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Tim Cady -> RE: NFL News (1/1/2009 5:01:49 PM)

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marty happy new year, I am a disciple of the sway, I actually use your arguements with other conspiracy types, but I gotta call you out man, you have to admit to your worship of #4 and various other packers.

The first step is admitting you have a problem.[;)]



Tim Cady -> RE: NFL News (1/1/2009 5:14:34 PM)

The Vikings need to sell tickets, and quickly, but they are not interested in Eagles fans' buying them.
The Eagles "are promoting heavily in that market to come to Minnesota," said Steve LaCroix, the Vikings' vice president of sales and marketing. "You need to remind them that it was 8 below this morning, so maybe that will help keep them away. They're promoting 'Come to Minnesota, turn the purple stadium green,' and obviously we want to counter that and make sure we maintain our home-field advantage."
Not since the Miami Dolphins failed to sell out their stadium in 2002 has an NFL postseason game been blacked out. The Vikings have not had a TV blackout since the regular-season finale in 1997 against Indianapolis.
Ticket prices for the game range from $30 to $160.
LaCroix would not speculate on how many of the team's ticket requests had come from the Philadelphia area, but he said he was "confident" that the Vikings would sell out the Metrodome. Yesterday, the NFL granted the team a 24-hour extension on the blackout deadline, so the team has until 3:30 p.m. local time tomorrow to reach a sellout.
"It is holiday time," LaCroix said, "so you're trying to compete with people's family interests and social calendars. And it's the first [home] playoff game in eight years, so it's a big deal."
The Eagles are trying to capitalize. The home page on the team's Web site yesterday had a headline that said, "Let's turn Minneapolis green," with links to ticket-buying and travel-package Web sites. Coach Andy Reid made a plug during his news conference yesterday, encouraging fans to make the trip.
"I know there are going to be a lot of Eagles fans there," Reid said, "and I know there is an opportunity for more of them to be there, and I know that they will find their way there. We welcome every one of them that we can have sitting in the Hubert Humphrey Dome there. They brought great energy to us last week."
The Eagles had no further comment, a spokesman said.
 
Let it go green, just show the game cause I got two in college and I don't want to follow them to Fargo to see the game.
 
Besides if this team is as good as I think they are they could overcome it anyway.
 
I could give a crap if Jared Allen or anyone else's feelings are hurt. Don't get me wrong I love Jared and the rest of the guys, this is a very likable team, but face it boys you have priced yourself out of the common man's market. Rally time for you to pay us to watch or deal with it feeling like a road game.[8|]



marty -> RE: NFL News (1/1/2009 6:54:58 PM)

Tim
 
Happy New Year!  Remember the 'sway' therories are just for fun and for conversation, but sometimes .... sometimes you gotta wonder...

Yes I was WRONG on Favre, but I do NOT worship Packer players. 

When you watch ANY teams entire season, you can have a tendency to think their players are better than someone who doesn't.  But it also might give you a more realistic picture, just like I trust you guys' and gals' opinions (collectively) on the Vikes more than my own as I can't always catch their games. 

Anyone who doesn't think Charles Woodson deserved to be in the Pro Bowl this year did NOT watch all the Packer games.  He DEFINITELY deserves to be there, and should have been in there last year instead of Al Harris.  I'm not sure S Nick Collins deserves to be there this year. 

This is kind of funny: A friend of mine, who WAS a Packer fan decided for fun a few years ago that he would just pick a team that hadn't been successful for a while, and decided he would be their fan.  He picked the Jets, got a nice Jets jacket and would go to a sports bar to watch them every week.  He read up on the Jets, and would tell me how great so and so was (several of those players aren't even with the team anymore), and that they just needed to improve on a couple of positions in the draft or FA.  I wish I could have talked to him this year since Favre went to them, haven't had the chance.           

Favre
 
Yes, I CAN admit I was wrong on Favre.  My feeling that he would give the Vikes what they needed was NOT because of media hype, he played VERY well last season, and was a big part of the 13-3 season for the Packers.  Favre played above average in the middle of THIS season, helping to beat the Patriots and Titans on the road, but below average since then.  An AVERAGE QB probably would have gotten the Vikes to the post season, and that is what he was, but I do agree that he PROBABLY would have blown it in the post season.

