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Bill Johanesen -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:17:57 PM)
Decisions to come? Uh, no. It's already decided.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:18:00 PM)
I'll agree with you Matt. Definitely.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:19:53 PM)
Jefferson not going out on the field again?

twinsfan -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:21:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen The air quality? Please. The AQI is green, not even a number assigned on my app. ? What are you trying to say?

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:22:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games.

twinsfan -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:24:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer I'll agree with you Matt. Definitely. Thanks. It's a bad product that bookmakers have hoodwinked the public into thinking is fantastic.

twinsfan -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:25:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? Did he quit?

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:27:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? Did he quit? In the 2nd quarter.

Mark Anderson -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:28:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:30:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. They said JJ walks off the field in his young career. Coming up on year 6 and age 26. By the time Moss was age 23 he had three playoff wins with 7 TDs, and over 600 yards in six playoff games. Sure, the Moss teams were better.... because of Moss!

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:30:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones. The best in the game a no show the last 2 games. Sorry. Not impressed. We need draft picks. We have none. Total rebuild on both interior lines. Lots of FAs. I don't see the value in a disappearing wr. Even against single coverage.

marty -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:32:27 PM)
David Lavine was spot on, with regards to Sam: I think he looks off some of the quick throws because he thinks he has time to look for something bigger. And then he gets swarmed and people blame the coach and line. Twinsfan: Nothing wrong with that approach. 14-3 record. It worked great until you had to a play a playoff team on the road. And after the Lions game, there is no future with Sam in this offense next year, teams would stop him, the Vikings would win 6 games tops.

Mark Anderson -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:32:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer up I'll agree with you Matt. Definitely. Thanks. It's a bad product that bookmakers have hoodwinked the public into thinking is fantastic. The Product is good. But I do believe fantasy football has bumped up the viewership. There are fantasy leagues in all the other sports too but football is by far the most popular.

Mark Anderson -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:35:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones. The best in the game a no show the last 2 games. Sorry. Not impressed. We need draft picks. We have none. Total rebuild on both interior lines. Lots of FAs. I don't see the value in a disappearing wr. Even against single coverage. Dead cap hit is 80M. We aren't fixing any lines with negative cap space.

marty -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:36:48 PM)
I am fine with blowouts wildcard weekend, I want officiating that gets the calls right, not giving the underdog extra chances with incorrect calls. Next week's game should be more competitive. If not, hopefully we at least get a competitive Super Bowl.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:37:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones. The best in the game a no show the last 2 games. Sorry. Not impressed. We need draft picks. We have none. Total rebuild on both interior lines. Lots of FAs. I don't see the value in a disappearing wr. Even against single coverage. Dead cap hit is 80M. We aren't fixing any lines with negative cap space. If we trade him the dead cap hot is 80 million? Hmmm. I guess we're stuck with the bum.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:38:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty I am fine with blowouts wildcard weekend, I want officiating that gets the calls right, not giving the underdog extra chances with incorrect calls. Next week's game should be more competitive. If not, hopefully we at least get a competitive Super Bowl. The refs are the least of my worries after what I just saw.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:39:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones. The best in the game a no show the last 2 games. Sorry. Not impressed. We need draft picks. We have none. Total rebuild on both interior lines. Lots of FAs. I don't see the value in a disappearing wr. Even against single coverage. Dead cap hit is 80M. We aren't fixing any lines with negative cap space. Based on "we need picks... we have none", I think Richard is advocating a trade, not a cut.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:40:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones. The best in the game a no show the last 2 games. Sorry. Not impressed. We need draft picks. We have none. Total rebuild on both interior lines. Lots of FAs. I don't see the value in a disappearing wr. Even against single coverage. Dead cap hit is 80M. We aren't fixing any lines with negative cap space. Based on "we need picks... we have none", I think Richard is advocating a trade, not a cut. Agreed. I never recommended cutting him.

