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Troy Newell -> RE:Mike Vick case (8/24/2007 1:22:29 PM)
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[quote="Easy E"][quote="Troy Newell"][quote="Easy E"] I'm not saying dogfighting should be legal, just that the animals we do decide can be killed for sport is kinda arbitrary at times. I'm fine with killing deer (or even bear, elk, etc) and not dogs, but I can see where some might think the two are similar.[/quote] I can't. Cats and Dogs are a special category of animals. Lots and lots of people treat their cats and dogs almost but not quite the same as they do their children. Once people start sharing their beds with deer, bears, and the like, maybe I could change my mind, but not until then.[/quote] Like I said, I make the distinction myself, I see the difference. I believe Vick should see the inside of jail and be banned from the NFL. I'm just saying the feelings we have are kind of arbitrary. In some countries dogs are nothing special and are used for food just like cows. In fact, some countries revere cows more than we do dogs. They think we're sick for killing cows... are they right? Is the issue the type of animal? Cuz people make pets out of geese, ducks, rabbits, etc, but we seem to be ok with hunting and killing them. Or is it the treatment of the animals? And if it's the treatment of animals, why are we ok with the truly sick torture we inflict on animals (including cats and dogs) in the name of "science", i.e. cosmetics. Or the horrid conditions of certain animals, like chickens and veal calves? Or is it the special combination? I guess that's kind of it. If you substituted cocks instead of pitbulls, would it/should it be the same? I would never, ever consider treating a dog or cat that way, and I've donated money to causes that fight inhumane treatement of animals. I just wonder if everyone that is disgusted by Vick thinks about those same things. I think a lot of the posters here do, but I don't think a lot of others do.[/quote] I do understand what you are saying. While I believe that the line is drawn at cats and dogs for most people, there are also plenty of others that have their own lines as well. When I was a child, my grandfather operated a dairy farm and I grew up right behind it. He could literally name his cows and still eat them when the time came. I love beef, but will not touch veal. Part of the reason is emotional, I have actually bottle feed baby cows when I was little, part is practical, that allowing a cow to grow up feeds many more people. On the other side of the coin, I will not hesitate to put a loved pet down IF it is suffering and has no chance to recover and is only very slowly and painfully dying, for which I have been called a horrible person by some people that don't believe you should ever put a pet down.
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