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John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 8:27:45 AM)

4 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and the only guy who looks decent is Rudolph and even he underachieved this year

No gems either from the mid rounds

2 really poor drafts

That is how you get a team that loses 10 games




Trekgeekscott -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 8:33:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

4 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and the only guy who looks decent is Rudolph and even he underachieved this year



No he didn't.  For most of the year he had Christian Ponder throwing him the ball.  Give him a better QB and he's a stud. 





Steve Lentz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 9:03:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

4 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and the only guy who looks decent is Rudolph and even he underachieved this year



No he didn't.  For most of the year he had Christian Ponder throwing him the ball.  Give him a better QB and he's a stud. 




It's pretty hard to gauge a receivers progress with the quality of our QB's.




John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 9:06:05 AM)

Do you see Rudolph open a lot and the QBs not attempting to get the ball to him?




Guest -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 9:35:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

Do you see Rudolph open a lot and the QBs not attempting to get the ball to him?



Yes, as I saw Greg Jennings running wide open all year (Especially when Ponder was back there)

I agree with Steve, it's almost impossible to gauge how any of our talent translates with this collection of QB fodder.




John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 9:37:00 AM)

I wasn't at the game so I will defer to you guys on this one




Guest -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 9:41:08 AM)

Not to beat a dead horse, but I'm not quite sure how Christian Ponder could look at anyone in the face after leaving film study on Monday mornings after the Sunday game. It appeared he constantly missed even his hot reads consistently.




Mark Anderson -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 9:43:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

Do you see Rudolph open a lot and the QBs not attempting to get the ball to him?


I've seen him make a lot of great catches in traffic.

We need a QB that can throw into tight coverage(like Rogers).




Bill Jandro -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 9:52:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

4 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and the only guy who looks decent is Rudolph and even he underachieved this year

No gems either from the mid rounds

2 really poor drafts

That is how you get a team that loses 10 games


Spielman is getting all the acolades of last years draft only cuz of 2 1st rd picks. Hard to screw up at the top of the draft but he sure f-up with Ponder. Then he trade the rest of the draft for Patt cuz he knew he was lost after the top guys were all picked

Like you say once Spielman gets out of the 1st round he's simply dreadful. You could throw darts at pictures and find better talent




drviking -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 10:03:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

4 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and the only guy who looks decent is Rudolph and even he underachieved this year



No he didn't.  For most of the year he had Christian Ponder throwing him the ball.  Give him a better QB and he's a stud. 




Rudy is very good but, IMO, he cant be elite with his speed


you can be kinda slow and still make it, but that dude is crazy slow....he can be very good, but i doubt he will every be a top 3 TE




Jim Frenette -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 10:34:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

4 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and the only guy who looks decent is Rudolph and even he underachieved this year



No he didn't.  For most of the year he had Christian Ponder throwing him the ball.  Give him a better QB and he's a stud. 




It's pretty hard to gauge a receivers progress with the quality of our QB's.


We also have to take into the OC and what plays he is calling. For all we know he is just giving the QB 2 reads. We hardly ever, repeat ever saw Ponder change the play at the los. We know he isn't dumb since he graduated in 3 yrs. could it be that our OC felt he knew what was best because we saw AP running into 8 man fronts where they should have audibled out of the run




drviking -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 10:41:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

4 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and the only guy who looks decent is Rudolph and even he underachieved this year



No he didn't.  For most of the year he had Christian Ponder throwing him the ball.  Give him a better QB and he's a stud. 




It's pretty hard to gauge a receivers progress with the quality of our QB's.


We also have to take into the OC and what plays he is calling. For all we know he is just giving the QB 2 reads. We hardly ever, repeat ever saw Ponder change the play at the los. We know he isn't dumb since he graduated in 3 yrs. could it be that our OC felt he knew what was best because we saw AP running into 8 man fronts where they should have audibled out of the run



disagree...

ponder was one of the dumbest qbs i have ever watched




Bill Jandro -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 10:43:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: drviking

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

4 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and the only guy who looks decent is Rudolph and even he underachieved this year



No he didn't.  For most of the year he had Christian Ponder throwing him the ball.  Give him a better QB and he's a stud. 




