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SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/22/2014 7:11:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

With 10 consecutive wins, NB has moved 6 over .500,into 3rd place

And are still 9 games out of first.

Boston's AA team, Portland, is 49-25 [:-]


They are certainly giddy about their future in Boston.
Sounds warranted.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/22/2014 3:36:51 PM)

Roch lost 3-2 Sunday

Bernier 4-5/double/R/E(6), Colabello 2-3/double/BB/2RBI,Rahl 2-4, Pinto 1-4

Gilmartin 0-1 5.2IP 4H/3R/2BB/4K/HR
Tonkin 1.1IP 0-1 IRS H/K
Thompson IP K


NB won again, 4-run 4th,5-3 win

Hicks 1-3/Sac Fly/R/RBI, Knudson 2-3/RBI, Wickens 1-3/BB/R, Thomas 1-4/R/RBi, Waring 1-4/double/R

Duffey 3-2 7.2IP 6H/3R/BB/6K/HR
Salcedo IP 1-1 IRS BB
O'Rourke .2IP 2k/Save(2)


CRapids won the first of 2, 5-zip

Christensen 2-2/2BB/2R HR(7)/2R, Garver 1-2/double(17)/BB/RBI, Granite 2-4/R, Vavra/Vielma 1-3/R

Eades 4IP 2h/4BB/K
Muren 2-1 2IP H/K
Van Steensel IP




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/22/2014 3:38:20 PM)

Pinto loses another one for us with his piss-poor framing techniques.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/22/2014 3:40:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Pinto loses another one for us with his piss-poor framing techniques.



As a DH, he probably did.

Dang Herrmann.Loser as well.




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/22/2014 3:42:33 PM)

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I actually knew he was DHing
I never let facts stand in the way of a good crack ... [&:][&:]




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/22/2014 9:17:02 PM)

CRapids lost their 2nd game 3-2 Sunday

Swim 2-3/double/2RBI, Kanzler 1-2/R/SB(11), Garver 1-3/R

Romero 3IP H/R/2BB/2K
Wilson 3IP H/BB/3K
Boyd BS/4-2 .1IP 3H/2R/2BB/HR


FTM won 4-3 on a 9th inning rbi single by Polanco (2-5/double/RBI) scoring Kepler (1-4/R). Turner 2-4/Solo HR(5)/2R, Ray 2-5/double

Tomshaw 5IP 5H/2R/2BB/3K/HR
Boer 2IP H/2BB/3K
Melotakis BS/3-1 IP 2H/R/BB/K
TJones IP H/K/Save(9)

Eliz made 2hits stand up in 2-0 winner.

Combined 4-hitter

Jorge 5IP 2H/BB/4K
Lo 1-0 2IP H/2K
Reed 2IP H/2K/Save(1)

Navaretto/Murphy had singles.




wethrock -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/22/2014 10:41:47 PM)

The story of the 6/22 NB game is the opposing pitcher Adam Loewen, now of the Phillies. He had been Baltimore's top prospect; got to majors quickly; had 2 elbow injuries and stopped pitching to become an OFer. I saw him a few years ago with Toronto-AA and he looked like he could become a useful majorleaguer. But, he peaked at AAA, and this year decided to return to pitching. He really struggled today; very poor control and eventually was hit hard. He's only had a few starts this year, so maybe too soon to write him off.




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/23/2014 10:06:19 AM)

twins blogger:


It seemed a unique draft emphasis in 2013 for the Twins: After landing consensus top prospect Bryon Buxton, the Twins went heavy on college relief pitchers, taking five of them in their first eight picks.

It seemed unique. Until the Twins essentially replicated the strategy earlier this month. At one point — rounds 2 through 6 — the Twins selected five college relievers in a row.

As a rule, relief pitchers are less valuable than starters. Presumably, therefore, these guys were relief pitchers because they weren't good enough to start. Or because they couldn't stay healthy working longer stints.

The Twins in 2012 made several bullpen selections with the intent of trying them as starters. And some they knew going in were going to remain in the bullpen. The same is probably true of the 2014 picks. Second-rounder Nick Burdi, for example, is going to remain a relief pitcher, while sixth-rounder John Curtiss was probably only in the bullpen this year because he needed his innings limited in his return from serious arm surgery.

