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Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2014 8:59:04 PM)

Rock Cats rolled to a 7-2 win

Ortiz 3-4/2doubles(13)/2RBI, Vargas 2-3/Sac Fly/2RBI, Hanson 2-3/double/BB/R/RBI, Wimberly 3-5/double/R/RBI, THomas 2-4/double/BB/3R/SB(6)

Gilmartin 4-2 8IP 4H/2R/9K
Oliveros IP K




twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2014 9:24:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Rock Cats rolled to a 7-2 win

Ortiz 3-4/2doubles(13)/2RBI, Vargas 2-3/Sac Fly/2RBI, Hanson 2-3/double/BB/R/RBI, Wimberly 3-5/double/R/RBI, THomas 2-4/double/BB/3R/SB(6)

Gilmartin 4-2 8IP 4H/2R/9K
Oliveros IP K

Gilmartin can really pitch. Shouldn't he be at AAA?




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2014 9:44:19 PM)

Yes he should. Nothing left to prove there. He'll be in AAA in a couple of weeks when Meyer moves up.

Sucks on Rosario. Continue to play him at 2b. He's so much more valuable there. I'm still dubious, but hell, he's been so good at 2b I would at least LOOK at Dozier at SS again.




wethrock -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2014 11:21:14 PM)

Gilmartin throws at about 88-89, with good control and good changeup. But, he's coming off some type of shoulder injury from 2013.




wethrock -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2014 11:23:19 PM)

Daniel Ortiz could be a sleeper. He had a strong 1st half of 2013, then lost maybe 30 points off batting average. Now, he's hot and looking better than his good first-half of 2013. Not a HR hitter, but plenty of gap doubles.




twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/20/2014 11:25:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wethrock

Daniel Ortiz could be a sleeper. He had a strong 1st half of 2013, then lost maybe 30 points off batting average. Now, he's hot and looking better than his good first-half of 2013. Not a HR hitter, but plenty of gap doubles.

Great news on the gap doubles. Better than HR's anyway.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/22/2014 5:35:27 AM)

Wednesday

Roch off

NB lost 7-5

Ortiz (mentioned above) 3-4/triple/solo HR(4), 2R/RBI/E(4), Kvasnicka 1-4/solo HR(3)/Assist @ 2nd, Wimberly 3-5/triple/2R/2SB(9), Hanson 2-5/2RBI

Dean 2-2 4.1IP 9H/5R/4ER/BB/2HR
Fuller 1.2IP 0-1 IRS 2H/K
Baxendale IP 2H/BB
Summers IP 2H/2R/BB/K
O'Rourke IP H


FtM lost 4-2

Mejia 2-4/double/R, Harrison 2-4/R

Hurlbut 3-2 6IP 6H/4R/BB/3K/HR
Shibuya IP H/2K
Peterson IP


CRapids lost 9-4

Kanzler 2-4/3R HR(3), Christensen 2-4/R,Garver 1-4/R/RBI

Jorge 2-5 2.2IP 7H/7R/5BB/2K/HR
Bixler 1.1IP 1-1 IRS 5H/2R/BB/2K
Penilla 3Ip 2H/BB/5K
Boyd 2IP 2BB/K




Dave E -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/22/2014 7:56:17 AM)

I hear Vargas hurt his wrist in BP yesterday...it's a GD epidemic.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/22/2014 2:02:30 PM)

5. Minnesota Twins
Tyler Beede
Position: RHP
Size: 6-4, 215
School: Vanderbilt
The Twins have been smartly and gradually rebuilding their system, beginning with outfielder Byron Buxton, who is currently the closest thing in the minors to Mike Trout. Beede, drafted but not signed by Toronto in 2011, is a righty with top-of-the-rotation stuff who could find his way to Target Field within two years. He has a mid-90s fastball but he needs to mix his pitches more, and his curveball, while good, is inconsistent. He profiles as a No. 2 starter.



Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20140522/mlb-mock-draft-2014-carlos-rodon-dave-perkin/#ixzz32TMmyXRG

Mock draft

2 years in MN....

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Maybe as part of the Twins fest, when he's in FtM or AA...in 3 or 4 years.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/22/2014 2:15:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

5. Minnesota Twins
Tyler Beede
Position: RHP
Size: 6-4, 215
School: Vanderbilt
The Twins have been smartly and gradually rebuilding their system, beginning with outfielder Byron Buxton, who is currently the closest thing in the minors to Mike Trout. Beede, drafted but not signed by Toronto in 2011, is a righty with top-of-the-rotation stuff who could find his way to Target Field within two years. He has a mid-90s fastball but he needs to mix his pitches more, and his curveball, while good, is inconsistent. He profiles as a No. 2 starter.



Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20140522/mlb-mock-draft-2014-carlos-rodon-dave-perkin/#ixzz32TMmyXRG

Mock draft

2 years in MN....

[&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:][&:]


Maybe as part of the Twins fest, when he's in FtM or AA...in 3 or 4 years.


TWO YEARS?

Try SIX.

First year he wont get out of rookie league.
Second year he will struggle because his elbow's a little sore.
Year three he will barely get guys out at High A for the first month, then he will spend the next four resting the elbow cause it was misdiagnosed by the medicall staff on crack. AFTER the season he will have TJ surgery and
Miss year four,
Year five start over in AA and climb to AAA.
Year six he will be a september callup and by this point will be nothing but bullpen fodder.

THAT's TWIN's developement!




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/22/2014 8:38:15 PM)

Roch won tonight 2-1

Arcia 1-4/RBI/SB(1), Fryer 1-3/double/R,Nelson 1-2/BB/Solo HR(1)

Meyer 5.1IP 6H/R/2BB/5K
Pino 6-1 1.2IP 0-3 IRS 4H/3K
Thompson .2IP K
Tonkin 1.1IP H/K/Save(2)


NB suspended in the 2nd inning(rain)

FTM Lost 7-5

Walker 2-4/2R HR(8), Gonzales 1-4/Solo HR(4), Hicks 1-3/double/SFly/R/RBI, Harrison 1-3/BB/R/


Wimmers 2-3 4IP 7H/6R/5BB/4K
Melotakis 3IP 2H/R/BB
Gruver IP BB




sixthwi -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/22/2014 9:27:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Roch won tonight 2-1

Arcia 1-4/RBI/SB(1), Fryer 1-3/double/R,Nelson 1-2/BB/Solo HR(1)

Meyer 5.1IP 6H/R/2BB/5K
Pino 6-1 1.2IP 0-3 IRS 4H/3K
Thompson .2IP K
Tonkin 1.1IP H/K/Save(2)


NB suspended in the 2nd inning(rain)

FTM Lost 7-5

Walker 2-4/2R HR(8), Gonzales 1-4/Solo HR(4), Hicks 1-3/double/SFly/R/RBI, Harrison 1-3/BB/R/


Wimmers 2-3 4IP 7H/6R/5BB/4K
Melotakis 3IP 2H/R/BB
Gruver IP BB


Maybe Wimmers needs to pull a Bartlett.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/22/2014 10:06:06 PM)

CRapids lost 11-6

Garver 2-4/double/R/2RBI,Kanzler 2-4/Solo HR(4)/2R, Haar 2-4/double/R/RBi

Slegers 4-2 3IP 13H/10R/9ER/2K/HR
Wilson 3IP BB/4K
Landa 2IP H/R/BB/5k




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/23/2014 10:11:15 AM)

BA's 3rd mock coming out next week will project the Twins taking Tyler Kolek with the fifth overall pick June 5.

HS arms that throw so hard, that young make orgs leery. Over the years they are proven to be big health risks. Same thought process that Kohl Stewart went through last year.




David Levine -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/23/2014 10:33:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Stacey King

BA's 3rd mock coming out next week will project the Twins taking Tyler Kolek with the fifth overall pick June 5.