I'm HAPPY to be wrong on Favre, and find it comical what is happening in NY where the coach was fired (maybe the Vikes will get Mangini ?).  I hope Favre plays another 5 years, and brings some other teams down, as long as it is NOT the Vikes.   





marty -> RE: NFL News (1/1/2009 7:01:56 PM)

Jared Allen, the Vike fans are NOT Chiefs' fans and need to be shown that this year wasn't a FLUKE that they are in the playoffs.
 
I don't think it WAS a fluke, I think the Vikes have something special and need to show it to the fans.  Remember when the Vikes got REALLY fired up for a home game against the Pack about 10 years ago, insisting "this is OUR house", being insulted at all the Packer fans being there ?  It needs to happen again.    
 
Here is something I posted to a NY Giants' fan on a different message board when he was making fun of the Vikes not selling out this weekend :

It's not QUANTITY of fan support, it's QUALITY. (Remember Spinal Tap ?, "Our appeal has become more selective.")

I think the Vikes can definitely give the Giants a game should a rematch occur in the NFL Championship.  I would not even be surprised to see the Vikings win.
This years' Vikings team has surprised me on several occasions.  I'm not getting as surprised anymore.  They make up for perceived weaknesses at QB and HC with something called TOUGHNESS and GUTS.  Something the Giants showed last year.

I woudn't even be surprised to see the Vikings beat the Giants in the NFC Championship with GUTS Frerotte at QB.   



Tim Cady -> RE: NFL News (1/1/2009 7:47:26 PM)

marty,

Explain.....Nick Collins......fantasy stat dream and intinct for the ball......Woodson....yawn,,,,but I did not watch every game........



marty -> RE: NFL News (1/1/2009 8:07:37 PM)

Collins DID make picks, good hands, but he also got beat plenty, and sometimes missed plays against the run.  He was decent, I just think it was probably a down year for safeties in the NFC. 

Woodson, OTOH, rarely got beat, and also made some AMAZING plays, good fundamentals, good at stopping the run when it came his way.  It took a REALLY good throw to beat Woodson, which is what we seen sometimes because the Packers did NOT get pressure on the side opposite Kampmann as KGB tanked.

It was NOT aging CBs being the problem for the Pack, that is a myth.  Harris missed plenty of the season and was beat several times when in there, he did last year as well, he would get beat plenty of times when his cheating after 5 yards didn't do enough.  Harris is over-rated in the 1st place.  Tramon Williams was inconsistent this year, made some plays, but also beat plenty.  The Packer LBers were also beat plenty against the pass, and got worse when Barnett went down.  The replacement for Bigby was also beat plenty.    

I AM hoping AGE becomes a concern next year for Woodson and Harris, I want that myth to become a REALITY next year ! 



John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 8:01:12 AM)

Brett Favre has had a Terrell Owens like effect on the JETS:
quote:


More Favre Debate Wins say Brett Favre. Stats say Aaron Rodgers. Neither made the playoffs. So who had the better year? It depends on how you measure it. Woj.

• Jets' Jones: Favre needed benching | Watch
• Watch Countdown Daily: Favre-Jets controversy


His selfishness and poor play and destroyed that team.  And Vikings fans wanted him here?



Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 8:46:34 AM)

No.... In fact we almost had a war here because of the Favre lovers on the board. I noticed they went away (except marty) and I didn't even get to say good-bye to 'em.



Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 9:05:20 AM)

Favre Exposed
Thu Jan 1, 2009

ESPN's Tim Graham notes that Showtime's "Inside the NFL" analyst Cris Collinsworth said the curtain has been pulled back on Jets QB Brett Favre. "I think [Favre] got discovered," Collinsworth said. "When he was good in Green Bay it was short, quick throws that he got out of his hand quickly. But if he had to, he could go down the field with deep threats at wide receivers. The Jets didn't have those same deep threats and Brett didn't have the same arm he had when he was in Green Bay. That combination finally got exposed and it cost them."



Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 9:06:59 AM)

Jets Locker Room Resented Aloof Favre
Thu Jan 1, 2009

ESPN's Tim Graham reports an unnamed New York Jets player said QB Brett Favre received preferential treatment and never bothered to socialize with his teammates from the time he arrived in a trade from the Green Bay Packers. "There was a lot of resentment in the room about [Favre]," said the anonymous Jet, who didn't want to be identified because Jets owner Woody Johnson and GM Mike Tannenbaum have publicly stated they would like Favre to return for 2009. The Jets will allow prospective coaches to determine whether they want Favre. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer reported on Sunday morning Favre didn't like the way HC Eric Mangini treated the legendary quarterback. The unnamed source scoffed at that notion. "If he was hurt by that stuff, I'd be shocked, because Eric barely said anything to him," the player said. "Guys would be getting called out for missed assignments or blown coverages, and Brett would have three picks and no one would say a word."



Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 9:07:45 AM)

Urlacher Tired of Criticism
Thu Jan 1, 2009

ESPN's Kevin Seifert reports Chicago Bears MLB Brian Urlacher continues to express his honest opinion in the local media. Two weeks after saying he was having a "pretty solid" season and diminishing the Pro Bowl as a "popularity contest," Urlacher told the Chicago Tribune that he shouldn't get blamed for the Bears' defensive collapse in 2008. "I'm tired of criticism that is unwarranted. People who say stuff about me, they don't know our defense. They don't know football. Yes, I wish I would have made a lot more big plays. Obviously, everyone could say that on our defense. I wish I was around the ball more, but I wasn't. Just the way things worked out this season." With apparent sarcasm, Urlacher added: "Every long touchdown we gave up this season, it was my fault. Every time a receiver caught a pass for a touchdown, it was my fault, too. In Atlanta, when the guy caught that pass that allowed them to kick the field goal, that was my fault."



Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 9:08:36 AM)

Ah... Girl-lacker and Hillbilly Cheese Chucker both making headlines. Life is good. [&:]



Trekgeekscott -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 9:21:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

Jets Locker Room Resented Aloof Favre
Thu Jan 1, 2009

ESPN's Tim Graham reports an unnamed New York Jets player said QB Brett Favre received preferential treatment and never bothered to socialize with his teammates from the time he arrived in a trade from the Green Bay Packers. "There was a lot of resentment in the room about [Favre]," said the anonymous Jet, who didn't want to be identified because Jets owner Woody Johnson and GM Mike Tannenbaum have publicly stated they would like Favre to return for 2009. The Jets will allow prospective coaches to determine whether they want Favre. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer reported on Sunday morning Favre didn't like the way HC Eric Mangini treated the legendary quarterback. The unnamed source scoffed at that notion. "If he was hurt by that stuff, I'd be shocked, because Eric barely said anything to him," the player said. "Guys would be getting called out for missed assignments or blown coverages, and Brett would have three picks and no one would say a word."


Favre did this in Green Bay too.  He got away with it. 

He's never really been a team player.  When they first drafted Aaron Rodgers somebody asked him if he was going to mentor the lad...he basically said that isn't what he was being paid to do. 




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 9:40:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

Jets Locker Room Resented Aloof Favre
Thu Jan 1, 2009

ESPN's Tim Graham reports an unnamed New York Jets player said QB Brett Favre received preferential treatment and never bothered to socialize with his teammates from the time he arrived in a trade from the Green Bay Packers. "There was a lot of resentment in the room about [Favre]," said the anonymous Jet, who didn't want to be identified because Jets owner Woody Johnson and GM Mike Tannenbaum have publicly stated they would like Favre to return for 2009. The Jets will allow prospective coaches to determine whether they want Favre. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer reported on Sunday morning Favre didn't like the way HC Eric Mangini treated the legendary quarterback. The unnamed source scoffed at that notion. "If he was hurt by that stuff, I'd be shocked, because Eric barely said anything to him," the player said. "Guys would be getting called out for missed assignments or blown coverages, and Brett would have three picks and no one would say a word."


