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Mister Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/3/2021 5:19:29 PM)

Gladney released by Vikings after domestic violence indictment.




twinsfan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/4/2021 12:30:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Kirk Cousins is reportedly in line to get a COVID vaccination at TCO. Bravo!

I guess Common received incorrect information from his sources.




MDK -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/5/2021 6:53:03 PM)

Cousins is taking his cues from Tucker Carlson who has absolutely saved his sorry ass by getting the vaccinet. He was interviewed, (carlson) for a Time article and equated questions about being vaccinated to asking someone if they had sex the night before.

Cousins is not afraid to die. I am not concerned if he does. He thinks he would go to heaven. Maybe he goes to hell for being a selfish prick unconcerned about his family or teammates health.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/6/2021 9:28:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MDK

Cousins is taking his cues from Tucker Carlson who has absolutely saved his sorry ass by getting the vaccinet. He was interviewed, (carlson) for a Time article and equated questions about being vaccinated to asking someone if they had sex the night before.

Cousins is not afraid to die. I am not concerned if he does. He thinks he would go to heaven. Maybe he goes to hell for being a selfish prick unconcerned about his family or teammates health.

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aven. Maybe he goes to hell



YEP




twinsfan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/6/2021 11:51:07 AM)

Judd Zulgad:

Kirk Cousins spent 10 minutes at a podium before the Vikings’ practice Thursday and proved what was suspected all along. There is always an excuse for why something happened to him and he wants you to know this: It’s not his fault. Ever. That can be an interception, a bad day, a tough loss, or, as we found out, why he spent the past five days quarantined at home after the unvaccinated quarterback was deemed to have close contact to fellow QB Kellen Mond during a time when the rookie had COVID-19.

This time Cousins pointed to the size of the meeting room in which the quarterbacks gather — it was too small and has been changed — and Cousins is now considering setting up Plexiglas around where he sits. We’re not kidding. He really said this. All of this to avoid getting vaccinated for COVID-19, a decision that would make Cousins’ life much easier and pretty much assure he could play in games this season unless he got a breakthrough case. As it is the NFL is actively looking for reasons to punish unvaccinated players and, in Cousins’ case, they found one less than a week into training camp.

The $31 million man refused to say if he was considering getting a vaccination, although it is clear he isn’t. Told that his decision affects his coaches, teammates and Vikings fans, Cousins simply said he would “agree to disagree” with the person asking the question.

Compare what Cousins is doing to the decision made by Tennessee quarterback Ryan Tannehill.

“I wouldn’t have got the vaccine without the protocols they are enforcing on us,” he said. “It’s a personal decision for everyone. Everyone has to make the best decision for them and their families. That is kind of our mindset in this building, but they are trying to force your hand. … I love this game, I love this team, I want to be able to compete and do the things that are important to build chemistry and win football games. Ultimately, that forced my hand into getting the vaccine.”

Tannehill clearly isn’t happy but he also wants to give his team the best chance to win.

Cousins? Not so much.

Cousins’ lack of accountability was astounding considering he is the only real option to start at quarterback this season, if Mike Zimmer’s club wants to reach its goals. Cousins feeling that he will control the situation by staying away from close contact to anyone who tests positive for COVID-19 is incredibly naive considering how sneaky this virus is and how many potential variants are going to continue to pop up.

Somehow, Cousins thinks he’s in control, when the reality from the day the coronavirus reached this country is no one is in control. We’re doing the best we can and the vaccinations are part of that. If Cousins worked in an office or drove a truck, he would never have to stand at a podium and answer the questions he did on Thursday. But he’s the quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings and his backup is a nice young man named Jake Browning, who right now has no business being asked to start a regular-season game.


Cousins did say he had a productive conversation with Zimmer on Wednesday night and that things were fine between them, although he would not elaborate. He also said Zimmer’s comment about Cousins not believing in the protocols put in place by the NFL was not true. One has to think Cousins might have been stretching the truth a bit in describing how the conversation went.

Considering Zimmer expressed his dismay with Cousins and other unvaccinated players (the Vikings have plenty) twice during recent press conferences and then once on the radio, it’s hard to believe the no-nonsense coach decided to change his tune for a quarterback who is willing to put his team’s season in jeopardy.

So what happens if Cousins’ plan to avoid human contact at all costs falls short, either at the Vikings’ facility or at home? He will miss a game and have to answer these questions again, no doubt doing his best to deflect blame elsewhere. That’s OK, though, Cousins is an All-Pro when it comes to absolving himself. Sometimes that means showing Adam Thielen he ran the wrong route, even if he didn’t. If Cousins misses a game, it certainly will be the Vikings fault, or the person giving the test, or anyone else who looks like a convenient scapegoat.

The worst part is Cousins thinks we buy this garbage. He believes we’re suckers. But we aren’t as dumb as he thinks.

