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Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 7:54:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Great games
Asterisks are a tough tough lineup, even without the advantages
Every game hangs in the balance right to the end
Great baseball being played

They're lamenting not coming through in clutch situations, LIKE THEY DID BEFORE
Its so weird, its almost like THEY DON"T KNOW WHAT PITCH IS COMING
That little bit of doubt, is it a fastball, is it off-speed, wow, its almost like they have to rely on their own instincts, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE


TB full of guys who aren't well known, but they can play the game. In every facet.


Shows you how ingrained into their mindset the process was. They became dependent on it. it became the normal, the expected.

and maybe part of that is why some are still not apologetic about it to this day. After a while they didn't know any better. They wanted to win and win at any cost.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 10:33:29 AM)

Asterisks have a rival in the NFL for oblivious

Titans QB Ryan Tannehill: “We were a little ticked off about how we’ve been treated,how we’ve been talked about these last couple weeks.”




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 10:46:55 AM)

Its crazy
Tons of discussions on the tiny guys throwing problems
"hmmm, there's something bothering him …. hmmmmmmm"

CLOMP CLOMP CLOMP (get outta here, you big ELEPHANT!)




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 10:48:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Its crazy
Tons of discussions on the tiny guys throwing problems
"hmmm, there's something bothering him …. hmmmmmmm"

CLOMP CLOMP CLOMP (get outta here, you big ELEPHANT!)



no kidding

the espn picture of him after the throw said it all. Weight of the world is wearing him down.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 11:06:11 AM)

SAN DIEGO -- Chemistry is a word often scoffed at by many baseball analytics people because there is no way to quantify what it actually means or what it offers. But when you speak to Major League Baseball players who have won a World Series, it's a word often mentioned by those it affects the most -- the ones who share a clubhouse.
In a Champagne-drenched clubhouse last year, Max Scherzer was one of several Nationals players who was quick to heap praise on Gerardo Parra -- who had been signed by the club in mid-May when the team was struggling mightily -- signaling his unifying personality as one of the primary reasons for the Nationals' turnaround after Parra arrived.
"He brought so much joy," Scherzer said. "He reminded us all to relax and have fun playing this game."

There are only six types of games in the MLB playoffs -- and they never get old
The Tampa Bay Rays are among the smallest of small-market clubs, yet they are on the verge of earning just their second trip to the World Series. They have long embraced their formula, mostly because they can't cover many flaws with a checkbook. Yes, analytics play a significant role in the Rays' success, something you see by their high number of defensive shifts around the diamond and their popularizing the frequent use of the opener on the pitching mound. But their success is also built on by what happens when the players are all together, which is pretty much every day for hours at a time.
"When we acquire a player, as much work that goes into what he can do on the field, there's that much on the personality and character," manager Kevin Cash said. "That's where scouts come into play and word of mouth comes into play. Getting to know and having relationships throughout the game that you can find some pretty crucial information about how's his personality. We know we have enough information about how those players can match on the field, but how do they match in the clubhouse?"
Almost out of necessity, the Rays have always been a magnet for the discarded. In Game 2 of the American League Championship Series against the Astros, Tampa Bay's starting lineup featured seven players who had been acquired via trade. Only Brandon Lowe and Kevin Kiermaier were original Rays draft picks.
Over the course of the past five years, the team payrolls of the Rays have ranked 28th in MLB twice (including this season), 29th once and last at 30th another two times. Their prorated player payroll this season was $28 million, nearly $100 million less than that of the Yankees ($113 million), whom they eliminated in the ALDS. Yet the Rays' 40 victories in 60 games was second only to the Dodgers' 43 wins and their $105 million payroll.
Talent is an obvious must for Tampa Bay to do what it has done over the past dozen years -- which includes eight winning seasons -- but it's that culture inside the clubhouse that resonates so much with the ones most affected, the players.
"I think what makes us good is the mentality, how easy it is to come here and play," said Tyler Glasnow, acquired from Pittsburgh along with 2019 All-Star Austin Meadows in exchange for Chris Archer during the 2018 season. "I think so many of the players here are not necessarily guys that other organizations have given up on, that's not the right word for it, but they've been given a chance here and everyone comes out and plays their heart out. I think they can kind of do what they want with lineups because everyone is so on board with winning. It's just a perfect storm, I guess."

The Rays have shown scouting, analytics and good team chemistry is a winning combination. AP Photo/Ashley Landis
The roots of the Rays' success can be traced to when the franchise hired someone who had never been a big league manager, the nomadic Joe Maddon in 2006. He immediately brought in a counterculture of perspective.
"Joe started that thinking when I was there," said veteran left-hander David Price, a member of the Rays from 2008 to 2014. "The first thing he told all of us was to be yourself. If you wanted tattoos or piercings, go ahead and get them. I loved it there. Culture absolutely matters inside the clubhouse, one hundred percent it does, and I don't care what anyone else says about that. It takes chemistry to win, there's no way around that. Players know this. I'm very happy for what they're doing. A little piece of me is still in Tampa."

