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TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 10:56:21 AM)

I get that, but it's not like the guy 5-10 and 165 lbs. He's the same height as Johan Santana. Johan is a little heavier, but he is older. Berrios is only 20 years old. To say he is destined for the bullpen at this point is borderline stupid.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 10:57:55 AM)

Here you go you cheap bastards. [:D] Seriously, Insider cost me $1 this year.

Buxton (Correa is #3 btw; we really couldn't screw up that pick):
AVG: .234OBP: .307OPS: .702HR: 4SB: 6
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Very little went right in 2014 for Lord Byron, who suffered everything but leeching during a season that saw him healthy enough for just 181 total at-bats, including his stint in the Arizona Fall League that also ended due to an injury. Buxton remained in great physical shape throughout his ordeals, and in October he still showed most of the same tools that made him baseball's best prospect going into 2014, though the rust in his bat was evident and he has lost a lot of important development time.

At full strength and health, Buxton is an 80 runner with an 80 arm and is capable of playing at least grade-70 defense in center field. His bat is quick and his hands are strong enough to drive the ball out to the gaps. He's more balanced than he was as an amateur, using his back leg more to generate power, which should end up above-average by the time he reaches his peak in his mid- to late 20s. His pitch recognition turned out to be better than expected -- given his background in rural Georgia, with few showcase appearances -- but lack of reps in 2014 meant he couldn't continue to improve in that regard, and he struggled to pick up sliders in fall league. His star ceiling hasn't changed, but the missing 400 or so at-bats around the wrist injury, the dislocated finger and the concussion have pushed his timetable back as much as a full year.

Top level: Double-A (New Britain) | 2014 rank: 1

Sano:
AVG: .236OBP: .344OPS: .915HR: 19SB: 2
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Stats listed are from 2013. Didn't play in 2014 due to injury.

Sano missed all of 2014 after Tommy John surgery and is expected to be ready to go this spring training, but the loss of a full year of at-bats -- he didn't even play in the AFL or winter ball -- won't do his development or timetable any favors. When healthy, Sano has grade-80 raw power, with the potential to hit 30-35 homers a year in the majors, generating that output with a rotational swing that makes good use of his hips and legs. He's done a good job of improving his ball/strike recognition, but will probably always be a 150-plus strikeout guy, as he can overswing and expands his zone when behind in the count.

He's always been rough at third base, and if the arm doesn't come all the way back, that'll speed his move to another position, likely first base due to his sheer size, although the bat will profile anywhere on the field. It may take him a few weeks or months to shake off the rust, and he's more likely to see the majors in 2016 than 2015. He's still the Twins' cleanup hitter of the future now that this injury is completely behind him.

Top level: Double-A (New Britain) | 2014 rank: 8

Meyer:
W-L: 7-7ERA: 3.52IP: 130.1SO: 153BB: 64
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Meyer still hasn't quite put everything together to be a front-line starting pitching prospect, but he's closer than he's been before, and with two plus pitches and a history of durability he would be wasting some of his talent if he had to go to the bullpen. Meyer has hit 100 mph and sits in the mid-90s with huge sink that will kill a lot of worms at Target Field, with a vicious slider up to 90 mph or so that kills right-handed batters. His control wavers, although taller pitchers often need more reps and time to get their deliveries in sync, and his discomfort with his changeup has long held him back against left-handed hitters. He altered his grip early in 2014, but wasn't that confident in the pitch until the end of the summer, when the Twins feel like it finally clicked for him (although it's really not even an average pitch on its own).

Anything that keeps left-handed hitters, who see the ball better from his low three-quarters slot, off his fastball is a good thing, and might allow him to jump into Minnesota's rotation this year, where the major league staff can continue to work with him on hitting the lower end of the zone.

