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SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:07:39 AM)

There's a really awesome personal catcher currently available, mr Hu ... Just sayin.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:08:53 AM)

3-0 Roch 5K's 2 BB/H in 4IP 50 pitches for Hu Hot

They're beating Scott Diamond. Casilla is also on the Durham team.




TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:11:28 AM)

Looks like Mr. Hu has already become the latest pitching prospect to pass up Meyer.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:11:47 AM)

Milone is saying the right things, has a good attitude for the media and for pictures

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=543548#/career/R/pitching/2015/ALL


but you have to believe he's seething at the incompetence at the bigs level when he's throwing donuts.




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:13:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Milone is saying the right things, has a good attitude for the media and for pictures

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=543548#/career/R/pitching/2015/ALL


but you have to believe he's seething at the incompetence at the bigs level when he's throwing donuts.

This

It's ridiculous he's there, and a couple others are here




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:14:54 AM)

It's a day/night doubleheader for Roch, which is in part, why Hu was called up to spot start.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:20:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

It's a day/night doubleheader for Roch, which is in part, why Hu was called up to spot start.


So the max he can go is 7 (minor league doubleheader). Has to be freeing in a way and he can know to let fly.




TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:20:46 AM)

Perhaps the Twins should release Peltme, promote Milone and leave Mr. Hu at Rochester.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:25:03 AM)

Hu wants no part of Alexi Casilla...




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:42:31 AM)

Probably done after 6IP
2H/r/4BB/6K




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 12:48:20 PM)

Roch held on, winning 4-3

Peterson 1-4/2R HR(5)/2R, Beresford 2-2/BB/RBI, Ortiz 2-4/R

Hu 1-0 6IP 2H/R/4BB/6K
Thielbar IP BB
Hamburger IP 4H/R/2K
Achter IP H/R/K/HR/Save(5)




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 1:14:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Roch held on, winning 4-3

Peterson 1-4/2R HR(5)/2R, Beresford 2-2/BB/RBI, Ortiz 2-4/R

Hu 1-0 6IP 2H/R/4BB/6K
Thielbar IP BB
Hamburger IP 4H/R/2K
Achter IP H/R/K/HR/Save(5)


Whoa. They went two 9's today? Interesting. I guess day/night they could make it work.

Pretty good outing from Hu. I'd send him down to AA though and move Berrios up (move Milone to the majors).




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 4:20:34 PM)

One international scouting director calls Cuban center field prospect Eddy Martinez an “impact talent,” Kiley McDaniel of Fangraphs reports (Twitter links). McDaniel credits the 20-year-old with 70-grade speed and 50-grade raw power, joining other recent observers in expecting an eight-figure bonus for the youngster. Though we’ve heard suggestions that a signing could come quickly, McDaniel says it remains unclear whether he’ll wait until the next July 2 period kicks off. Martinez will, of course, be subject to international bonus pool restrictions regardless of when he signs.




ewen21 -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 7:13:41 PM)

Meyer is getting shelled again tonight. Four runs, six hits, 2 walks. only 3.1 innings of work so far




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 7:34:40 PM)

Buxton Grand Slam, Turner 2R HR tonight at Chattanooga




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 7:41:59 PM)

CRapids lost a day game 7-5

Vavra 2-4/3R HR(6), Kelly 2-4/2R/SB(1)

Curtiss 2-3 6IP 6H/6R/2BB/4K/HR
Landa IP K
Theofanopoulos IP H/R/K




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 7:43:00 PM)

8 k's for Nolasco. The curve has a lot more bite than earlier this year.

Earlier you'd watch it and say "that bites"




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 7:43:27 PM)

Get through the inning. Minimize the trouble.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/19/2015 11:17:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Buxton Grand Slam, Turner 2R HR tonight at Chattanooga


Nice! 5 HR's and 7 triples for a "struggling" 21 year old so far ain't so bad.

Kepler 2 for 3 tonight. En fuego.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2015 6:44:29 AM)

Roch lost the 2nd game of the day/night, 4-2

Farris 2-4/R, PInto 1-4/double/R/RBI

1-11 RISP

Meyer 2-3 4.2IP 7H/4R/3BB/7K
Oliveros 2IP 0-1 IRS H/2BB/5K
O'Rourke 1.1Ip 0-2 IRS BB/2K
Darnell IP 2K


10-3 win for Chattanooga

Buxton 2-5/grand slam(HR#5)/2R/4RBI/11SB, Gonzales 3-4/2R/RBI, TUrner 1-4/2R HR(2)/3RBI, Kepler 2-3/BB/R/RBI, Meneses 1-3/BB/R

Peavey 4-1 7IP 7H/2R/6K
Shibuya 2I 2H/R/2K


FTM lost 6-1

5 hits

Garver 1-3/R,Wade 1-3/RBI

Mildren 1-4 4IP 10H/6R/BB/2HR
Gilbert 2IP H/2K
Westphal 1.2IP 2BB/K
Peterson 1.1IP 0-2 IRS H/2K




TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2015 8:05:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Buxton Grand Slam, Turner 2R HR tonight at Chattanooga


Nice! 5 HR's and 7 triples for a "struggling" 21 year old so far ain't so bad.