HS arms that throw so hard, that young make orgs leery. Over the years they are proven to be big health risks. Same thought process that Kohl Stewart went through last year.


Yes please.

I'd risk it.




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/23/2014 10:44:45 AM)

actually it is out today already.

3.0
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In our third mock draft, Baseball America is no longer projecting North Carolina State lefthander Carlos Rodon to go No. 1 overall.

Rodon’s last home start, May 9 against Wake Forest, was a seven-inning effort that he finished after a 1 hour, 15-minute rain delay. Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow and Marlins GM Dan Jennings attended the game, along with Rodon’s adviser, Scott Boras.

There was concern when Rodon re-entered the game after the delay, though multiple sources on hand have confirmed that while his stuff was crisper before the delay, his command and feel for pitching were better after. Rodon pitched just five innings the following Thursday at Virginia Tech, lacking his usual go-to power slider, though he sat in the 91-93 mph range.

N.C. State did not use Rodon on three days’ rest in its Atlantic Coast Conference play-in game against rival North Carolina, and the 4-3 loss likely ended the team’s season and Rodon’s college career. N.C. State sources have said that Rodon was physically ready to pitch, and coach Elliott Avent said afterward that Rodon had meant too much to the university over his career to risk using him on short rest.

Rodon’s 6-7, 2.01 season (with 117 strikeouts in 98.2 innings) compares favorably to the junior season of righthander Gerrit Cole in 2011, when Cole went No. 1 overall despite an iffy junior year for UCLA (6-8, 3.31, 114 IP/119 SO). But Cole was touching 100 mph that season, still bringing his best stuff to the mound regularly.

“The $6 million question is whether or not he is athletic enough to start long-term,” one executive said this week. “Some guys think he is, but other guys aren’t so sure and think he may wind up a reliever. It just seems like there isn’t a $6 million player in this draft.”

If the Astros agree with that assessment, then they won’t be selecting Rodon No. 1 overall.

1. ASTROS
If all of that is true, then Houston likely will select San Diego prep lefty Brady Aiken, who has an easier delivery and better body than Rodon.

Projected Pick: LHP Brady Aiken

2. MARLINS: One Marlins source insists owner Jeffrey Loria will not step in and dictate that the club select Rodon, a Cuban-American who was born in Miami, if he is available at No. 2 overall. Industry sources continue to point toward San Diego prep catcher Alex Jackson, even if they think he’ll have to move from behind the plate.

Projected Pick: C/OF Alex Jackson

3. WHITE SOX: Rodon and slender South Side ace Chris Sale would make an interesting odd couple as well as a potentially formidable rotation duo.

Projected Pick: LHP Carlos Rodon

4. CUBS: The Cubs would love for Rodon to fall here and would like a college pitcher. But injuries to East Carolina righthander Jeff Hoffman and UNLV righthander Erick Fedde and Texas Christian lefthander Brandon Finnegan’s recent slide have thinned that crop. Team president Theo Epstein was part of a Cubs contingent checking out Kennesaw State catcher Max Pentecost at the Atlantic Sun Conference tournament this week in Fort Myers, Fla. If the Cubs aren’t comfortable with Texas prep fireballer Tyler Kolek or Louisiana State righthander Aaron Nola, they appear poised to take Pentecost, who could sign a money-saving deal that would allow the Cubs flexibility later in the draft.

Projected Pick: C Max Pentecost

5. TWINS: Minnesota’s concerted effort to get more power arms in recent years synchronizes well with Kolek’s availability in this scenario.

Projected Pick: RHP Tyler Kolek

6. MARINERS: Mariners officials, including GM Jack Zduriencik, have been in hard of late to evaluate Hartford lefthander Sean Newcomb and N.C. State shortstop Trea Turner. If the Mariners are under pressure to take a college player, either would make sense, but so would Florida high school shortstop Nick Gordon, generally considered a better prospect and a Seattle target for much of the spring.

