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Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (6/30/2011 9:53:30 AM)

Pens trying to bring back Jagre???  WTH.




djskillz -> RE: General NHL (6/30/2011 10:46:06 AM)

I cannot believe that guy is "only" 39. Seems like he should be 60.




Stacey King -> RE: General NHL (8/10/2011 3:14:28 PM)

Some potential Rules being tested at the NHLs research and developmet camp this fall. I don't think penalties should be served in their entirety, don't like that one.
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Eight of the more interesting rule tweaks to be tested

1. Changes only permitted on-the-fly - This would eliminate all line changes after whistles save for the end of a period, after a goal is scored or a penalty is called. It's a pretty novel idea, one designed to limit line matching and have more tired players on the ice, but it would likely detract from the game given so many players would be taking faceoffs and immediately changing.

2. No line change for team committing an offside - Two rules make going offside a far bigger offence, with this one equating going offside to icing the puck in terms of the "no change" penalty that comes with it. This takes aim at cutting some of the whistles out of games and forcing players to enter the zone on-side more often.

3. After offside, face-off goes back to offending team's end - This tweak goes one step further, moving the play all the way back into a team's defensive zone if they go offside while trying to enter the offensive zone. There are some advanced statistics out there that suggest having more faceoffs in your own end can be a big disadvantage, so this would obviously add to that.

4. No icing permitted while shorthanded - This has been discussed at length in recent years as a way to make power plays more of an advantage. Players killing penalties would have to chip the puck out or skate out of the zone rather than simply hammer it the length of the ice.

5. Overtime variation (four minutes of 4-on-4 followed by three minutes of 3-on-3) - This would expand the extra frame by another two minutes with the goal of settling more games without a shootout. Some leagues, like the BCHL, already have 3-on-3 portions to their overtimes and almost every single game is decided before a tie because of it. For those that hate the shootout, here's one way to wipe most of them out of the game.

6. All penalties to be served in their entirety - Another tweak that would make power plays a far bigger advantage. The average power play was roughly 1:30 long last season, often ending when a goal was scored, but another 30 seconds on each man advantage could potentially increase the power play goals scored in the league by another 20 or 30 per cent. (Given what took place in the first year after the lockout with so many penalty calls, that isn't always a good thing.)

7. Verification line (additional line behind the goal line) - A yellow line is what they're talking about and it'd be set exactly a puck length away from the goal line. If a puck touches the verification line, it would be ruled a goal, giving hockey ops another tool to evaluate whether or not pucks crossed the line.

8. In-net camera: a mounted camera with view focused on the goal line to help verify goals - Hard to believe they haven't added something like this already with all the new technology that's out there. There are still too many calls made where officials simply don't have enough camera angles.




Lynn G. -> RE: General NHL (8/10/2011 3:52:26 PM)

Thanks for posting those Stacey. For the most part I like the proposed changes.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (8/10/2011 4:24:17 PM)

No way IMHO.  Leave everything alone but I do like the yellow line thingy and goal cam. 

The other stuff makes no sense IMO.




Stacey King -> RE: General NHL (8/12/2011 9:59:09 AM)

This day in Hockey, August 12th

1997: Dallas Stars signed Tony Hrkac. The Hrkac Circus! Anyone remember the Hrkac Circus line from North Dakota with Bob Joyce and Steve Johnson? Hrkac was the first UND player to win the Hobey Baker award in 1987, the same year he scored eight points against Michigan State in a single game. That year, Hrkac scored 46 goals in 48 games and put up 116 points. At the end of that season (one that saw the Fighting Sioux win the national championship) Hrkac turned pro with the St. Louis Blues and joined them for their playoff run when Mark Hunter went down with a shoulder injury.

[image]http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3325/tonyhrkacrc.jpg[/image] [image]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4115/bobjoycerc.jpg[/image]




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (8/12/2011 12:02:07 PM)

If I didn't like you Stacey I would turn down your internet connection with that BS.  ND and Dallas in one post??? [X(][X(][X(]




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Stacey King -> RE: General NHL (8/12/2011 12:06:22 PM)

All the while posting it I was thinking...

[image]http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7135/gopherhockey.jpg[/image]




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (8/12/2011 12:23:21 PM)

LOL.  that's awesome.  




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General NHL (8/16/2011 7:51:06 PM)

Another sad story of a dead NHL tough guy. Didn't he go after a fan at the Exel once?

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Bling+thing+Rick+Rypien+former+junior+hockey+colleagues/5262132/story.html

And yes, he was the guy involved with that incident in St. Paul. Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NrPP2CnidI




Stacey King -> RE: General NHL (8/17/2011 12:23:11 PM)

This day in Hockey:

1959: Craig Levie born in Calgary. Played from '81-'87 with Winnipeg, Minnesota, St. Louis and Vancouver. Most notable story about Levie was when Minnesota loaned him to Davos of the Swiss league in the summer of 1986 so the Stars could use Ron Wilson (now Leafs head coach) for the entire next season and playoffs. Wilson was still under contract to the Swiss team when he played with the Stars. Levie injured his groin after a handful of games with Davos and returned to the NHL to sign with the Canucks, where he played nine games. He closed out his career playing in Italy.

1983: Minnesota signs Dirk Graham as a free agent. While many claim Jarome Iginla was the NHL's first black captain (named by the Flames in 2003), technically Graham was the first when Mike Keenan named him leader of the Hawks in January 1989. One of Graham's parents is of mixed-race.