The Rays' system would not work if there were fractures within the organization. Here's where the Rays excel: They scour every level of minor league systems, as well as the major league level. One area that is an obvious strength is something legendary Royals and Braves general manager John Schuerholz told me years ago, "You must scout your own system better than anyone else, recognize what you have before someone else sees something you may not."
This might be why the Rays rarely regret trading away anyone from their system and often make fans from other organizations question why some players from their favorite clubs seem to excel once they wear a Rays uniform. Look no further than some current big-time contributors whom they acquired by trade, players such as Randy Arozarena (Cardinals), Glasnow and Meadows (Pirates), Ji-Man Choi (Brewers), Manuel Margot (Padres), Willy Adames (Tigers), Mike Zunino (Mariners), Nick Anderson (Marlins) and Peter Fairbanks (Rangers).
"They believe in scouting more than people think," a rival front-office executive said. "They have a tremendous pro, international and amateur scouting department. It's the only way they can do what they do."
It's why the running joke in some baseball circles is that if the Rays are calling about a potential trade, don't answer the phone. The Rays do serious due diligence, looking under the surface to find players who fit their profile.
"Our scouts, you look at our roster, there's a lot of people that maybe didn't come through the system," Cash said. "That's a credit to our [research and development] department and our scouts. It's a collaboration. The amount of communication and discussion that we have from player development to scouting to front office to coaching staff. There's this constant conversation with ideas being kicked around and being respected from all angles."

Even someone like new cult hero Mike Brosseau, whose home run in the bottom of the eighth off Yankees closer Aroldis Chapman in Game 5 of the ALDS propelled the Rays past their heated rivals. Brosseau was an undrafted free agent from Oakland (Michigan) University, having been passed over by every club for 40 rounds in the 2016 draft.
"Mike Brosseau is a perfect example of why we feel our organization is so special," Cash said. "Our scouting to recognize it. Our player development pushing and saying, 'Get him up here, he's going to make the most of it.'"
Yet here was Brosseau, as unlikely a playoff hero as there ever has been, wearing the Superman cape after a 10-pitch at-bat against Chapman, one of the nastiest closers in the game.
"They know what we do well, and they put us in the scenarios to do that," Brosseau said. "We have a lot of guys that may have been overlooked in their careers. You can go down the list and there's probably so many who have been overlooked. When you put that kind of combination, of everybody having a chip on their shoulder, everybody coming to the park ready to play and wanting this team to advance and do their part to make sure that happens, it's a dangerous combination."


Outstanding explanation of what works today




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 1:48:23 PM)

WTH?

Presidents and Baseball Managers HAVE to be 90 years old these days?

White Sox interviewing Tony LaRussa
And I ain't talking TLR Jr
WTH

I assumed they wanted away from Renteria because he wasn't hip enough
Tony might not have any hips left




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 1:52:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

WTH?

Presidents and Baseball Managers HAVE to be 90 years old these days?

White Sox interviewing Tony LaRussa
And I ain't talking TLR Jr
WTH

I assumed they wanted away from Renteria because he wasn't hip enough
Tony might not have any hips left



SMH

WOW

One CHEE CAH go writer speculated the biggest reason Renteria got canned was mishandling pitching.
Last boo boo was pitching Keuchly well over 100 pitches with a 9-0 lead, then he had back issues during the collapse,




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 2:21:41 PM)

The GM said they wanted to go to someone with "recent WS experience"
2011 is recent?




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 6:20:12 PM)

Guess that late rally carried over for the Dodgers

And they were pissed off being down

11 run first

Wow




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 7:34:34 PM)

How bout dem Dodgers


15-1 currently.

Let’s go Rays.
About to start!




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 8:00:11 PM)

Plouffe is getting a lot of traction on his Twitter takes. TBS just highlighted one of his tweets on Altuve and Ron Darling said he loves Plouffe for his great takes on Twitter.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 8:00:45 PM)

I love watching Greinke pitch.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 8:31:24 PM)

Typical.
Ump squeezing Glasnow
Gotta get the Asterisks a win ya know.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 8:35:55 PM)

Altuve is MASHING!!




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 8:47:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Altuve is MASHING!!

Yeah he’s hitting it out there where most of his throws end up. [:D]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 8:48:39 PM)

Love it
Tie game
All Greinkes work. Gone!




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 9:03:18 PM)

Glasnow settling in
Crazy
One of the few pitchers in history who’s BA against goes down the deeper he gets into the game.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 9:05:24 PM)

Another great outing by Greinke
Been an absolute warrior his whole career
Can’t believe people still doubt him.
Smart smart pitcher.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 9:15:56 PM)

George SPRINGER!!!!




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 9:23:21 PM)

They should post the Astros numbers two different ways
One while cheating
One after cheating.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 9:23:52 PM)

Come on Bregman, you clown. Donaldson makes that play.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 9:25:18 PM)

Leave him in!!! I let Greinke go 7. So lame to pull him after a couple hits. One was a total fluke. Not even 80 pitches!

YES!!!! Dusty leaving him in. I like it.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 9:28:07 PM)

Stud. Totally fooled him.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 9:29:45 PM)

Wasn’t a swing.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (10/14/2020 9:35:15 PM)

On ball 4.
Gotta take there.
He’s not gonna be in the zone.




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