Projected Pick: SS Nick Gordon




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/23/2014 11:27:14 AM)

PJ Walters, who made 20 combined starts for the Twins the past two seasons (4-10, 5.79 ERA), is getting shelled at Triple-A Omaha for the Kansas City Royals organization. Over his last five starts, Walters, 29, has a 13.80 ERA with 23 earned runs allowed in just 15 innings.

AROUND THE MINORS

–Josh Willingham singled in four at-bats on Thursday as the designated hitter for Triple-A Rochester. He is now 3 for 20 (.150) with one extra-base hit (a double) on his rehab assignment.

–Shortstop Pedro Florimon went 0 for 3 and is now 6 for 33 (.182) since his demotion to Triple-A.

–Alex Meyer allowed one run on six hits and two walks in 5 1/3 innings. His season ERA is 3.55, and he has thrown 45 2/3 innings with one start left in May. That puts him on pace for around 125 innings by the time the Triple-A season ends in early September.

–Michael Tonkin recorded a four-out save for Rochester in his first outing since being sent down to make room for an extra position player (Chris Herrmann) on the Twins’ big-league roster.

–Class A Fort Myers right-hander Alex Wimmers, the Twins’ 2010 first-round pick, issued a season-high five walks in just four innings while taking the loss at Dunedin on Thursday. Wimmers, in his first full year back from Tommy John surgery, has allowed three or more walks in four of his past six starts. He allowed seven hits, including three doubles, along with six earned runs and also hit a batter.

–Fort Myers right fielder Adam Brett Walker II moved into a tie for second in the Florida State League with his eighth homer of the year on Thursday. Walker ranks third in the FSL with 34 runs batted in, but he’s also second in strikeouts with 55.

–Cedar Rapids right-hander Aaron Slegers gave up 10 earned runs on a whopping 14 hits — including four doubles, a triple and a three-run homer — in just three-plus innings on Thursday. Slegers, a fifth-round pick out of Indiana University last June, failed to retire any of the four batters he faced in the fourth as his ERA spiked to 5.36.

–2013 Opening Day starter Vance Worley is scheduled to make his fourth start for Triple-A Indianapolis (Pirates) today. The Vanimal, sent to the Pirates for cash in late March, has gone 1-1 with a 2.34 ERA with a trio of quality starts in the International League. His pitch count has slowly risen from 75 coming out of extended spring training to 88 in his last outing as the Pirates seek to make him their latest reclamation projection.

–Class A lefty Miguel Sulburan, the pitching prospect the Twins traded to the New York Yankees for utility man Eduardo Nunez on April 7, is pitching to a 4.22 ERA through 21 1/3 innings in the Florida State League. The stocky Venezuelan is striking out just 5.48 batters per nine innings, however; his career rate is 8.14 K/9.




twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/23/2014 12:07:56 PM)

PJ Walters, who made 20 combined starts for the Twins the past two seasons (4-10, 5.79 ERA), is getting shelled at Triple-A Omaha for the Kansas City Royals organization. Over his last five starts, Walters, 29, has a 13.80 ERA with 23 earned runs allowed in just 15 innings.

Honestly, how can they keep running him out there? That's gotta be painful for the Omaha Royals fans. No reason a scrub like that should be taking up prospect time from anyone. He should realize it's time to retire. That's a sustained (5 straight starts) time of complete sucktitude. At AAA!