Mark Anderson -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:42:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones. The best in the game a no show the last 2 games. Sorry. Not impressed. We need draft picks. We have none. Total rebuild on both interior lines. Lots of FAs. I don't see the value in a disappearing wr. Even against single coverage. Dead cap hit is 80M. We aren't fixing any lines with negative cap space. Based on "we need picks... we have none", I think Richard is advocating a trade, not a cut. Agreed. I never recommended cutting him. Does it matter? I'm not positive but I still think you get dinged with dead cap. Anyway, any dumb GMs out there going to give up a 1 and change for KOC?

Bill Johanesen -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:42:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones. The best in the game a no show the last 2 games. Sorry. Not impressed. We need draft picks. We have none. Total rebuild on both interior lines. Lots of FAs. I don't see the value in a disappearing wr. Even against single coverage. Dead cap hit is 80M. We aren't fixing any lines with negative cap space. Based on "we need picks... we have none", I think Richard is advocating a trade, not a cut. Agreed. I never recommended cutting him. I didn't want him extended for the projected $$ and preferred a trade but that ship sailed.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:43:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones. The best in the game a no show the last 2 games. Sorry. Not impressed. We need draft picks. We have none. Total rebuild on both interior lines. Lots of FAs. I don't see the value in a disappearing wr. Even against single coverage. Dead cap hit is 80M. We aren't fixing any lines with negative cap space. Based on "we need picks... we have none", I think Richard is advocating a trade, not a cut. Agreed. I never recommended cutting him. Does it matter? I'm not positive but I still think you get dinged with dead cap. Anyway, any dumb GMs out there going to give up a 1 and change for KOC? I don't think anyone is dumb enough to trade for KOC. But stranger things have happened.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:46:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones. The best in the game a no show the last 2 games. Sorry. Not impressed. We need draft picks. We have none. Total rebuild on both interior lines. Lots of FAs. I don't see the value in a disappearing wr. Even against single coverage. Dead cap hit is 80M. We aren't fixing any lines with negative cap space. Based on "we need picks... we have none", I think Richard is advocating a trade, not a cut. Agreed. I never recommended cutting him. Does it matter? I'm not positive but I still think you get dinged with dead cap. Anyway, any dumb GMs out there going to give up a 1 and change for KOC? Yes, I think we'd still have to absorb the signing bonus and things related to that (prorated stuff). So a trade is still probably too costly.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:47:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. Then what? Hope to hit on draft picks. With KAM I see some Pakua over JJ posts. It's close but one guy is going against double coverage because they only need to rush 4 guys and one guy is going one on one with a 50 year CB because we have to blitz every down to get pressure. If this game doesn't prove to the front office that we need to rebuild the Lines then nothing will. Also, thanks for beating the Packers twice Sam but we need the money elsewhere. We will go with the more mobile guys. JJM and Jones. The best in the game a no show the last 2 games. Sorry. Not impressed. We need draft picks. We have none. Total rebuild on both interior lines. Lots of FAs. I don't see the value in a disappearing wr. Even against single coverage. Dead cap hit is 80M. We aren't fixing any lines with negative cap space. Based on "we need picks... we have none", I think Richard is advocating a trade, not a cut. Agreed. I never recommended cutting him. Does it matter? I'm not positive but I still think you get dinged with dead cap. Anyway, any dumb GMs out there going to give up a 1 and change for KOC? Yes, I think we'd still have to absorb the signing bonus and things related to that (prorated stuff). So a trade is still probably too costly. So we're stuck with the bum! Oh well!

Mark Anderson -> RE: Wildcard Round: @ Rams 1-13-24 7:00PM CT (1/13/2025 10:51:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Jefferson not going out on the field again? I'd trade him. We need assets. He does nothing in big games. They said JJ walks off the field in his young career. Coming up on year 6 and age 26. By the time Moss was age 23 he had three playoff wins with 7 TDs, and over 600 yards in six playoff games. Sure, the Moss teams were better.... because of Moss! and OLine and QB. But agree that JJ has to improve. Physical play against him is working. He needs to get stronger.

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