I thought it might be instructive to see how the 2012 attempt at mining college bullpens has worked so far.

Luke Bard (supplemental): One of the pitchers the Twins eyed as a potential starter, Bard threw all of 12.1 innings last season and hasn't pitched at all this season. Seth Stohs, a blogger who drills deep into the Twins farm system, says Bard had surgery in May to reattach two significant shoulder and back muscles. These are career-threatening surgeries at best.

Mason Melotakis (second round): The left-hander made 18 starts last year for low A Cedar Rapids, finishing the season with a 3.16 ERA in 111 innings. Elevated a level this year, he has worked mainly out of the bullpen (just two starts). He figures to be a reliever going forward.

J.T. Chargois (second round): He was always seen as a relief candidate and injury risk; supposedly he could be fast-tracked to the majors. He threw 16 innings in 2012 for the Twins, missed last season with injury and had Tommy John surgery last fall. We'll see what he has in 2015.

Zach Jones (fourth round): He dominated high A as a reliever in 2013 — 70 strikeouts in 48.2 innings with a 1.85 ERA — but fell victim to Tommy John surgery this spring. We'll see what he has in 2015.

Tyler Duffy (fifth round): A college teammate of Chargois (they were co-closers at Rice), he's been strictly a starter this season and has pushed his way to Double A. He's spluttered a bit at New Britain (4.71 ERA in his first nine starts) but has some strong peripherals (including 3.6 strikeouts for each walk).

Three of the five have encountered major health issues. Only one is still being considered as a rotation candidate.

That sounds more discouraging than it probably is. The attrition rate for pitchers, even those taken in early rounds as these five were, is always high. Chargois in particular was regarded as an injury risk.

In truth, if one of these guys makes it in the majors, the Twins will be happy — especially considering that this is the draft that brought them Buxton and J.O. Berrios, a high school righty taken ahead of Bard in the supplemental round who is dominating in high A ball (2.09 ERA with 90 strikeouts in 77.1 innings).

The Twins will probably consider this year's reliever crop a success if one or two become major league factors down the road. Draft a bunch of pitchers, hope one or two survives — that's the way it works.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/23/2014 1:12:00 PM)

Onas Farfan debuted in GCLtoday, 3 walks, a WP and a groundout helped GCL O's to score 5 time in the 4th inning.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/23/2014 1:19:39 PM)

Farfan settled in during 2nd inning, striking out 2 of 3 batters.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/23/2014 2:32:38 PM)

GCL Twins now 0-3, 7-5 loss

Guzman 2-4/2r/RBi, Valera 1-4/Bb/R/RBi, Minier 0-3/2BB/R

Just 5 hits

Gonzalez 3.1IP 8H/5R/4K
Farfan 1.2IP 2-2 IRS 3BB/2K
Zoquiel 0-1 2 IP 2R/2BB/2K
Wagner IP 2-2 IRS H/K




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/23/2014 11:06:46 PM)

Monday night:

Roch lost 4-2

0-8 RISP. Rahl 2-4/2R HR(4), Ortiz 2-4/double/R, Romero 2-4, Pinto 0-2/2BB

Farris 0-3/3 Outfield assists

Meyer 4-4 3.2IP 7H/4R/2BB/3K/2HR
Ibarra2IP 2H/2K
Achter 2.1IP 0-2 IRS 2H/K


NB win streak over, 4-3 loss

Rosario 3-5/R/RBI, Rodriguez 2-5/RBI, Head Case 1-4/double/R

Vasquez 4-3 6IP 8H/4R/3BB/2K/HR
Fuller IP H/BB/2K
Summers IP H/3K
Turpen IP H

FTM rolled behind Berrios 12-1

Now 8-2 6IP 5H/R/8K
Gilbert IP 3H/K
Peterson IP H/BB/3K

Offense had 13 hits
Roberts 4-5/3doubles/3R/2RBI, Goodrum 2-4/BB/2R/2RBI/SB(13), Polanco 2-5/2R/RBI, J.Rodriguez 2-5/double/R/RBI, Grimes 1-3/double/BB/R/2RBI, Kepler 1-5/R/2RBI