Cousins’ defenders will point to his stats and production on the field, making them part of the Cult of Kirk. The rational fans realize that no matter what Cousins does with his arm, it’s his mind that will be the reason he will remain nothing more than a Box Score quarterback for the remainder of his career.

Winners lead, they worry about their teammates and coaches, they concern themselves with helping others and not just themselves. That will never be Kirk Cousins. He always will focus on the guy in the No. 8 jersey and whatever happens around him, happens. If we didn’t know this before Thursday, we do now.




twinsfan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 9:11:07 AM)

NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported Monday morning that the Vikings are bringing in renowned epidemiologist and infectious disease expert Dr. Michael Osterholm to speak to the team today, per sources informed of the situation.

Minnesota's vaccination rate among players has lagged behind other NFL teams. Quarterback Kirk Cousins is among the most high-profile players in the NFL not to be vaccinated. Minnesota's QB room has already dealt with missing time due to a COVID-19 case for rookie Kellen Mond.

Coach Mike Zimmer has been vocal about his frustration regarding his team's status related to the vaccine.

Players like Cousins have repeatedly stated that they are doing their own research regarding the vaccine. To aid that process, the Vikings will bring in an expert to talk to the players in hopes of convincing the holdouts that the vaccine is safe and will help the team better navigate the 2021 season without restrictions that come from not getting the shot.




ronhextall -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 9:18:57 AM)

I hate it when people say " I am doing my own research " when there is a line of MD's, PHD's, and experts on the subject that already did.

I would rather they just say, " I am not getting it " and not another word.




twinsfan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 9:49:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

I hate it when people say " I am doing my own research " when there is a line of MD's, PHD's, and experts on the subject that already did.

I would rather they just say, " I am not getting it " and not another word.

But the doctors and scientists are in on the hoax because it benefits them financially. [&o]




Mister Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 11:03:57 AM)

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly




TJSweens -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 12:00:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly

Or because Cousins is Cousins and there those who will attack him for anything.




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 12:10:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly

I curb stomp them all..

Fn morons..

AT, HS, KC…

These people get to be parents of a bleak looking future generation …

SMH




David Levine -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 1:46:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly


Smith and Thielen get their share when their names come up. But neither guy has positioned himself as a 1-man media circus like Kirk does.

Most seem to be disappointed in Smith and Thielen and think they're selfish for putting the players/coaches and even the season at risk for misguided attitudes.




twinsfan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 2:17:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly


Smith and Thielen get their share when their names come up. But neither guy has positioned himself as a 1-man media circus like Kirk does.

Most seem to be disappointed in Smith and Thielen and think they're selfish for putting the players/coaches and even the season at risk for misguided attitudes.

There's really no reason to root for any of the 3. Is it as bad as rooting for a domestic violence offender? It's not, I guess. But you hear so many people rightly say, you hit a woman, I will not support you on my team anymore. How about refusing to get vaccinated and hurting numerous innocent people because of it? There are people that won't root for players on their team because they kneel for the National Anthem. And, comparatively speaking, I would say it's certainly more reasonable to not root for someone because they refuse to get vaccinated. Kneeling for the National Anthem isn't hurting others. Not getting vaccinated and willfully participating in a contact sport is likely hurting others.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 2:23:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly


Smith and Thielen get their share when their names come up. But neither guy has positioned himself as a 1-man media circus like Kirk does.

Most seem to be disappointed in Smith and Thielen and think they're selfish for putting the players/coaches and even the season at risk for misguided attitudes.

There's really no reason to root for any of the 3. Is it as bad as rooting for a domestic violence offender? It's not, I guess. But you hear so many people rightly say, you hit a woman, I will not support you on my team anymore. How about refusing to get vaccinated and hurting numerous innocent people because of it? There are people that won't root for players on their team because they kneel for the National Anthem. And, comparatively speaking, I would say it's certainly more reasonable to not root for someone because they refuse to get vaccinated. Kneeling for the National Anthem isn't hurting others. Not getting vaccinated and willfully participating in a contact sport is likely hurting others.


NICE POST




twinsfan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 2:26:30 PM)

Thanks man.




MDK -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 3:20:03 PM)

Being able to do as you damn well please is fine with republicans (I should say Trumpers) when it comes to guns, antivaccine positions, driving w/o seatbelts, driving a motorcycle without a helmet, storming the capital and attempting a coup of the government.

But if it means making a medical decision between a woman and their physician regarding an abortion, allowing gay marriage, take a knee during the national anthem, pursue another religious belief besides christianity or pursue no belief in religion or allowing all rightful voters to vote, than personal liberty be damned. White old men are better suited to make that decision for you. Because they have god on their side. And of course, the bible has given mankind the right to own guns and use them so white men remain in charge. It's in the bible, right next to where capitalism and free enterprise and preferred by god and christ as economic systems as opposed to socialism.




MDK -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 3:36:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly

Or because Cousins is Cousins and there those who will attack him for anything.


