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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

More great news for my boy Johnny Football.
Merrill Hoge hates him.
That right there may just make him a mortal lock. [:D]

Bortles extremely impressive today.
Looks like he nailed his #1 pick audition for the Texans.

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Hope you guys don't break down and cry like Brody did today on the Common Man Progrum. That guy is crazy.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

I don't feel bad for AP. He had his shot with Favre, I swear he fumbled so many times in the NFC title game that they actually were using the backup RB in crunch time. Too painful to look up the box score but if AP wouldn't have fumbled so much the Vikings would have won going away.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

No matter what happened you really don't need to look further than the 12 man penalty. Unforgivable and without it we run a safe play, hopefully pick up a few yards and kick a <50 yard FG and go to the SB.

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

No matter what happened you really don't need to look further than the 12 man penalty. Unforgivable and without it we run a safe play, hopefully pick up a few yards and kick a <50 yard FG and go to the SB.

Damn
Had almost gone a day without being pissed off about that ..... [>:]

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

I read Cris Carter's book, about WRs, reminding me of past pain.

The window of opportunity is so small for guys. Get them next year? How'd that work out for _________ (player name here).

'98 haunts me more than the Favre year. I think of that far too often.

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

I read Cris Carter's book, about WRs, reminding me of past pain.

The window of opportunity is so small for guys. Get them next year? How'd that work out for _________ (player name here).

'98 haunts me more than the Favre year. I think of that far too often.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

I don't feel bad for AP. He had his shot with Favre, I swear he fumbled so many times in the NFC title game that they actually were using the backup RB in crunch time. Too painful to look up the box score but if AP wouldn't have fumbled so much the Vikings would have won going away.

Maybe if you looked at the boxscore you could stop continuing the falsehood.


AD 2 fumbles 0 lost.

Yes there is an argument that he should bare the blame for the fumbled
handoff Favre never go to him and was attributed to him (Favre).

Still 0, arguable ONE lost fumble does not support your theory that we would have won going away if not for AD's fumbles.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

I don't feel bad for AP. He had his shot with Favre, I swear he fumbled so many times in the NFC title game that they actually were using the backup RB in crunch time. Too painful to look up the box score but if AP wouldn't have fumbled so much the Vikings would have won going away.

Maybe if you looked at the boxscore you could stop continuing the falsehood.

AD 2 fumbles 0 lost.

Yes there is an argument that he should bare the blame for the fumbled handoff Favre never go to him and was attributed to him (Favre).

Still 0, arguable ONE lost fumble does not support your theory that we would have won going away if not for AD's fumbles.

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

I don't feel bad for AP. He had his shot with Favre, I swear he fumbled so many times in the NFC title game that they actually were using the backup RB in crunch time. Too painful to look up the box score but if AP wouldn't have fumbled so much the Vikings would have won going away.

Maybe if you looked at the boxscore you could stop continuing the falsehood.


AD 2 fumbles 0 lost.

Yes there is an argument that he should bare the blame for the fumbled
handoff Favre never go to him and was attributed to him (Favre).

Still 0, arguable ONE lost fumble does not support your theory that we would have won going away if not for AD's fumbles.

Screw the stats. The fumble at the end of the half was 100% on Peterson, and it changed the whole complexion of the game. So don't come with the "zero fumbles lost" defense. He lost one, an it was enormous.

He put the ball on the ground three times. I have little doubt it had a terribly unsettling effect on the whole team. Everybody started squeezing the ball a little bit tighter, which typically has the reverse effect and leads to more fumbles. It became contagious. I blame Peterson.

As far as the blame game goes for losing, Chilly is #1. The 12 men was inexcusable. Just epic horrible hands around your throat coaching. And Peterson, for the reasons I stated above, is a close #2 when I'm assessing blame for that loss.

And Favre? It was the greatest performance I've ever seen by a QB. They should never have been in the position for that last int to happen. I couldn't have more respect for him as a football player. Anyone blaming him for that loss is a fool.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

I wasn't too mad after that game. 1998 changed me forever. I will never get that emotionally invested again in sports team.

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

I just laugh at all the legions of Peterson fans who hold him so high on a pedestal he can do no wrong. He's always been an incomplete, one dimensional back. Amazing runner. The most amazing mix of power and speed in the history of the game. But he can't catch or block. And just in the last 2-3 years has solved a pesky fumbling problem he had most of his career.

And believe it or not, he actually does have holes in his running style. In his attempts to hit a HR every carry, he actually does sacrifice alot of sure 5 yard gains that end up being 2 yard gains (or less).