Funny, all those years people called Moss the C word and Favre is the real infestitation



Guest -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 9:45:52 AM)

Honestly, there has never been a professional athlete that has had so much media hype and lies to define his entire career.  So many people sucked it up, I can't believe it. 



Trekgeekscott -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 9:57:29 AM)

Ok...here comes the board's first controversial statement of the year.

I truly believe that if Favre were black...he would never have been given the passes he's been given over the years by the press.



Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 10:17:59 AM)

The best thing that happened to our team in 2008 is we didn't sign that loser......



John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 10:52:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pete C

Honestly, there has never been a professional athlete that has had so much media hype and lies to define his entire career.  So many people sucked it up, I can't believe it. 


BINGO

He is one of the most overrated players in the history of sports.

He is not the Babe Ruth of football - he is Cal Ripken but with Terrell Owens personality and Ray Lewis' media excuses.

What I dislike more than the media fawning over him is how he fakes so much and no one ever calls him on it.



John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 12:10:19 PM)

Matt "scott mitchell II" Cassel doesn't belong in the playoffs

New England lost by 25 at home to Miami and by 23 at home to Pittsburgh, and allowed Brett Favre to convert a third-and-15 pass in overtime Nov. 13, leading to an overtime win by the Jets in Foxboro. So while there's little doubt they're one of the best teams ever to not make the playoffs, they're hardly the '85 Bears. Or even the '07 Patriots.



So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 12:50:04 PM)

Gott alove the modern athlete.
Its all-Favre all the time.
He's the lead story even now, after not making the playoffs.
Edge James is the lead story today, says he wants out of Arizona and won't honor contract next year.
Team hasn't been in playoffs for 10 years, and THAT is what they get to talk about.
Locker-room justice needs a return. In a big way.
Fran Tarkenton was mouthy and opinionated. But he'd only get so many words out before his larger teammates put the kabosh on him.
At least the Jets had enough balls to bring King Brett out in the light.
Who wants to be aorund that kind of crap?
Worst part is, the hype next year for will-Brett or won't-Brett will be just as intense. It's sick.
 



Lynn G. -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/2/2009 1:43:12 PM)

The only good thing, Scott, is that now all of the Favre news is pretty much NEGATIVE news. He's being exposed for what we've been saying he was for years, and now the sheep are being led to his slaughter.



Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/3/2009 12:22:12 PM)

    Mangini Forced to Accept Favre
    Fri Jan 2, 2009

    The Star Ledger reports famed boxing trainer Teddy Atlas, who was a special assistant under now fired New York Jets HC Eric Mangini and is very close to the former Jets coach, said Friday on WEPN radio (1050 AM) that QB Brett Favre was "forced down the throat of Mangini." Atlas said the team was built to run the ball and the arrival of Favre, a move he said was driven by owner Woody Johnson, was the "antithesis of what Mangini really believes in." Atlas also said Johnson "looked like he had a love affair with (Favre). He got all excited. He's a guy who doesn't understand football but he understands PSLs and selling those PSLs and Favre was brought in." Atlas called Favre "a very selfish player" and a "separatist."



So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/3/2009 2:19:01 PM)

Breaking news from ESPN ....
Tony Dungy may, or may not, retire at the end of the season. [sm=doh2.gif]

Now that there is some in-depth stuff.
They needed one of the games to start early today, they are out of material, and are getting stupider by the minute.  [&:]



Jim Frenette -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/3/2009 3:48:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: So.Mn.Fan

Breaking news from ESPN ....
Tony Dungy may, or may not, retire at the end of the season. [sm=doh2.gif]

Now that there is some in-depth stuff.
They needed one of the games to start early today, they are out of material, and are getting stupider by the minute.  [&:]


Bret Favre of the coaching staff



John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (1/3/2009 6:03:57 PM)

I thouight that was a great piece on him

Indy's HS grad rate is 19%!!!!

HolyuS



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