured early on, if JJ also thinks that JJ McCarthy sucks.
That way, there is a chance JJ can still be traded for a nice price, using the fact that it was Darnold that brought his numbers down.
Otherwise, I expect JJ to stay healthy.

We paid a lot to Kirk who was also inconsistent at times.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

After signing JJ it looks like the Vikings now have $27M + in cap space. Once they pay the rookies, it figures to be $17M +. Next year projects to $54.5M.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I’m so thankful for the Vikings. When you’re fighting for your life with mental health and addiction issues the world can get pretty dark. This off season has been amazing and the renewed hope I have in the team’s direction has been a positive light in the darkness. There’s no guarantees it’ll pay off with the ultimate prize - a ring…but I’m invested fully and I want to ride along with them as they try.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I’m so thankful for the Vikings. When you’re fighting for your life with mental health and addiction issues the world can get pretty dark. This off season has been amazing and the renewed hope I have in the team’s direction has been a positive light in the darkness. There’s no guarantees it’ll pay off with the ultimate prize - a ring…but I’m invested fully and I want to ride along with them as they try.

Todd we've had our differences over the years, but for my part I've always appreciated you. All the best.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

After signing JJ it looks like the Vikings now have $27M + in cap space. Once they pay the rookies, it figures to be $17M +. Next year projects to $54.5M.

Do you try to fix Center with a long term deal for Connor Williams?

Do a couple 1 year deals(DE Campbell and WR Renfrow) and try to win now. And not hurt future cap.

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ORIGINAL: marty

I see Aaron Jones as a one year rental that will likely elevate whatever QB is playing this season, and then the following year or two, they'll be wondering why we can't get the run game going.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

The “ win now, just need to sign (insert overvalued position player here).. that is the only way to use the cap.” …

Has been tried and shown to be a huge failure, over and over.

Herschel Walker? Nope

Randal Cunningham? Nope.

Brett Favrey? Nope.

“ you like that”.. nope.

Quit redefining insanity by shuffling deck chair on the NFL/USS STUPID.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

After signing JJ it looks like the Vikings now have $27M + in cap space. Once they pay the rookies, it figures to be $17M +. Next year projects to $54.5M.

Do you try to fix Center with a long term deal for Connor Williams?

Do a couple 1 year deals(DE Campbell and WR Renfrow) and try to win now. And not hurt future cap.

Yes to some long-term deals (maybe next year is more likely) to try to establish continuity as a team.

No to one year rentals to try to 'win now'. Not happening. Roll over that cap!

Strategy... what's their plan to peak as a team?

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I’m so thankful for the Vikings. When you’re fighting for your life with mental health and addiction issues the world can get pretty dark. This off season has been amazing and the renewed hope I have in the team’s direction has been a positive light in the darkness. There’s no guarantees it’ll pay off with the ultimate prize - a ring…but I’m invested fully and I want to ride along with them as they try.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

After signing JJ it looks like the Vikings now have $27M + in cap space. Once they pay the rookies, it figures to be $17M +. Next year projects to $54.5M.

Do you try to fix Center with a long term deal for Connor Williams?

Do a couple 1 year deals(DE Campbell and WR Renfrow) and try to win now. And not hurt future cap.

Yes to some long-term deals (maybe next year is more likely) to try to establish continuity as a team.

No to one year rentals to try to 'win now'. Not happening. Roll over that cap!

Strategy... what's their plan to peak as a team?

Serious question: How do you roll over cap? Is it something to do with unearned incentives?

One year deals(with no void years) don't hurt next year's cap. It might hurt our draft position(if the players help us win games) but not the cap space.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

After signing JJ it looks like the Vikings now have $27M + in cap space. Once they pay the rookies, it figures to be $17M +. Next year projects to $54.5M.

Do you try to fix Center with a long term deal for Connor Williams?

Do a couple 1 year deals(DE Campbell and WR Renfrow) and try to win now. And not hurt future cap.

Yes to some long-term deals (maybe next year is more likely) to try to establish continuity as a team.

No to one year rentals to try to 'win now'. Not happening. Roll over that cap!

Strategy... what's their plan to peak as a team?

Serious question: How do you roll over cap? Is it something to do with unearned incentives?

One year deals(with no void years) don't hurt next year's cap. It might hurt our draft position(if the players help us win games) but not the cap space.

Yes it does often affect draft position. Like our 3-0 victory over the Raiders. We won [&o] And we lost I think 5 draft positions. I'm just saying don't spend for the sake of spending if we are not realistically in the mix for the SB.

Roll over unused cap, i.e. move surplus cap at I guess the end of the NFL year into the following year. I think the unused cap just rolls into the next year. Or teams have to apply to do it, but it's basically seamless.

If we have $17 million after paying the rooks, minus say 4 for in-season stuff then move $13 million to 2025. Then move it and more to 2026 or whenever to a time when the regime goes all out. Basically have a plan!