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/23/2014 12:29:47 PM)

#MNTwins had VP Mike Radcliff & national crosschecker Tim O'Neil watching LSU's Aaron Nola yesterday in SEC Tourney. He was great. Hit 96.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/23/2014 10:41:16 PM)

Friday night:

Roch 7-1 winner

Arcia 3-5/double/3R HR(5)/2R/4RBI (WASTING HIM IN AAA YOU FOOLS), Willingham 2-4/double/BB/2R HR(1)/2R, Farris 2-4/BB/R,Nelson 2-5

Pelfrey 1-0 5IP 4H/2BB
Ibarra 2IP 2H/R/BB/4K/HR
Guerra 2IP 2K


NB 3-2 loss

Ortiz 2-4/RBI, Wimberly 2-4/R/SB(10), Rodrigues 2-4/double

Rogers 6Ip 6H/2R/1ER/3BB/5K
Johnson 0-2 2Ip 2H/R/2K/HR

FtM won 4-2

Walker 1-4/Solo HR(9), Mejia 1-3/BB/2RBI/SB(6), Grimes 2-4/R

Wheeler 3-4 6IP 7H/2R/1ER/BB/4K
Gilbert 2IP BB
TJones IP BB/K/Save(3)


CRapids was 3-hit 9-0

Kanzler 1-4/double

Eades 3-6 3.2IP 10H/9R/4BB/3K/HR
Muren 2.1IP 0-1 IRS 2H/BB
Van Steensel 2IP H/K




sixthwi -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/23/2014 10:49:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Friday night:

Roch 7-1 winner

Arcia 3-5/double/3R HR(5)/2R/4RBI (WASTING HIM IN AAA YOU FOOLS), Willingham 2-4/double/BB/2R HR(1)/2R, Farris 2-4/BB/R,Nelson 2-5

Pelfrey 1-0 5IP 4H/2BB
Ibarra 2IP 2H/R/BB/4K/HR
Guerra 2IP 2K


NB 3-2 loss

Ortiz 2-4/RBI, Wimberly 2-4/R/SB(10), Rodrigues 2-4/double

Rogers 6Ip 6H/2R/1ER/3BB/5K
Johnson 0-2 2Ip 2H/R/2K/HR

FtM won 4-2

Walker 1-4/Solo HR(9), Mejia 1-3/BB/2RBI/SB(6), Grimes 2-4/R

Wheeler 3-4 6IP 7H/2R/1ER/BB/4K
Gilbert 2IP BB
TJones IP BB/K/Save(3)


CRapids was 3-hit 9-0

Kanzler 1-4/double

Eades 3-6 3.2IP 10H/9R/4BB/3K/HR
Muren 2.1IP 0-1 IRS 2H/BB
Van Steensel 2IP H/K


Pelfrey pitched 5 innings and had no strikeouts - TRyan you are a freakin' genius.




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/23/2014 11:13:37 PM)

uh oh.....very bad sign


According to the stadium radar gun at Scranton, Pelfrey worked mostly at 87-88 mph tonight. Hit 90 a few times, touched 91 a time or two.




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/23/2014 11:14:38 PM)

Pelfrey
$11M straight down the toilet.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/24/2014 8:09:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Stacey King

Pelfrey
$11M straight down the toilet.


Recoup on insurance if he's injured...which he probably is.

Or is

JUST

DONE




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/24/2014 9:06:25 PM)

Roch lost Sat night 2-0. Five hits

Beresford 3-4/double, Arcia 1-4, Bernier 1-3


Darnell 1-2 6IP 3H/2R/2BB/4K/HR
Pressly 2IP H/2K


FtM overcame FIVE errors, won 6-5

Goodrum 1-3/BB/Solo HR(1)/SB(10), Gonzales 2-4/2R HR(5), Harrison 2-2/double(14)/BB/R/RBI, Walker 1-3/double/BB/2R,Kepler 1-4/double/RBI/2E(3),Rodriguez 2-4/RBI

Lee 5-1 6IP 6H/4UER/2BB/4K
Shibuya 1.1IP 4H/R/BB/2K
Gruver IP 0-3 IRS
Boer .2IP 2K/Save(5)

CRapids lost 5-2

Walker 2-4/RBI,Kanzler 2-4/R,Vielma 1-3/RBI/2SB(5)

Mildren 0-3 5.1Ip 5H/5R/4ER/2BB/K/2HR/E(1)
Bixler 1.2IP H/K
Boyd IP




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