Top level: Triple-A (Rochester) | 2014 rank: 62

Gordon: AVG: .294OBP: .333OPS: .699HR: 1SB: 11
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Gordon, the son of Tom Gordon and half-brother of Marlins second baseman Dee, was the fourth pick in the 2014 draft and the first position player taken, a testament to his very advanced feel for the game and ability to play a key position in the middle of the diamond. Gordon was a sophomore on Olympia High School's team when Jesse Winker was a senior, and he spent two summers out at showcases, so scouts have a lot of history seeing him. He also has played a lot of games against very good competition. He improved his footwork and hands at short this spring, to the point at which I think he'll stay at the position and play it well. He has the arm to play anywhere on the diamond but would probably have to go to center field if for some reason he can't stay at short.

His bat-to-ball skill is strong, and he has a good approach for his age, with doubles power at best and above-average but not plus speed, so drawing more walks to post a high OBP will be key for Gordon as he moves up the ladder. His ceiling is an everyday shortstop who can hit leadoff in a good lineup; the floor might be more of an 8- or 9-hole hitter if he doesn't develop a more patient approach.

Top level: Rookie (Elizabethton) | 2014 rank: Ineligible

Stewart:
W-L: 3-5ERA: 2.59IP: 87SO: 62BB: 24
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Stewart was a top football recruit, signed to Texas A&M to succeed Johnny Whatever We're Calling Him These Days, but always had a huge ceiling as a pitcher once he committed to baseball full-time and started receiving some real instruction on his delivery. He'll show four pitches, any or all of which could end up as plus, with a fastball already up to 97 mph and a slider that is probably closest to being a true swing-and-miss offering. He's a great athlete, as you'd expect, and the Twins have already started to refine his delivery to the point he can at least throw more strikes, although it is control over command, because in low Class A, he can pump it down the middle and the hitters might not even see it.

Stewart has the potential to front a rotation given a few more years of development; he might have to learn to pitch at 92-94 first so he can develop some command, and he needs to work in particular on his changeup before Double-A hitters force him to do so.

Top level: Class A (Cedar Rapids) | 2014 rank: 76

Berrios:
W-L: 12-8ERA: 2.77IP: 139.2SO: 140BB: 38
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Berrios was the Twins' second first-round pick in 2012, going 30 picks after Minnesota took Byron Buxton, and he has blown through the low minors with impressive strikeout rates. He'll pitch at 93-96 with his four-seamer, working up in the zone with it because he can blow it by a lot of minor league hitters, pairing it with a 75-79 mph curveball and a hard changeup in the mid-80s. The curveball is his best secondary pitch, tight when he finishes it but not consistent enough yet, while his changeup works when he keeps it down, but overall it's too firm. His arm action reminds me of Yordano Ventura's; it's loose, quick, very easy, maybe a little too arm-heavy (meaning he doesn't use his legs as much as he could). As a six-foot right-hander, Berrios doesn't get any plane on his four-seamer, so he's fly ball-prone and will probably run into more trouble with home runs as he moves up the ladder. Also, he left a start in late July with a sore shoulder. He skipped just one turn in the rotation, but he was just less sharp in general late in the season.

I've seen Berrios a number of times, dating back to the Excellence Games in his native Puerto Rico in 2012, and I've always had a sense Berrios' height and lack of life or plane on his fastball would push him to the bullpen. He has the ceiling of a third or fourth MLB starter if he keeps missing bats and can tighten up both off-speed pitches.

Top level: Triple-A (Rochester) | 2014 rank: Unranked




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 10:58:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I get that, but it's not like the guy 5-10 and 165 lbs. He's the same height as Johan Santana. Johan is a little heavier, but he is older. Berrios is only 20 years old. To say he is destined for the bullpen at this point is borderline stupid.


Yes, but the odds were very much against Santana too. That's all. Like Teddy, everyone will come on board for Berrios soon. [8|]




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 11:02:27 AM)

I'm a little surprised Lewis Thorpe didn't make the top 100. I suspect he'll be there next year if he avoids injury. Still very high on him, and he's produced.

Of other note: Oswaldo's little brother Orlando (a stud SS prospect) checks in at #54 on the list, right behind Stewart.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 11:05:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I find it really surprising how long it is taking scouts to warm up to Berrios.