He should have hit that grand slam the game before when he blew his chance at the cycle. BUST!




McMurfy -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2015 10:29:54 AM)

The Minnesota Twins are finally experiencing a long-awaited turnaround as an organization, and while that is reflected to some extent on the big-league field, it is more evident as you examine a minor-league system that is suddenly stacked with quality young arms.

On Tuesday, Seth wrote about the dilemma that the Twins face, with Tommy Milone forcing his way back into the picture by decimating Triple-A hitters while no spots in the MLB rotation are necessarily open.

You know the times are a-changin' here in Minnesota when we're struggling to find room for a deserving starting pitcher rather than desperately cycling through ill-equipped replacements.

Such scenarios figure to become more and more common over the next few years, with a veritable army of outstanding pitchers rising through the ranks.

TINSTAAPP is an (albeit clunky) acronym coined by Baseball Prospectus many years ago, and has been frequently thrown around by analysts as a cautionary note. It stands for "There Is No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect," and refers to the frequency with which promising young hurlers fizzle out by the time they reach the major leagues.

That truism should certainly be kept in mind as we run through some of Minnesota's outstanding performers in the minors – nothing is close to guaranteed with any of them – but that's why the sheer volume of intriguing names is so encouraging.

Here's a snapshot of the club's best pitching prospects, and a review of what they've been able to accomplish this year.

1. Jose Berrios, RHP, Class-AA Chattanooga
2015 Stats: 50.0 IP, 4-2, 2.88 ERA, 58/16 K/BB, 1.16 WHIP
Age: 20
ETA: Late 2015

That Berrios has demonstrated such dominance is made all the more impressive by the fact that he won't turn 21 for another week, making him younger than all but one position player in the Southern League. He's going up against older and more experienced hitters and blowing them away. Berrios has a pretty good case as a Top 5 pitching prospect in all the minors right now.

2. Stephen Gonsalves, LHP, Class-A Cedar Rapids
2015 Stats: 36.0 IP, 3-1, 1.75 ERA, 47/7 K/BB, 0.83 WHIP
Age: 20
ETA: 2017

Gonsalves ranked 13th on our preseason listing of top Twins prospects. When I profiled him, I marveled at his tremendous projectability as a 6'5" lefty with improving velocity and noted the following: "If he can put in a full season and maintain his performance in High-A, he'll surely vault into the Top 10 next year and maybe the Top 5." The 20-year-old returned to Cedar Rapids, where he finished last year with eight excellent starts, and has taken his game to another level as illustrated by his ridiculous K/BB ratio. Presumably, he'll be in Ft. Myers within a couple of weeks.

3. Chih-Wei Hu, RHP, Class-A (Advanced) Ft. Myers
2015 Stats: 35 IP, 4-0, 1.03 ERA, 36/6 K/BB, 0.83 WHIP
Age: 21
ETA: Late 2016

Hu wasn't a high-profile acquisition when the Twins brought him in as a teenager from Taiwan in August of 2012, signing for a relatively modest $220,000. But while it's early, he's shaping up as one of the franchise's biggest successes ever on the international market. His absurdly good numbers in Ft. Myers would be easier to pass off as a fluke if they weren't exactly in line with what he did in Low-A and rookie ball the past couple years. When you hear the term "command-control guy" you might be tempted to affix a low ceiling, but Hu can reach the mid-90s with his fastball and has tallied strikeouts steadily at every level. He has also allowed only one home run in 148 pro innings. The Twins showed how highly they thought of him when they called him up to make a spot start in the first leg of a Triple-A doubleheader on Tuesday. Hu rose to the challenge with six innings of one-run ball, picking up the win and pushing his career record in the minors to 15-2.