Rudy is very good but, IMO, he cant be elite with his speed


you can be kinda slow and still make it, but that dude is crazy slow....he can be very good, but i doubt he will every be a top 3 TE


This is why there is no reason to give him big money when his rookie deal is up. We can draft guys like him and plug them in like Chase Ford.
Until we land a TE with some crazy skills, like a Gronk, or a V Davis almost any guy can play that position as good as Rudy




John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 10:48:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: drviking

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

4 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and the only guy who looks decent is Rudolph and even he underachieved this year



No he didn't.  For most of the year he had Christian Ponder throwing him the ball.  Give him a better QB and he's a stud. 




It's pretty hard to gauge a receivers progress with the quality of our QB's.


We also have to take into the OC and what plays he is calling. For all we know he is just giving the QB 2 reads. We hardly ever, repeat ever saw Ponder change the play at the los. We know he isn't dumb since he graduated in 3 yrs. could it be that our OC felt he knew what was best because we saw AP running into 8 man fronts where they should have audibled out of the run



disagree...

ponder was one of the dumbest qbs i have ever watched


yeah, very little correlation between book smarts and football smarts


Terry Bradshaw or Pat Haden?!!!

Heck, Colin Kaepernick doesn't appear to be a rocket scientist in interviews but on the field would you take him or Ponder?




Mark Anderson -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 11:01:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

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ORIGINAL: drviking

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: John Childress

4 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and the only guy who looks decent is Rudolph and even he underachieved this year



No he didn't.  For most of the year he had Christian Ponder throwing him the ball.  Give him a better QB and he's a stud. 




It's pretty hard to gauge a receivers progress with the quality of our QB's.


We also have to take into the OC and what plays he is calling. For all we know he is just giving the QB 2 reads. We hardly ever, repeat ever saw Ponder change the play at the los. We know he isn't dumb since he graduated in 3 yrs. could it be that our OC felt he knew what was best because we saw AP running into 8 man fronts where they should have audibled out of the run



disagree...

ponder was one of the dumbest qbs i have ever watched


yeah, very little correlation between book smarts and football smarts


Terry Bradshaw or Pat Haden?!!!

Heck, Colin Kaepernick doesn't appear to be a rocket scientist in interviews but on the field would you take him or Ponder?

Haden was a good QB.

Bradshaw played with arguably the greatest dynasty football has ever seen.




SoMnFan -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 7:50:14 PM)

Appreciate ESPN making the game easy to see tonight. (for those of us limited to a computer)

Btw .. I think they should play every huge game in the Rose Bpwl
I've always loved that place. (for viewing)
Colorful, always in great shape, Love how close the fans seem and the old-school bowl feel to it.




Guest -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 8:11:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Appreciate ESPN making the game easy to see tonight. (for those of us limited to a computer)

Btw .. I think they should play every huge game in the Rose Bpwl
I've always loved that place. (for viewing)
Colorful, always in great shape, Love how close the fans seem and the old-school bowl feel to it.



Here here Scott! Been to two Rose Bowl games, and other then the benches it's an amazing venue...

They should have a few more Super Bowls there.




SoMnFan -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 8:24:35 PM)

Whoa!
War
Eagle

[:-]




SoMnFan -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 8:27:40 PM)

Any other B10 fans pretty sure this officiating crew will rear its ugly head before this is over?    [&:][&:]




Jon Thomas -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 9:18:09 PM)

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Wish this was mine ...

[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BabT6uICQAAvRUY.jpg[/image]


Here's the rest of the story: http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=10251632&src=desktop&wjb


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SoMnFan -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 10:59:05 PM)

Instant Classic?


Btw ... the "SpiderCam" is awesome
Watched most of it via it.
Outstanding. Best seat in the house.




Ian Joseph -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 11:13:01 PM)

Jameis Winston is my new favorite college player. I'm in awe of him and his testimony.




Guest -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 11:18:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

Jameis Winston is my new favorite college player. I'm in awe of him and his testimony.



Bandwagoner....




Ian Joseph -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 11:49:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Ian Joseph

Jameis Winston is my new favorite college player. I'm in awe of him and his testimony.



Bandwagoner....


I'll take it.. I wasn't completely sold on the complete package until his post game interview.. almost brought tears.




Ian Joseph -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (1/6/2014 11:49:52 PM)

BTW, I talked to your boy tonight, albeit briefly. I'll call him back tomorrow.




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