Law, as in Keith Law is the the guy that stated the whole bullpen thing. The same dipshit that doesn't think we go any help from the Minors in 2014...

Pedro Martinez just went into the HOF after a stellar career. He's not that big a fella.
Johan Santana won two cys, and should have won a third if the writers weren't so stupid. He's not that big either.

Why do scouts etc always put so much weight into size?




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 11:08:21 AM)

For the scouting of pitchers it is all about downward plane, generally it is very important for long term success.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 11:15:07 AM)

Yes, there's always exceptions to the rule. But Scott, the very fact that you can point those guys out speaks to that. For scouting it's about increasing chances of success. I believe in Berrios probably more than anyone on here, but I certainly understand the odds are against him.




TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 11:15:13 AM)

Berrios has been working on a 2 seam fastball in the off-season for that reason.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 1:38:30 PM)

Law chat notes:

Ian (MPLS)

Lots of people in MN think Stewart is a bust b/c of his low strike out totals. Can you calm them down?
Klaw (1:48 PM)

That's stupid. He's barely out of HS and was as much a thrower as a pitcher when he was drafted. I think the Twins have already done a hell of a job with him.

Tim (Minneapolis, MN)

Correa breaks his leg, loses a season and climbs in the rankings but Sano loses a season and gets dropped 10 spots? What gives?
Klaw (1:48 PM)

Correa didn't lose a season. Try again.

Roger (NY)

Hard to believe that the same front office with 6 top 100 prospects just threw away a draft pick on Michael Cuddyer. How does something like that happen?
Klaw (1:56 PM)

I'm assuming there was a real internal disconnect on that one.

JG (MN)

I'm hoping you're wrong on Berrios, although 97th isn't necessarily awful. He looked pretty darn good against older competition in the Futures Game and WBC. Being a fly ball type of guy at Target Field can't hurt right?
Klaw (1:59 PM)

I don't think being a flyball guy is a good thing unless you're in Petco or AT&T Park. And Berrios' fastball is going to get squared up.

Mike (Holden, MA)

Is Max Kepler completely out of time at this point to become a viable major leaguer?
Klaw (2:02 PM)

No, not at all. I think he's a big leaguer in some form, but to be an everyday player his BP power must show up in games.

Justin (Texas)

Folks do realize that it takes more than 100 players to make up all of MLB? Just because someone isn't on this list doesn't mean he should quit baseball.
Klaw (2:15 PM)

Exactly. Someone got mad on Twitter because he said I called Wisler a non-prospect. The 105th-best prospect in baseball is not a non-prospect.

Jon [via mobile]

You knocked Beede for not performing well under pressure, but you have made it clear that you do not believe in 'clutch' performances. What is the difference?
Klaw (2:19 PM)

Really? The "clutch" myth says some players can play better under pressure or in critical situations. That's BS on its face, unsupported by data.

EC (DC)

RE: Cano - So weird that someone would knock a latin players effort. Almost like it's never happened before and has nothing to do with where they're from/color of their skin.
Klaw (2:19 PM)

While I completely agree that players of color are more quickly labelled lazy or "dogs," in Cano's case, he was lazy. He grew up. It happens.




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 1:45:26 PM)

Dudes got kind of a smart mouth doesn't he? [&:]




David Levine -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 1:49:17 PM)

I was just going to say Law is kind of an ass, isn't he?




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 1:51:13 PM)

An internet wise-ass
a growing legion




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 2:04:48 PM)

He definitely is. And acknowledges it. But I kind of enjoy it. A lot of the questions in his chats really ARE stupid. Most of the time it's "why isn't my guy rated higher?" blah blah blah

I met him a few years ago at the winter meetings and he probably does have a bit of a small man complex. Writers, like musicians/actors, are generally that way. Stark, Olney, Gammons, Kurkjian, etc. are all tiny. But Law is REALLY tiny. I was expecting him to be a bit of an ass. But he was extremely nice and we talked for probably 10-15 minutes about not just baseball but restaurants, etc. I really think it's mostly a schtick. Of course you'll hear much the same from guys about Bonds and how he'll be incredible personally to people and is actually a great guy; just hated the press, etc.

