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John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/5/2014 8:58:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

Notre Dame is a joke and will get exposed as always eventually. I don't think Baylor/Oklahoma/Michigan State are all that either. I honestly think the 5 best teams might all be in the SEC this year. But FSU will get a lot better during the year, as usual.


No way are 5 SEC teams better than FSU, Oregon, and Baylor



djskillz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/5/2014 9:27:23 PM)

I think the 5 are better than Oregon/Baylor. And I think right now all of those 5 would beat FSU. But I think that will not be the case in a month or so.



Ricky J -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/6/2014 1:51:58 PM)

Go Hawks!



djskillz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/10/2014 8:10:36 PM)

Good thing we hopefully have our QBOTF, because I want no part of Jameis Winston. Really awful stuff. Hope someone can step up and beat FSU so we don't have to watch them in the playoffs.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 8:31:16 AM)

Some really good games to watch today. It would be a really good day for me to call in sick. The Gophers/ Northwestern game could be a pivotal game. Oregon vs. UCLA could be the best game that nobody is talking about.



John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 8:54:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

I think the 5 are better than Oregon/Baylor. And I think right now all of those 5 would beat FSU. But I think that will not be the case in a month or so.


Do you have stock in the SEC?



Bruce Johnson -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 8:59:56 AM)

I would like to buy some of that SEC stock. I agree that five teams may be better than Florida State. They do not seem to be the same team as last year. In particular, they seem to miss Kelvin Benjamin. They also had six other players who were drafted last May.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=F&collegeName=Florida+State&abbrFlag=0&type=school



John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 9:09:39 AM)

Benjamin was a huge loss

However, the defense has dropped off even more than the offense

I would make any bet you want that 5 teams could not beat FSU or Oregon

But of course we will never know unless FSU or Oregon beat a top team from the SEC in the playoffs

The SEC is greatly overrated this year

In fact, I think all of college football is down this year. I have watched FSU, Alabama, Oregon, Auburn, etc. and I think that 3 or 4 teams from last year would beat ANY team this year

no real super powers this year



djskillz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 9:26:26 AM)

Oregon? Apologies to the Oregon guys on the board, but they may not even be the best team in the Pac12 this year. They could have easily lost that game to WSU and they may lose today to UCLA. I definitely think those 5 are better. And I'm not an SEC guy at all; I just respect what they've built as a conference. I think Baylor may be the best non-SEC team this year, at least right now.

FSU is just not a very good team right now but I do expect that to change. It's too bad their entire schedule is filled with cupcakes because then we could tell if they're good or not before the playoffs.

I wonder if they may now lose a game anyway with the rape coverup swirling over them all season. Remember, they only had to deal with that for a few games last year. I loved Winston before; now, not so much.

I do agree with you about last year's teams vs. this year.



John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 9:34:29 AM)

Even the top SEC teams are not nearly as good as last year.

Also, I find McCarron's comments funny

They sure shut him down when he dared to criticze Saban



djskillz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 9:46:12 AM)

I agree those teams aren't as good this year either, but I still think they're better than the others.

McCarron was partly right. But Fran Tarkenton was dead on too; McCarron should shut up and thank Saban for having a career at all.

From everything I've heard McCarron is a grade A prick. This latest thing does nothing to refute that.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 10:13:12 AM)

I think that teams improve over the course of the season. In the end, I wouldn't be surprised if the teams this year prove to be as good as last year. It does seem to me that there are more quality teams and more quality conferences than in the past. The NFL is drafting players from teams all over.



Bill Jandro -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 12:34:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I think that teams improve over the course of the season. In the end, I wouldn't be surprised if the teams this year prove to be as good as last year. It does seem to me that there are more quality teams and more quality conferences than in the past. The NFL is drafting players from teams all over.


Very valid point. There is turnover from players leaving and younger guys have to step in and learn on the fly. In college their practice time is much more limited than the NFL.



djskillz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 3:52:46 PM)

I'm certainly not a Texas guy, but I believe in Charlie Strong. The Longhorns will be back in 1-2 years. It takes time to change the culture.



John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 4:28:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I think that teams improve over the course of the season. In the end, I wouldn't be surprised if the teams this year prove to be as good as last year. It does seem to me that there are more quality teams and more quality conferences than in the past. The NFL is drafting players from teams all over.


I don't agree

I don't see a single team in the SEC as good as Auburn or Bama were at this same point last year

Certainly FSU is not nearly as good as last year and neither is Oregon

Sometimes you just have down years

This is a down year

When have you seen so many top ranked teams lose so early?



djskillz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 4:31:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I think that teams improve over the course of the season. In the end, I wouldn't be surprised if the teams this year prove to be as good as last year. It does seem to me that there are more quality teams and more quality conferences than in the past. The NFL is drafting players from teams all over.


I don't agree

I don't see a single team in the SEC as good as Auburn or Bama were at this same point last year

Certainly FSU is not nearly as good as last year and neither is Oregon

Sometimes you just have down years

This is a down year

When have you seen so many top ranked teams lose so early?


I hear ya, JC, but to me a lot of that is:

1) Schedule. More big games early this year.
2) Depth. There's more depth in the "top" teams this year. The SEC, for example, is deeper than it's ever been. MSU/Ole Miss have never been in the national title conversation. It's early, but both are this year.



John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 5:06:40 PM)

Love seeing Miss St making hay



djskillz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 5:11:05 PM)

Oregon showed up to play today and Helfricht saved his job. Congrats Murf.



John Childress -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 6:16:27 PM)

Alabama looking a little sluggish



djskillz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 6:17:34 PM)

ND and MiSU both survive upsets. Would have loved to see both go down.



djskillz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 6:54:38 PM)

TCU completely collapses. You still have to have a running game to end a game.

58-58? The Big 12 still sucks. Refs also clearly want to give their conference a chance at having a playoff team also. Baylor's stadium is badass though.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 8:02:43 PM)

Right now Mississippi State looks like the best team in the country. I'm sorry I missed their game, today, though.



JT2 -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/11/2014 8:45:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Right now Mississippi State looks like the best team in the country. I'm sorry I missed their game, today, though.


You can certainly make that argument right now. They have already been tested, and passed. A couple more big tests coming up. They have to go to Tuscaloosa next month, and this years Egg Bowl may be one of the best games of the year. If "Good Bo" shows up for that one, that will be a great game.



DavidAOlson -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/12/2014 9:30:04 AM)

Long article on the Jameis Winston rape allegations, and the hash FSU made of the investigation.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/jameis-winston-florida-state-tallahassee-police-hindered-investigation-documents-101014?cmpid=tsmtw:fscom:foxsports



djskillz -> RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) (10/12/2014 11:14:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

Long article on the Jameis Winston rape allegations, and the hash FSU made of the investigation.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/jameis-winston-florida-state-tallahassee-police-hindered-investigation-documents-101014?cmpid=tsmtw:fscom:foxsports


This is what I was referring to yesterday. Sickening. Hard to believe nothing happened here, with this level of coverup. Reminds me a lot of the Roethlisberger coverup. Can't believe that has gotten completely glossed over over time. Just like Ray Lewis. Just keep printing money, football.



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