1992: The Montreal Canadiens trade Mike McPhee to the Minnesota North Stars for a 5th-round draft pick (Jeff Lank). McPhee injured his left knee during Dallas' training camp in '94 and never returned to the NHL after the lockout. In retirement, he did some work with Pinnacle Sports Cards.

[image]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/91/dirkgraham.jpg[/image] [image]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3977/mikemcphee2.jpg[/image]




Stacey King -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 11:55:25 AM)

The first session of the NHL’s two-day research and development camp showed how important the process has become to the league in only its second year of operation. And for the first time, it appears the league is poised to implement at least one small, R&D camp-tested alteration to the game.

In testing some 30 rule variations in the west end of Toronto using the top 2012 NHL draft prospects as players, camp architect (and NHL vice-president of hockey and business development) Brendan Shanahan stressed the process was more about gathering information than making “knee-jerk reactions” to what could be passing trends.

Nevertheless, he couldn’t help but give a solid thumbs-up to the one suggested change virtually everyone on hand – which included more than one-third of the league’s GMs and numerous player development people – thought was a no-brainer: a solid green line just inside the goal line that would serve as a verification for goal disputes. (The idea is that if the puck in any way is touching the green line, it has passed the traditional goal line and counts on the scoreboard.)

“I think the verification line is a really good idea that doesn’t affect the game and how it’s played in any way other than it will be of great assistance to hockey operations on certain goal reviews,” Shanahan said.

He’s absolutely correct: the new green line clearly wouldn’t have any ramifications on the game, but would go a long ways to cutting down on the often-lengthy video goal review system.

The other rule one GM called a “no-brainer” were the nets being reduced in depth by nearly 10 percent. The shallower nets would barely be perceptible to the average fan, but by making the net 40 inches deep (instead of the current, standard 44-inch deep model), the league would be adding precious space to a playing surface most agree is too small for the size of its players.

[image]http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/153/greenverificationline.jpg[/image]




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 12:14:42 PM)

Gawd, I miss those old North Star greens.
I even loved the revamped ones "Norm Green Sucks" sprung on us.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 1:30:59 PM)

As much as I love the Wild, I just plain miss the NS' period.  [:@]


If you asked me as a kid who MY team was it wasn't the Vikings/Twins ect....Even though I really loved them too.  It was the NS', period. 

Those were my guys:

Broten
Plett
Smith
Hartsburg
Giles
Roberts
Bellows the pussy [&:]
Gagne




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 1:32:25 PM)

Best time of my life, too, Jeff. [8|]




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 1:34:51 PM)

That run to the cup was epic.  Too bad we ran in to a juggernaut.  




Stacey King -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 1:40:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Best time of my life, too, Jeff. [8|]


Same here.

Favorite logo, jersey, org. of mine to this day.

Steve Payne & Hartsburg my favorite players.




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 1:45:48 PM)

Whoa Stacey! You just entered brothers-from-diff-mothers territory!
Two of the best.
Payner was a hoot .... built like a brick excrement-house. Tossed people around like rag-dolls when angry.




David Levine -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 1:48:51 PM)

Every couple seasons, Denis Leary breaks out this T-Shirt on RESCUE ME.

Not bad for a guy from Boston (who lives in Connecticut) on a TV show set in NYC.


[image]http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/Simitar/rescue-me.jpg[/image]




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 1:50:33 PM)

Mad ups. Mad ups.
Classic, cool, and missed dearly.




Stacey King -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 1:54:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Whoa Stacey! You just entered brothers-from-diff-mothers territory!
Two of the best.
Payner was a hoot .... built like a brick excrement-house. Tossed people around like rag-dolls when angry.



my email addy is rooster

''rooster'' is in honor of his nickname.

also liked Steve 'the lizard' Christoff.  his career was taking off, then injured his shoulder in a fight and it became an ongoing issue.




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 2:31:45 PM)

Broten, Beaupre, Christoff ... used to run into them and others before and after games on the strip.
It was awesome. They were the same age as us, and were easily accessible.
Nothing like the guys-in-glass-cages you see nowadays. (not so much in hockey, but other sports) 




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General NHL (8/18/2011 2:35:20 PM)

I had a buddy that new Beaupre quite a bit.  Said he was a great guy.  Actually, you guys with kids may know my best friend from HS.  Ever heard of Brian Z from Club Fun TV?  It was a local show only and it hasn't been on for years.




SoMnFan -> RE: General NHL (8/21/2011 7:59:30 PM)

One of my best buddies got to spend the night with the Cup last week.
His best friend (Hnidy) got picked up late in the year by the Bruins and got in on a great tradition (everyone takes it home)
No better trophy in sports.
Its amazing how much money and good will it attracts for the people who get to show it off all year. It gets used to raise money for youth levels, draw people to events, you name it.
One of the most awesome parts of the most awesome game.




Corleone -> RE: General NHL (8/22/2011 12:08:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

One of my best buddies got to spend the night with the Cup last week.
His best friend (Hnidy) got picked up late in the year by the Bruins and got in on a great tradition (everyone takes it home)
No better trophy in sports.
Its amazing how much money and good will it attracts for the people who get to show it off all year. It gets used to raise money for youth levels, draw people to events, you name it.
One of the most awesome parts of the most awesome game.


Hear, hear. I'll never forget when I got to hold the Cup in the summer of '95 when Broten had it at Old Chicago in downtown Minneapolis....one of those friend-of-a-friend benefits where I got to briefly slip into the inner circle. Too bad no one had cell phone cameras back then. [:@]




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