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Lynn G. -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/2/2008 3:11:46 PM)



The girl is owned by Harrison, but he claims he did not shoot it. [&:]

Whoops!  I should always proofread before I hit "OK."

I meant the gun, of course.  [;)]

DeLain -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/2/2008 3:55:02 PM)



More info (but no link yet).

It was in a bar that Marvin Harrison owns in Philly - a patron became a problem.  The guy ran out, Harrison followed him, gunfire ensued - the guy's hand was hit and flying glass from the car that was also hit by gunfire hit a little girl.

The girl is owned by Harrison, but he claims he did not shoot it.

What are the laws against owning a girl?  Is that in the abduction/kidknapping category?  Or is "owning" a girl worse?


Lynn G. -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/2/2008 4:03:23 PM)

Let's just pretend for the purposes of this thread that he has a name for all 25 of his guns, and this one he had named "girl." 


Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/3/2008 8:20:17 AM)

    More on Marvin Harrison Shooting Incident
    Fri May 2, 2008

    In a follow-up to our earlier story, ESPN reports Indianapolis Colts WR Marvin Harrison is under investigation in his hometown of Philadelphia in a shooting that took place earlier this week, a source close to the investigation told Anthony Gargano of Philadelphia's WIP Radio. The shooting reportedly occurred early Tuesday afternoon outside a North Philadelphia bar owned by Harrison. Harrison has yet to be arrested or charged with the crime. Police spokesman Sgt. Ray Evers had no comment Friday. "I just walked off the practice field [at rookie minicamp] and heard about the incident, and that's all I know," Colts HC Tony DungyGreg Aiello said Friday. "We're obviously going to look into it. I haven't spoken to Marvin yet." NFL spokesman said the league was "aware of the report, and we are looking into it." The source said the alleged victim came into the bar, Playmakers, around 5 p.m. and engaged in an argument with Harrison, who was at the bar. The victim then left the bar, heading to his car, with Harrison following. Gunfire broke out, the victim was hit in the hand, and a young girl was slightly injured by flying glass from a car that apparently was hit by a bullet. Police came to scene, but the victim did not identify a shooter. On Wednesday, according to the source, ballistic tests showed that the gun that had fired the shots was a custom-made Belgian weapon, and police determined that Harrison owned such a gun. Police then went to a Philadelphia car wash owned by Harrison to question him about the gun. Harrison admitted owning such a weapon, but claimed it never left his suburban Philadelphia home. However, the source said the gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed that it had fired seven bullets that matched those found at the scene. The source said police were contacted Friday by an attorney representing a second alleged victim in the shooting, and police are now waiting for that individual to come forward.

Mark Duda -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/3/2008 2:20:29 PM)



More info (but no link yet).

It was in a bar that Marvin Harrison owns in Philly - a patron became a problem.  The guy ran out, Harrison followed him, gunfire ensued - the guy's hand was hit and flying glass from the car that was also hit by gunfire hit a little girl.

The girl is owned by Harrison, but he claims he did not shoot it.

I would never shoot ANY of the girls I own. Usually a sharp knock on top of their head is enough to shut 'em up for awhile.

Lynn G. -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/3/2008 3:19:49 PM)

Okay, [sm=killinme.gif]

I was clearly having a [sm=blondmoment.gif]

Here's what I looked like when I posted that ...  [sm=yawn.gif]

And here's what I look like now ....   [sm=tease.gif]

Todd M -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/3/2008 3:26:41 PM)

I wonder if in future lead articles on Harrison they will say things like....autograph seeker chocking, gun toting Marvin Harrison did such and such like they do with Randy Moss the former traffic cop bumping, blue moon smoker did such and such.

So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/4/2008 10:27:09 AM)

Bears running back Cedric Benson, the fourth overall pick in the 2005 NFL draft, was charged with boating while intoxicated and resisting arrest Saturday night near Austin, Texas, according to a published report.

Both charges are misdemeanors.
Benson, who starred at the University of Texas, failed a field sobriety test on his boat, a Lower Colorado River Authority spokesman told the Chicago Tribune.
When police tried to get Benson to take the sobriety test on land, Benson resisted and refused to put on a life jacket, police told the newspaper.
According to the report, there were 12-15 people on Benson's boat, but the running back was the only one arrested.
Last season, Benson played in only 11 games for the Bears due to injury and gained 674 yards for a career-low 3.4 yards per carry average. He did have a career-best 123 receiving yards in 2007.

Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/6/2008 10:41:39 AM)

Benson Combative According to Police Report
Tue May 6, 2008

The Chicago Sun-Times reports Bears RB Cedric Benson appeared drunk when an officer stopped him while boating last weekend, with bloodshot eyes, a "strong" alcohol odor and slurred speech, a police report said. Sgt. Leonard Snyder, who pepper-sprayed and arrested Benson on Lake Travis near Austin, Texas, said he surmised Benson was intoxicated because he was "combative," "cocky," "insulting," and used "profanity." At times, he was "crying" and "cooperative," Snyder wrote. After failing sobriety tests administered by Snyder, an officer with the Lower Colorado River Authority, Benson refused to come ashore for more tests and "stood up from the position where I had him seated and suggested I could not tell him what to do," the report said. After informing him he was under arrest and about to be handcuffed, "I touched his body in an attempt to direct him and he presented himself in a very hostile way," Snyder wrote. "Benson is a very muscular person and easily capable of overpowering me. As I had exhausted all attempts to gain control of Benson, and been met with resistance and what I perceived as a threat, I administered pepper spray into Benson's face to gain control." Snyder stopped Benson's 30-foot Cobalt boat Saturday night for a safety inspection, according to the report. Benson said he was cooperative and sober, that he was manhandled, and that he gets stopped every time his boat goes out. Benson's attorney, Brian Carney, likened the treatment of Benson to waterboarding, after authorities sprayed his face to cleanse him of pepper spray. "As much as he would like to feel special, it's not just Cedric Benson. People get stopped all the time," said Roger Wade of the Travis County Sheriff's Office, called to assist in the arrest. The popular lake has steep underwater drops and has already had four drownings this year, Wade said. Benson is facing misdemeanor charges of boating while intoxicated and resisting arrest.
Don't you just love a drunk that starts bawlin'? [&o]

Lynn G. -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/6/2008 11:22:43 AM)

For the record, the officer had every right to administer pepper spray to a subject that was uncooperative and a physical threat.  Officers are trained to end things as quickly as possible so that no one (including the suspect) gets injured.  The sooner you bring someone under control, the better the resolution.

Benson's version is, of course, quite different as he says he was respectful and cooperative.  He said that he cooperated with the sobriety test on the boat but when the officer said he wanted to continue the tests on shore he very politely inquired as to the necessity of the tests.

I suspect the truth lies somewhere in between the two versions.

John Childress -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/8/2008 5:50:55 AM)


Wednesday, May 7, 2008
6ABC jock tells radio station that shooting victim planned to whack Marvin Harrison, website reports

6ABC Sports Anchor Keith Russell has reportedly supplied shocking and as yet wholly unsubstantiated details to a Florida radio station about last week's shooting linked to Indianapolis Colts and Roman Catholic football star Marvin Harrison. Harrison is being investigated by Philadelphia police following the April 29 shooting in which a gun he owns was used to shoot a man who had just beaten him up, in the hand. According to ProFootballTalk, Russell appeared with Jason Jackson on Miami's WQAM, and said his sources tell him that the man who was shot had come to carry out a gangland-style hit on Harrison. According to the website, Russell said during the segment that the issue relates to Harrison’s father, who Russell told the radio station was incarcerated, and that the supposed “hit” was related to something in which Harrison's father was supposedly involved. However, according to this 1999 article from the Sporting News, Harrison's father died when he was 2. The as yet-unidentified 32-year-old man was shot around Thompson Street near 25th in North Philadelphia after a fight with Harrison, police sources have said. The fight may have stemmed from the victim being kicked out of Playmakers, a bar that Harrison owns, on 28th Street near Cambridge, a few weeks earlier, the People Paper's David Gambacorta has reported. Efforts to reach Russell have been unsuccessful. A 6ABC spokeswoman declined comment but says it is looking into the matter.  

Lynn G. -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/8/2008 8:05:59 AM)

The Harrison thing is starting to sound like a very badly written dime novel.

Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/8/2008 8:17:04 AM)

Pulp fiction....

Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/13/2008 9:11:03 AM)

Marvin Harrison Tells Colts He Wasn't Involved in Shooting
Mon May 12, 2008

ESPN reports while the investigation continues, WR Marvin Harrison told the Indianapolis Colts that he was not involved in a shooting last month in Philadelphia. The Indianapolis Star reports that Harrison delivered that message to coach Tony Dungy and team president Bill Polian. A gun that Harrison owned has been linked to the shooting in the player's hometown in which a man suffered a gunshot wound to his hand and a small boy was cut on the face by flying glass from a windshield. "At this point I'm keeping my fingers crossed," owner Jim Irsay said, according to the newspaper. "We've done everything we could do in our diligence to try to discern what happened. He said he was not involved in that shooting and & the authorities have said there is nothing imminent. You hope these things hold up to be true, that there won't be any charges and there wasn't any involvement. Until we hear more, this isn't even a case of innocent until proven guilty because there hasn't been a charge yet."

Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/13/2008 9:11:27 AM)

No Death Penalty for Sean Taylor's Killers
Mon May 12, 2008

AP reports prosecutors said Monday they will not seek the death penalty against four people charged with murdering Washington Redskins S Sean Taylor because the accused shooter was a minor when the crime was committed. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that people cannot be executed for crimes committed when they're under 18, and it's a well established legal principle that others involved in the same case as a minor cannot face the ultimate penalty if they are less directly responsible. Assistant State Attorney Reid Rubin filed notice Friday that the death penalty will be waived. That means the four suspects could get a maximum of life in prison if convicted of first-degree murder after a trial scheduled to begin Aug. 25.

Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/14/2008 9:03:54 AM)

Brian Williams Denies Allegations
Wed May 14, 2008

The Florida Times-Union reports according to notes kept by Jacksonville police officer E.E. Bridges, Jacksonville Jaguars CB Brian Williams went on a sexist, racist and profane rant when he was taken to the police station after being arrested on a DUI charge in September of 2006. Bridges also said that Williams called the woman he was with a derogatory name and said he could have sex with her if the officer let him go. However, Williams denied the allegations Tuesday. "It's all false," he said. "It's not true at all. In the end, it will all come out. That's all I've got to say about it." Williams first pleaded guilty, then withdrew his plea. He said he doesn't know what the next step in the proceedings will be.

Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (5/28/2008 3:34:06 PM)

Sauerbrun Scheduled to Go on Trial Today
Wed May 28, 2008

The Rocky Mountain News reports former Denver Broncos P Todd Sauerbrun (5-10, 215) is scheduled to go on trial today in Denver County Court on charges stemming from an altercation with a taxi driver last December. The cabbie, Saul Cast, accused Sauerbrun of smacking him in the back of the head, and verbally abusing him after he picked up the punter in his Metro Taxi outside the Ocean bar in Cherry Creek. "He was extremely vulgar and rough," Cast said of Sauerbrun. In February, Sauerbrun, 35, pleaded not guilty to charges of assault and disturbing the peace. He said he never touched Cast, whom he said was "looking for a payday." According to Cast, a bouncer from the bar escorted an intoxicated Sauerbrun to his cab, and that Sauerbrun backhanded him while ordering him to turn off the car stereo. Cast said he complied, but that Sauerbrun continued haranguing him to the point that he drove to the Denver Police District 3 substation on South University Boulevard and ordered the kicker out of the car. Sauerbrun refused, according to Cast, until a police officer heard the commotion. Sauerbrun was cited for violating the city's municipal ordinance, and was ticketed for simple assault, disturbing the peace and failure to pay the $8.35 cab fare. Police then transported him to a detox facility. Although Sauerbrun called Cast's claim "a false allegation," the Broncos released the three-time Pro Bowler days after the incident became public. Sauberun, who handled punting and kick-off duties before his release, has had a troubled off-field history since he came into the league out of West Virginia University in 1995. He was named, along with several other members of the Carolina Panthers, as using steroids during the team's 2003 NFC conference championship season. In 2004, he was arrested for driving while impaired, speeding and driving without a license in Charlotte, N.C., and received a one-year probationary sentence. In 2006, as a Broncos player, the NFL suspended him for four games after he tested positive for the banned dietary supplement ephedra. The Broncos subsequently released him, and he played briefly for the New England Patriots before resigning with the Broncos prior to the 2007 season.

Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (6/9/2008 9:02:05 AM)

Cedric Benson Claims to Have Aced Field Sobriety Test
Mon Jun 9, 2008

The Chicago Tribune reports Bears RB Cedric Benson had nothing to say about his latest arrest on alcohol-related charges after being reached by phone Sunday evening. He did say the latest episode in his turbulent off-season will not prevent him from participating in organized team activities Monday. According to a police arrest affidavit obtained by the Austin American-Statesman, an Austin officer saw a silver BMW with Texas plates cross three lanes from the right lane and come to a quick stop Saturday. The driver, Benson, failed to signal, and when the car stopped, a pedestrian jumped out of the way, according to the affidavit. Benson, who told police he had one mixed drink of vodka and 7UP, had a strong odor of alcohol, bloodshot and glassy eyes, and a talkative and cocky attitude, according to the affidavit. He was unable to keep his balance without swaying and staggered while he walked, the affidavit said. Benson's lawyer, Sam Bassett, said his client had 2-3 alcoholic drinks but performed well on the field sobriety tests, which he said were video recorded and will exonerate Benson when made public. WMAQ-Ch. 5 reported Sunday night in a blog on its Web site that Benson sent a text message to reporter Peggy Kusinski, who is on maternity leave, declaring, "I aced the field test, check the video."    In most states the field test is all bullshit anyway. They can use your lack of balance, stumbling, whatever as probable cause to make you blow but good luck getting a conviction without the breathalyzer or blood test. Iowa cops have to wait 15 minutes after they pull you over to make you blow. The toe-to-toe, finger tips to nose, etc. is a time killer while they hope you do something stupid.

Lynn G. -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (6/9/2008 9:29:44 AM)

The problem with Benson's self-evaluation is that some of the Field Sobriety Tests go well beyond things like balance, which can vary from person to person.   And some are court accepted as strong indicators of an alcohol content even without the breathalyzer.

One of those that I'm thinking about is called horizontal gaze nystagmus.   That's the one where the officer will get the subject to follow the path of his pen as he moves it in front of the subject's face.   The subject is instructed to hold his head still and only move his eyes.

You have no control over this one and can't fake it.    A sober person's eyes will track the pen with smooth movement of the eyes, but an impaired person's eyes will jerk all over the place.   Often the subject thinks they have done just fine on the "test" but the officer gets a very clear sign of impairment.

Here's a little description:


HGN Testing

Horizontal gaze nystagmus is an involuntary jerking of the eyeball which occurs naturally as the eyes gaze to the side. Under normal circumstances, nystagmus occurs when the eyes are rotated at high peripheral angles. However, when a person is impaired by alcohol, nystagmus is exaggerated and may occur at lesser angles. An alcohol-impaired person will also often have difficulty smoothly tracking a moving object. In the HGN test, the officer observes the eyes of a suspect as the suspect follows a slowly moving object such as a pen or small flashlight, horizontally with his eyes. The examiner looks for three indicators of impairment in each eye: if the eye cannot follow a moving object smoothly, if jerking is distinct when the eye is at maximum deviation, and if the angle of onset of jerking is within 45 degrees of center. If, between the two eyes, four or more clues appear, the suspect likely has a BAC of 0.10 or greater. NHTSA research indicates that this test allows proper classification of approximately 77 percent of suspects. HGN may also indicate consumption of seizure medications, phencyclidine, a variety of inhalants, barbiturates, and other depressants.

Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (6/9/2008 10:08:36 AM)

Yep. That's why you just stare straight at the cop. It pisses 'em off but that's life.

They don't need to waste your time with that crap anyhow.  They can just say you swerving or whatever.

I did the dance for a rookie cop one night. It was hilarious. I got pulled over in town, 3 miles from where "I supposedly" was seen by an off duty cop running a country road stop sign.

I was DD that night and stone ass sober. The punk cop was trying to be a tough guy cause my boys were feeling pretty good and  kind of hooting him. I told him I wasn't drinking, he said he didn't believe me. So then he said he wanted me to take a couple of the field tests.