For the record; both Kurkjian and Olney are truly great guys and couldn't be nicer.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/29/2015 2:13:34 PM)

I should have posted this first along with the list:

• The rankings are limited to players who still have rookie eligibility; that means they have yet to exceed 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the majors and have not yet spent 45 days on the active roster of a major league club, excluding call-ups during the roster expansion period after Sept. 1. That means Milwaukee Brewers infielder Luis Sardinas, for instance, is ineligible, based on his days on the 25-man roster.

• Only players who have signed professional contracts are eligible.

• I do not consider players with professional experience in Japan or Korea "prospects" for the purpose of this exercise, which means no Jung-Ho Kang this year (among others). I also exclude Cuban players who are considered professional free agents by Major League Baseball by virtue of their experience in Cuba's Serie Nacional de Béisbol. This list includes Rusney Castillo and Yasmany Tomas, but will consider Cuban players whom MLB treats as amateurs, like Roberto Baldoquin (who just missed this list) and Yoan Lopez.

• When ranking players, I consider scouting reports on players -- usually my own, supplemented with conversations with other scouts and front-office executives as needed -- as well as performance, adjusted for age and context. I've made one adjustment in my ranking philosophy in recent years, favoring higher-upside prospects over lower-ceiling prospects who are closer to the majors. This better reflects how these players are valued now by front offices and scouting departments, and gives me a chance to deliver more information on prospects whose names or scouting reports might be new to you.

• I use the 20-80 grading scale in these comments to avoid saying "average" and "above average" thousands of times across the 100 player comments. On that scale, a grade of 50 equals major league average, 55 is above average, 60 is plus, 45 is fringy or below average and so on. Giancarlo Stanton has 80 raw power. David Ortiz has 20 speed. Carlos Gomez is an 80 defender. An average fastball for a right-hander is 90-92 mph, with 1-2 mph off for a lefty.

• I've included last year's rank for players who appeared in the top 100 in 2014. An "ineligible" player was still an amateur at this time last January, whereas an "unranked" player was eligible but didn't make the cut. I've also tagged players who were on last year's sleepers list or list of 10 players who just missed the cut.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/30/2015 11:20:46 AM)

Law:

Organization Ranking: 2

I've ranked every farm system, as well as the top 100 MLB prospects for 2015. Below, I've ranked at least the top 10 Twins prospects, plus an overview of the system and any other names of note beyond the top 10. I also discuss any prospects who might help the big league club in 2015, one or two prospects whose stock has taken a big hit in the past year, and a sleeper prospect who I think can jump into the main top-100 list for 2016. Top 10 prospects

1. Byron Buxton, CF
2. Miguel Sano, 3B
3. Alex Meyer, RHP
4. Nick Gordon, SS
5. Kohl Stewart, RHP
6. Jose Berrios, RHP
7. Lewis Thorpe, LHP
8. Eddie Rosario, CF/2B
9. Jorge Polanco, SS
10. Amaurys Minier, LF/1B

Overview

The Twins returned just about every prospect in their system, with Josmil Pinto, Danny Santana, and Kennys Vargas the only graduations of note. Of those, only Pinto was in the Twins' top 10 last winter. Part of that is that Sano missed the whole year with Tommy John surgery, and Buxton missed most of it with a series of unfortunate events, so neither guy will see the majors until at least the middle of 2015, with Meyer and Trevor May (11) the most likely Twins prospects to help the major-league club on or shortly after Opening Day.