4. Alex Meyer, RHP, Class-AAA Rochester
2015 Stats: 34.2 IP, 2-2, 7.02 ERA, 34/21 K/BB, 1.87 WHIP
Age: 25
ETA: Late 2015

Obviously, Meyer doesn't belong in the same conversation as the three names listed above based strictly on 2015 numbers, but his ability and his history cannot be ignored. After competing for a spot on the major-league roster in spring training, the righty reported to Rochester where he's been battling through the toughest stretch of his pro career. His mechanics are out of whack, his already shaky command has deteriorated, and he's uncharacteristically giving up tons of hits. As ugly as things are right now, you have to believe that eventually the 25-year-old will get it straightened out and remind everyone why both MLB.com and Baseball Prospectus ranked him as a Top 30 prospect in baseball prior to the season.

5. Tyler Duffey, RHP, Class-AA Chattanooga
2015 Stats: 52.2 IP, 2-2, 2.56 ERA, 54/12 K/BB, 1.10 WHIP
Age: 24
ETA: 2016

Duffey is a former college closer but you wouldn't know it from his consistently strong numbers as a starter in the Twins' system. He has routinely pitched deep into games for Chattanooga this year, averaging nearly 6.2 innings per start, and has held opponents to a .236/.282/.338 slash line while – somewhat surprisingly – averaging more than a strikeout per inning. The Southern League is a tough environment for pitchers so the fact that Duffey is achieving the best results of his career there bodes well.

6. Kohl Stewart, RHP, Class-A (Advanced) Ft. Myers
2015 Stats: 27.2 IP, 0-3, 2.93 ERA, 14/11 K/BB, 1.37 WHIP
Age: 20
ETA: 2018

It hasn't been two years since Stewart was drafted No. 4 overall, and he has a 2.47 ERA in the minors, so it feels a little odd to have him ranked this low, but recurring injury problems and a disturbing lack of strikeouts have obscured his outlook. Since moving up to full-season ball, the righty has managed only 78 strikeouts in 114 innings (6.0 K/9) – perplexing for a pitcher of his elite pedigree. The good news is that he has managed to keep opposing bats quiet even without missing them, allowing only 115 hits and four homers in 134 pro innings. If he can get healthy and start dominating he'll climb very fast.

7. Taylor Rogers, LHP, Class-AAA Rochester
2015 Stats: 49.0 IP, 3-2, 3.31 ERA, 44/18 K/BB, 1.31 WHIP
Age: 24
ETA: Late 2015

A young left-handed pitcher who has succeeded everywhere and has seen his K-rates rise as he's ascended the minors? Sign me up! Rogers is similar to Duffey in that his game is more polish than power, and like many southpaws he'll need to figure out how to handle righties to stick as a starter (they've got an .867 OPS against him this year despite his overall success) but Rogers is going to pitch in the big leagues – quite possibly before anyone else on this list.

8. Felix Jorge, RHP, Class-A Cedar Rapids
2015 Stats: 36.1 IP, 1-2, 1.98 ERA, 37/7 K/BB, 0.97 WHIP
Age: 21
ETA: 2018
The Twins signed Jorge at age 17 out of the Dominican Republic for $250,000 back in 2011, and he immediately made a name for himself in the system with a couple of fantastic seasons in the rookie leagues. He lost some of his luster last year when he struggled immensely in his first exposure to full-season ball in the Midwest League, but now he has returned to Cedar Rapids and been spectacular. He's a wiry specimen, listed at 6'2" and 170 lbs, but if he can add a little to his frame while he grows he's got a chance to be a force.

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Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2015 10:33:05 AM)

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suddenly stacked with quality young arms.

On Tuesday, Seth wrote about the dilemma that the Twins face, with Tommy Milone forcing his way back into the picture by decimating Triple-A hitters while no spots in the MLB rotation are necessarily open.


I surely would not go with "stacked"

half of the group has pitched at AAA

And there really should be no dilemma. Pelfrey has returned to form, and that's lousy. Milone deserves another shot.




sixthwi -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2015 10:37:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

suddenly stacked with quality young arms.

On Tuesday, Seth wrote about the dilemma that the Twins face, with Tommy Milone forcing his way back into the picture by decimating Triple-A hitters while no spots in the MLB rotation are necessarily open.


I surely would not go with "stacked"

half of the group has pitched at AAA

And there really should be no dilemma. Pelfrey has returned to form, and that's lousy. Milone deserves another shot.



Stacked? Are you sure this shouldn't be in the idle talk thread with the Twins Peaks and Hooters discussion?




McMurfy -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2015 10:48:20 AM)

I'd like to see Meyer brought up to pitch in the pen.
Start with one inning at a time, eventually stretch him out.
We need to get him to Neil Allen ASAP.

Disclaimer

I know he has not earned it, I don't want that pissing match.




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