Eliz lost 2-1

Just 4 hits. Max Murph 1-4/double/R, Diemer 1-4/RBI, Gordon 0-4, Doe 1-3/double

Penilla 4.2IP 7H/UER/5K/E(1)
LeBlanc 0-1/0-2 IRS 4H/R/K
Booser 2IP H/K




TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 8:03:27 AM)

That's a couple of clunkers in a row for Myer now. It looks like he has fallen solidly behind Mays now. On the brighter side, he seems to have quit striking people out. That should make the brass happy.




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 8:11:19 AM)

Finally straightened out that missing bats thing .... whew.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 9:56:15 AM)

In his last 10 games, Berrios is 7-1 with a 1.56 ERA. He's struck out 82 in 63.1 innings. He's only walked 16 and allowed 42 hits (for a WHIP of 0.92).
No one is really sure why Berrios is still in Fort Myers



Seniority [&o]




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 9:57:04 AM)

Ahh, those crazy Twins .. always thinking more deeply than everyone else .....




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 12:47:08 PM)

FTM 7-6/10 inning winner Tuesday

Turner 3-5/double/triple/2R/2RBI/SB(3), Mejia 3-4/2rbi, Harrison PH double(20)/R, Ray 3-5/2doubles/R, Hicks 2-4/BB/RBI


Baxendale 4.2IP 8H/5R/2BB/K/HR
Gruver 2.1IP 0-1 IRS 2H/2BB/3K
TJones (BS/1-1) 2IP 4H/R/BB/4K
Melotakis IP H/3K/Save(1)




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 1:50:15 PM)

GCL Twins picked up their first win Tuesday, 9-1

Gonzales 3-4/2 doubles/2R/3RBI/SB(1), Baez 3-5/double/R/3RBI/SB(3), Ramirez/Poteete 2-4/double/R, Montesino 1-4/2R/RBI

Liranzo 3IP 2H/R/3BB/4K
Theofanopoulos 1-0 2IP H/4K
Del Rosario 2IP H/4K
Nordgren 2IP H/3K




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 2:04:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

FTM 7-6/10 inning winner Tuesday

Turner 3-5/double/triple/2R/2RBI/SB(3), Mejia 3-4/2rbi, Harrison PH double(20)/R, Ray 3-5/2doubles/R, Hicks 2-4/BB/RBI


Baxendale 4.2IP 8H/5R/2BB/K/HR
Gruver 2.1IP 0-1 IRS 2H/2BB/3K
TJones (BS/1-1) 2IP 4H/R/BB/4K
Melotakis IP H/3K/Save(1)



Turner has been on fire lately.
Catcher of the future.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 2:07:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Stacey King

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

FTM 7-6/10 inning winner Tuesday

Turner 3-5/double/triple/2R/2RBI/SB(3), Mejia 3-4/2rbi, Harrison PH double(20)/R, Ray 3-5/2doubles/R, Hicks 2-4/BB/RBI


Baxendale 4.2IP 8H/5R/2BB/K/HR
Gruver 2.1IP 0-1 IRS 2H/2BB/3K
TJones (BS/1-1) 2IP 4H/R/BB/4K
Melotakis IP H/3K/Save(1)



Turner has been on fire lately.
Catcher of the future.


.249 with 9 doubles now




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 2:10:46 PM)

Berrios in the future's game.

Target Field, his future home.




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 2:11:46 PM)

Burdi going to CR to start his career.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 2:13:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Stacey King

Burdi going to CR to start his career.


Works for now. should be able to move through there this year, at the least.




TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 2:26:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Stacey King

Berrios in the future's game.

Target Field, his future home.


It's really amazing how a guy with his stuff and command, who just dominates the shit out the opposition doesn't generate any excitement outside of the organization.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/24/2014 2:40:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Stacey King

Berrios in the future's game.

Target Field, his future home.


It's really amazing how a guy with his stuff and command, who just dominates the shit out the opposition doesn't generate any excitement outside of the organization.



Vargas also to play in this game.




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