Seriously Tim? Don't know if your intent was to imply this but one could certainly infer that Cousins is unfairly targeted with criticism.

Perhaps it's the position he plays. Seems to me the QB position is typically a leadership position on a team, more than positions like wide receiver.

Did you give RandBall this idea....he wrote, hopefully tongue in cheek, that Vikings shouldn't go out of their way to alienate poor Cousins.

Read the comments.

The guy is an overpaid QB who wears his religion on his sleeve and has essentially said god will protect him. If not the team, maybe the fool should be concerned about the health and well being of his family rather than their spiritual well being.

I don't attack Cousins because he is Kirk Cousins. I criticize him because he sucks as a player.

That he sucks as a leader is another issue but given his position, seems it is hard to separate on field performance and on and off field leadership.




Mister Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 3:43:09 PM)

As awful as the preseason games are

Gonna be lots to complain about on this team

Everson Griffen as a situation rusher does zip for me

Just means the three rookiie linemen won’t see the field until numerous injuries have occurred

Mond isn’t ready
Won’t know for sure until he plays with the non scrub line

Special teams guys say they’re playing faster because the schemes aren’t as complex this year
Complex special teams
The new kicker will stink
And no one will be surprised

Idk how they make the playoffs
Just don’t see it




Phil Riewer -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 3:54:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MDK

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly

Or because Cousins is Cousins and there those who will attack him for anything.


Seriously Tim? Don't know if your intent was to imply this but one could certainly infer that Cousins is unfairly targeted with criticism.

Perhaps it's the position he plays. Seems to me the QB position is typically a leadership position on a team, more than positions like wide receiver.

Did you give RandBall this idea....he wrote, hopefully tongue in cheek, that Vikings shouldn't go out of their way to alienate poor Cousins.

Read the comments.

The guy is an overpaid QB who wears his religion on his sleeve and has essentially said god will protect him. If not the team, maybe the fool should be concerned about the health and well being of his family rather than their spiritual well being.

I don't attack Cousins because he is Kirk Cousins. I criticize him because he sucks as a player.

That he sucks as a leader is another issue but given his position, seems it is hard to separate on field performance and on and off field leadership.


Who peed in your Cheerios? Every QB is overpaid...what did Allen just sign for. Would you rather have Case back and suck worse?




Mark Anderson -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 5:36:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly


Smith and Thielen get their share when their names come up. But neither guy has positioned himself as a 1-man media circus like Kirk does.

Most seem to be disappointed in Smith and Thielen and think they're selfish for putting the players/coaches and even the season at risk for misguided attitudes.

Does our best player ever get mentioned?




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 6:20:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly


Smith and Thielen get their share when their names come up. But neither guy has positioned himself as a 1-man media circus like Kirk does.

Most seem to be disappointed in Smith and Thielen and think they're selfish for putting the players/coaches and even the season at risk for misguided attitudes.

Does our best player ever get mentioned?


Eric Kendricks, Patrick Peterson, and Justin Jefferson are among the Vikings players who are confirmed as fully vaccinated.




Mark Anderson -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/23/2021 6:33:32 PM)

MVP candidate???




Phil Riewer -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/24/2021 7:19:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly


Smith and Thielen get their share when their names come up. But neither guy has positioned himself as a 1-man media circus like Kirk does.

Most seem to be disappointed in Smith and Thielen and think they're selfish for putting the players/coaches and even the season at risk for misguided attitudes.

Does our best player ever get mentioned?


Eric Kendricks, Patrick Peterson, and Justin Jefferson are among the Vikings players who are confirmed as fully vaccinated.


Mark is talking about the fear of mentioning Cook; you know Dalvin. The will bash Cousins and to a less extent Thielen and Smith but not a word to Cook and he is said to be a leader....

I would think all are leaders of the team and should catch the same wrath but that is just me.




David Levine -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/24/2021 10:13:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

I find it interesting that Cousins is constantly dragged through this

But Smith and Thielen aren’t grilled

Maybe it’s because Cousins opened his mouth publicly


Smith and Thielen get their share when their names come up. But neither guy has positioned himself as a 1-man media circus like Kirk does.

Most seem to be disappointed in Smith and Thielen and think they're selfish for putting the players/coaches and even the season at risk for misguided attitudes.

Does our best player ever get mentioned?


Eric Kendricks, Patrick Peterson, and Justin Jefferson are among the Vikings players who are confirmed as fully vaccinated.


Mark is talking about the fear of mentioning Cook; you know Dalvin. The will bash Cousins and to a less extent Thielen and Smith but not a word to Cook and he is said to be a leader....

I would think all are leaders of the team and should catch the same wrath but that is just me.


I haven't heard if Cook is vaccinated or not.

If not, then he's as much of a dumbass as Cousins, Smith and Thielen.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (8/24/2021 10:19:28 AM)

He's been masked every time I've seen him on the sidelines so I'm guessing 'no' but also haven't heard.




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