I said, "Yeah, seems like you still gotta wait 12 minutes to make me blow."

That pissed him off. [&:] Then he told me to walk 15 paces heel to toe, turn and comeback 15 paces in a straight line. I said, "I don't know what you mean. Show me."

So the cop walks 4 paces heel to toe, turns and walks back 4 paces. So then I did 4 paces back and forth. He said, "I said 15!' I said, "I did what you did, show me!" [&:]

Then he does 15 and back sliding around in his slippery shoes and then I did it for him, perfectly.

Next was stand on one foot and count to 20. I said, "Show me." The cop tries to do it and loses his balance. [&:]
So I say, "Want me to stumble like that too?" [&:] Then I stand on one foot and count to 40 sumthin' when he finally says I can stop.  I said, "I can do this all night, sir."

There's an older cop with this rookie punk and he's trying not to laugh. I mean the guy literally has his hand over his mouth. The guys in my truck are laughing and the cop tells them to stop or they're going to jail. They stopped, at least I didn't hear much from them after that.

So then junior does the eye flutter bullshit you posted above. I stare right into his face. He's telling me to follow the light, I keep staring straight at him and saying, "I am!"

By now he's really pissed. He tells me I have to blow now. I said, "I did the tests better than you, why should I. Oh, it's been 15 minutes all ready?"

Then he says, "If you don't,  I'll take you in right now for refusing. "

So I blow and it's clean, I hadn't drank anything but one beer over 6 hours earlier.

So Barney says, "Well, you passed."

I said, "Want me try again, you seem dissapointed." [&:]

Then he gives me a ticket for the stop sign thing that was bullshit too. He said I can challenge the ticket in court if I want to. So I asked him when his day off was. Cops hate going to traffic court on their days off. [:'(]

Anyhow, when I left I told my buddies they were lucky that they shut up when they did 'cause he could've popped 'em for interference.

I didn't run the stop sign, I wasn't speeding, had nothing to drink, no smell of alcohol or drugs, NOTHING. I "aced" the tests the baby cop couldn't even do and he still made me blow. Poor little fellow was trying to get a little boner playing tough guy. He got "OWNED" [&:]

I paid the $45 bucks, piss on it. I hate cops.

Lynn G. -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (6/9/2008 11:04:44 AM)


Inability to follow the instructions on the Field Sobriety Test is one of the indicators of impairment.   In your case, your impairment was stubborness.   [:D]


I hate cops.

I pray you never need one in an emergency.  In our town, the cops respond to medical calls long before the ambulance arrives.  In our town, cops respond to domestic abuse long before the lawyers get called, and in our town cops respond to a call of shots fired long before the funeral arrangements can be made for someone killed by a guy with a gun.  

I love cops.

Jim Frenette -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (6/9/2008 11:06:34 AM)

Lynn I worked with a guy that was pulled over and followed the instructions to a tee. The cop told him to go over to the curb and touch his nose so he walked over there, got on his knees and put his nose on the curb. [:)]

Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (6/9/2008 11:09:57 AM)

Actually, they HAVE to show you the tests if you ask. Maybe not extremely like I did. I was just pissed that I told him the truth straight up and he still wasted my time.

There had to be a cat stuck in a tree or something. [&:]

I don't hate all cops, I used to have a thing for Jaclyn Smith when she was one of Charlie's Angels. [:'(]

Lynn G. -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (6/9/2008 11:14:22 AM)

Near the end of my dad's life he took a couple of falls at home and my mom was not strong enough to help him back up.   Each time she called 911 and it was a cop, not a DJ, not an accountant, not a grocery store clerk - but a cop who came and helped him back up and back into bed.   My mom expressed embarrassment that she called them for something like that, but each time they were extremely kind and compassionate and told her to call them anytime and they were happy to help.

I love cops.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: RE:Police Blotter (6/9/2008 11:19:19 AM)

Cops are good, but as in any other organization, there are good ones and others that are not so good.  Some let the power or control of their badge go to their heads a bit.  And there are bad cops.  Plus you have to look at a person's life experiences with cops too.  I know black guys that have been totally mistreated, just based on the color of their skin.  Where a white guy in the same situation would likely be treated with dignity and respect.  It happens quite a bit.  And it is sad. 

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