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twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 9:57:09 AM)

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Had been thinking that Ed .... there HAD to be a ton of guys in there pissed off about it.
Sale is trying to be some superhero, but I'm betting there are just as many guys asking "what the hell is that kid doing in here all the time?"
Like I said before, Williams simply did the hard job that no one else had the balls to do.
Even if it was agreed to at one time, it was wrong.
And no, I don't hate you Adam. But you are wrong if you think you were going to change the way things are done.


I agree 100%. Even if only one player was complaining about Drake LaRoche constantly being in the clubhouse, that is enough to consider making changes. It sounds as if this LaRoche guy is a nonconformist. Is this kid even being home-schooled? In any event, I am glad (for once) that conformity wins out and that the presumably attacked or deprived party is made an example of.

The religious right is already making LaRoche out to be the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. Why must everything be politicized?




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 3:55:09 PM)

So .... they're interviewing Girardi today during the Yanks game. They start talking about Ellsbury during one of his at-bats, he says "gotta keep this young man healthy this season" .... PLUNK!
Off to the x-ray machine.

True story. [&:]




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:13:39 PM)

Taking my chances with a few innings of the Dodgers-White Sox game. Hopefully it's not filled with Adam LaRoche discussion. I used to be kind of a closet Chris Sale fan. But his shrine to the LaRoches has turned me against him.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:17:31 PM)

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Taking my chances with a few innings of the Dodgers-White Sox game. Hopefully it's not filled with Adam LaRoche discussion. I used to be kind of a closet Chris Sale fan. But his shrine to the LaRoches has turned me against him.

Yup. Had no idea he was that big of a baby.
Taking over the Buerhle role.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:20:17 PM)

Shocker, it took about 4 minutes before Steve Stone started talking about the clubhouse atmosphere. [sm=vomit.gif][sm=vomit.gif][sm=vomit.gif]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:22:08 PM)

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Shocker, it took about 4 minutes before Steve Stone started talking about the clubhouse atmosphere. [sm=vomit.gif][sm=vomit.gif][sm=vomit.gif]

Speaking of douche-babies .....




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:22:54 PM)

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Get this. Steve Stone just relayed this quote from Chris Sale:

"Babe Ruth left the game of baseball. Baseball went on. It will go on without Adam LaRoche's son."

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SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:24:11 PM)

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Get this. Steve Stone just relayed this quote from Chris Sale:

"Babe Ruth left the game of baseball. Baseball went on. It will go on without Adam LaRoche's son."

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have you started a new year as far as outrageous statements go?

That's a winner, Bobby.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:25:44 PM)

I gotta remember to submit that one.

And it's preposterous, not outrageous. [8|]




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:28:57 PM)

For some reason the idea of going to AZ for Spring Training is more appealing to me than going to FL. Not that it matters. I can't go anywhere this time of year until I'm like 65. Sounds like the Twins are entrenched in Florida. Teams don't jump around from one state to the other these days. It's big business for those states, and they don't let teams leave very easily. Don't get me wrong - I'm sure ST is great in FL. Just seems like a more laid-back vibe when I see the Cactus League games on TV.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:30:39 PM)

I liked Arizona more.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:32:26 PM)

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I liked Arizona more.

Even though the Twins weren't there?

Were you following any particular team?




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:37:07 PM)

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I liked Arizona more.

Even though the Twins weren't there?

Were you following any particular team?

Spent two glorious days at Giants camp.
YEARS ago.
Went hoping for the opp to get within a hundred feet of my hero, Will Clark.
Cab drops me off one morning, I'm the only guy in the stadium. Take a newspaper and sit down next to the dugout.
Couple minutes later someone slaps the newspaper and starts bullshitting with me.
Yup. Will Clark. Talked for a good five minutes about a whole bunch of stuff.
Best interaction with an idol I've ever had.
Wife was on a working vacation, I got to tag along for free. Those were glorious trips. back when Schwans was swimming in cash.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:47:18 PM)

And yeah ... I had my nose so far up his jock that I completely forgot about any signatures, pictures, anything.
Didn't even carry a cellphone/selfieshooter in those days.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:56:45 PM)

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And yeah ... I had my nose so far up his jock that I completely forgot about any signatures, pictures, anything.
Didn't even carry a cellphone/selfieshooter in those days.

Oh well. The memory is the most important part.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 4:57:51 PM)

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And yeah ... I had my nose so far up his jock that I completely forgot about any signatures, pictures, anything.
Didn't even carry a cellphone/selfieshooter in those days.

Oh well. The memory is the most important part.

Absolutely
Its my favorite piece of memorabilia. But not something I can show anyone.




MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 5:33:25 PM)

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And yeah ... I had my nose so far up his jock that I completely forgot about any signatures, pictures, anything.
Didn't even carry a cellphone/selfieshooter in those days.

