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ORIGINAL: Ben Thomas

There's no way Evans doesn't go in round 1.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ryan Taylor

It seems Jamies Winston is in some trouble (just investigating right now).


Heisman Frontrunner Reportedly Investigated For Alleged Sexual Assault

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/13/jameis-winston-sexual-assault-investigation_n_4270450.html


It also must be said that it doesn't seem that there is much of a case.




Ryan "Son of Don" Taylor

Winston's attorney, who indicated the football star had not been interviewed by police. The report did not mention Winston by name and described the suspect as between 5' 9" and 5' 11" tall and weighing 240 pounds, according to the Tallahassee Democrat. Florida State's official athletic website lists Winston as 6' 4" and 224 pounds.

He fits the description of the suspect perfectly.

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Ben Thomas

There's no way Evans doesn't go in round 1.

I think he will be the 2nd WR selected. Watkins first.

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ORIGINAL: Ben Thomas

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Ben Thomas

There's no way Evans doesn't go in round 1.

I think he will be the 2nd WR selected. Watkins first.

sounds about right.

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ORIGINAL: Ben Thomas

I am in a college fantasy football league and I happen to have both Mariota and Manziel, so I watch as many of their games as possible. Manziel is like Tarkenton was. He runs to get away from defenders. He scrambles all over the place and all the while keeps his eyes downfield waiting for his receivers to come open. When they do, he throws a nice accurate pass. Last year he got panicked a little easier and would then just take off running. This year he looks like he's really trying to stay in the pocket and pass the ball a lot more. I would love nothing more than to have the next Tarkenton in Purple! Mariota is a good passer, but he does seem to rely more on his skills as a runner. Now that his MCL is messed up a bit, we are seeing that the offense isn't quite as dynamic without his ability to just take off running. If given the choice, I take Manziel in a heart beat.

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Ben Thomas

I am in a college fantasy football league and I happen to have both Mariota and Manziel, so I watch as many of their games as possible. Manziel is like Tarkenton was. He runs to get away from defenders. He scrambles all over the place and all the while keeps his eyes downfield waiting for his receivers to come open. When they do, he throws a nice accurate pass. Last year he got panicked a little easier and would then just take off running. This year he looks like he's really trying to stay in the pocket and pass the ball a lot more. I would love nothing more than to have the next Tarkenton in Purple! Mariota is a good passer, but he does seem to rely more on his skills as a runner. Now that his MCL is messed up a bit, we are seeing that the offense isn't quite as dynamic without his ability to just take off running. If given the choice, I take Manziel in a heart beat.

As I've stated a few times, I really was trying not to like Johnny Football, but the more I watch him, he just seems to have "IT"...

And part of the "IT" is how incredibly similiar to Tarkenton he looks. He doesn't have to necessarily wind up to throw like Fran did, but he scrambles to pass...

The spin moves, are eerily the same as Tark, but the thing that has started to win me over is how freakin accurate he is. Just watch how little his receivers have to adjust to almost every ball he throws.

I could be all wet on this, and my first impression of him being a too small, weak armed, immature college systems QB could very well be what he is, but all Viking fans should do themselves a favor, and just watch this kid play a couple games....

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ORIGINAL: Ben Thomas

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Ben Thomas

I am in a college fantasy football league and I happen to have both Mariota and Manziel, so I watch as many of their games as possible. Manziel is like Tarkenton was. He runs to get away from defenders. He scrambles all over the place and all the while keeps his eyes downfield waiting for his receivers to come open. When they do, he throws a nice accurate pass. Last year he got panicked a little easier and would then just take off running. This year he looks like he's really trying to stay in the pocket and pass the ball a lot more. I would love nothing more than to have the next Tarkenton in Purple! Mariota is a good passer, but he does seem to rely more on his skills as a runner. Now that his MCL is messed up a bit, we are seeing that the offense isn't quite as dynamic without his ability to just take off running. If given the choice, I take Manziel in a heart beat.

As I've stated a few times, I really was trying not to like Johnny Football, but the more I watch him, he just seems to have "IT"...

And part of the "IT" is how incredibly similiar to Tarkenton he looks. He doesn't have to necessarily wind up to throw like Fran did, but he scrambles to pass...

The spin moves, are eerily the same as Tark, but the thing that has started to win me over is how freakin accurate he is. Just watch how little his receivers have to adjust to almost every ball he throws.

I could be all wet on this, and my first impression of him being a too small, weak armed, immature college systems QB could very well be what he is, but all Viking fans should do themselves a favor, and just watch this kid play a couple games....

He really is incredibly accurate. Especially considering how many of his passes are on the run without his feet being planted... and as I mentioned before while he is running around his eyes are always sweeping the field looking for an open receiver. Hell Ponder only looks for one receiver, even if he has 4 seconds all alone in the pocket.

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ORIGINAL: Prescott

I take issue with the Russell = Manziel comparisons.

Russell is a passing QB who is mobile and occasionally runs well. Manzeil is a running QB who can also pass well (in college at least).

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ORIGINAL: Prescott

I take issue with the Russell = Manziel comparisons.

Russell is a passing QB who is mobile and occasionally runs well. Manzeil is a running QB who can also pass well (in college at least).

It's like saying if you like John Elway, you're going to love Michael Vick or Randall Cunningham.

In 4 years of college, Russell Wilson had 1481 yards and 23 TDs. Manziel had 1410 and 21 TDs his first year. And their body types are different. Maybe not Percy Harvin/Tavon Austin different, but different enough.

Manziel might end up being a great NFL QB, but I don't think of him as a Wilson clone at all.

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ORIGINAL: Zoilo

Wilson doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would get inito off the field trouble.
Manziel may be a question mark in that area.

He is fun to watch, though.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

If I were the Vikings, I would draft two quarterbacks.

Given their past debacles on draft day, however, they will probably not take a quarterback until later in the draft when the fans are ready to put them under the guillotine.

"With the third pick in the 5th round of the 2014 NFL Draft, the Vikings select Rakeem Cato, quarterback, Marshall."

Mel Kiper chimes in: "This is a guy with some problems with his mechanics, and there is questions about his durability."

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

That last play sealed the deal on Murray to me. NO THANKS. He "avoided" the same phantom pressure Ponder does and promptly slid in to the real one. Game over.

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

Starting QB for the 2018 Minnesota Vikings

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20131117_New_Randall_on_the_rise.html

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Prescott

I take issue with the Russell = Manziel comparisons.

Russell is a passing QB who is mobile and occasionally runs well. Manzeil is a running QB who can also pass well (in college at least).

He has thrown for 3,300 yards and 31 touchdowns this season, completing 73% of his passes. I would hardly call him a running quarterback that can also pass well. He often runs because his offensive line isn't very good.