Oh well. The memory is the most important part.

Absolutely
Its my favorite piece of memorabilia. But not something I can show anyone.

We believe you........well.......some of it.[:D]

Actually, it is easier to believe than to wait for photos to be faxed.......remember that problem with the fax machine a few years ago?[&:]




MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 5:34:27 PM)

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I gotta remember to submit that one.

And it's preposterous, not outrageous. [8|]



You have to submit that to the contest.......have to......its a winner.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/19/2016 5:36:09 PM)

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I gotta remember to submit that one.

And it's preposterous, not outrageous. [8|]



You have to submit that to the contest.......have to......its a winner.

That, or the one where Ryan Carter is the problem on the Wild roster .... [&:]




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/20/2016 8:55:52 AM)

This Adam LaRoche thing reminded me that old show....the Corn Chip and Eddie's Father...or whatever the heck it was called

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGu0m08Etm8




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/20/2016 9:24:44 AM)

You know something.......There is no need for additional information. We already have enough information. This whole story is a dead issue.

The White Sox were right for ending their relationship with Adam and his son Drake. This is not the "Courtship of Eddie's Father" here. This is professional baseball and like in any other organization/corporation/institution it is not appropriate to have your child at your side at all times. What some people fail to understand is that although LaRoche was given the thumbs up initially on this PRIVILEGE of having his sidekick son tagging along, a PRIVILEGE is not an unconditional thing. This business about the White Sox lying to him is bunk. The problem is Williams scrambled to make an excuse for his decision and he really didn't need to--no matter how unpopular.

For LaRoche and certain White Sox to expect this arrangement to be completely unconditional is absurd. It was a privilege and apparently the White Sox felt after a year letting it play out it was too much. And it was too much. This kid has lived this odd life for years, apparently. LaRoche actually believes that rather than being among peers and developing like a normal child his son is better off under his wing to the point where stipulations needed to be made. That is not only absurd, it is borderline nuts. I am not telling him how to raise a child, but this whole thing is bonkers. What in the world gives LaRoche the right to expect and demand such special treatment?

He has tried to sell him as a "family first guy" and I think that is hogwash. He is a ME FIRST guy. He chose his own special demands over the team. The fact that Chris Sale and Adam Eaton are rushing to support LaRoche makes me shake my head. It only goes to show how these players don't want any special privilges taken away no matter how nuts they are. LaRoche is a guy who quit on himself and on the team. This is a guy who had a horrendous season and probably deep down realizes he isn't capable of playing to that contract. Instead of bowing out gracefully or listening to his boss he chose to make this into a big issue. He put his own special interests above the team. What in the world is with Eaton, Sale and the other Sox players? Move on already. Are they trying to say LaRoche was disrespected? Really?? He got more than any other able bodied employed person could ever hope for. He preformed horribly, had his son by his side (at his behest), and earned 13 million dollars on the way. Shut up and move along. Period. End of story.

The strange thing is, we have not heard a dissenting voice. I am hoping they come forward. I would guess a few players weren't comfortable with the arrangement. How could there not be? However, given way it's played out they can't for fear of being made to look like the bad guy or a voice that divides the clubhouse. THe work environment is not a place for children. A baseball clubhouse is not a place to rear your child. LaRoche's misguided comments about a baseball clubhouse being better than school are absurd. This support he has gotten is equally absurd. The White Sox were favored by some to do really well this season. I don't see how they can be given what has played out.

And when they have a sideshow to talk about this year they can credit LaRoche for all of it. Sure, Kenny Williams could have done a better job, but that is not the issue. THe issue was initiated by LaRoche making these insane stipulations. If he were a family first guy he'd have retired after the last season. I gotta imagine there were plenty of awkward moments in that White Sox clubhouse because of him. How could there not have been?




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/20/2016 9:57:58 AM)

This OTL on MLB'S return to Cuba is really good.

How did I not know that Eduardo Perez is Tony's son?




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/20/2016 10:07:42 AM)

Great post on LaRoche, ewen. I agree with all of it.




DougD -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/20/2016 10:40:00 AM)

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Shut up and move along. Period. End of story.


Think he pretty much did just that. Only thing that keeps it in the forefront are the gossip forums full of all the people with "first hand knowledge" from third party information.




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/20/2016 4:00:36 PM)

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This Adam LaRoche thing reminded me that old show....the Corn Chip and Eddie's Father...or whatever the heck it was called

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGu0m08Etm8


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It was called the "Courtship of Eddie's Father". There was a move made in either the late 1950's or early 1960's and then they made a TV show about it. Bill Bixby was Eddie's father. I don't remember the child actor who played Eddie. I have seen reruns on one occasion on TV Land a couple of years ago. They may still play them now and then.




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