The Twins' system remains quite deep even after their MLB-high six top-100 prospects. Rosario is probably a centerfielder for the near future after a few years of splitting time between there and second base, never really looking comfortable on the dirt; the bigger concern is that he came back from a suspension for a failed drug test and, for the first time in his career, didn't hit. Polanco is a better bet than Santana (whose 2014 MLB line was largely fueled by a fluky .405 BABIP) to be a long-term regular, probably at second base but with an outside chance to stay at shortstop. He has a better overall approach than Santana, and started running better this year, giving the Twins more hope for him at short. Minier is the deep sleeper here, a big kid who doesn't really have a position, but can hit and hit for power from both sides of the plate. He's going to be huge, 220-230 pounds or more when he's fully grown, which will limit where he can play on the field.

May might end up a back-end starter in the majors, maybe as good as a No. 4 who's occasionally league-average, if his command permits it. The Twins grabbed three high-end college relievers in the 2014 draft, with Jake Reed (12) leapfrogging Nick Burdi (13) and Michael Cederoth (18) so far in pro ball, thanks to a 93-97 mph fastball with plus life, although he needs to ramp up his hard slurve to be a potential eighth or ninth inning guy. Burdi can sit 98-100 mph, and he blew it by A-ball hitters over the summer; he won't be challenged to locate anything until at least Double-A.

Max Kepler (14) still has the physical tools and the athletic build that made him the first real prospect to come out of Germany, but until his power starts showing up in games it's hard to see him as more than an up-and-down bench bat. He had such limited experience against real pitching as an amateur that he's always been a bit behind for his age, and still has just over 1,300 pro plate appearances across five years in the system, so he has the factors you'd expect to see in a late bloomer. Chih-Wei Hu (16) is a 5-foot-11 right-hander who pitched well in 10 appearances in low-A at age 20, touching 95 mph but with a flat fastball, succeeding more on command and control than raw stuff. Travis Harrison (17) is in left field full time now, but showed no power at all in the Florida State League. Lefty Stephen Gonsalves (18) pitched well at two levels -- his last start of the year pushed his low-A ERA up by over a run -- but still doesn't have even a fringy breaking ball to go with his plus split-change. Both Mason Melotakis and Fernando Romero had Tommy John surgery; Romero might be back midyear but Melotakis is done until 2016.

2015 impact

Meyer should make the Twins' rotation this year; May could get some spot starts or help in relief. Sano and Buxton should surface later in the year as long as their health permits it. Reed or Burdi could race to the majors if the Twins are willing to be aggressive in their first full years in the minors.

The fallen

Second baseman Levi Michael (15) was the Twins' first-round pick in 2011 but has missed almost a full year of playing time in the last two seasons around foot and ankle injuries, and when he's played he's shown zero power, with seven home runs in 1,168 career PA.

Sleeper

I don't usually like to repeat guys as sleepers, but Lewis Thorpe seems about ready to make that leap this year after falling just a little short in 2014. He improved his conditioning for 2014, showed better control, and has three pitches that are or project as plus. He should crack the top 100 next year with a full season in Fort Myers.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/30/2015 11:24:54 AM)

Interesting thoughts on Santana/Polanco in there. I hope he's wrong on Santana. I figured that was what he thought of Thorpe. Barring injury, I think he'll make a major jump on most prospect lists after this year. Good stuff on Minier as well. I think a lot of people have compared him to a Juan Uribe type.

After thinking about it, my "top 10" would be a lot closer to Law's than it has been. Because it's a question of "would you trade this guy for that guy" in the end to me. Obviously Buxton is a cut above everyone, and Sano/Meyer are as well given ceiling and proximity to the majors. But I wouldn't trade Gordon for Berrios or Stewart. I probably wouldn't trade Berrios for Stewart, as high as I am on him. And I wouldn't trade any of those 3 guys plus Thorpe for Rosario, purely because of ceiling/position. A true SS or good SP is just more valuable than a solid LF'er.




MDK -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/30/2015 12:45:36 PM)

Ok....so Santana posted above average BABIP. So he shows regression. Why wouldn't he......he batted an ops of 824 and an ops+ of 130. Of course that is probably unsustainable.

But he also posted an obp of 353. Compare that to Mr. Paul / Ben Revere who ops is a career 664 simply becausee he has zero, absolutely zero power and doesn't get on base enough to complement a near 300 BA.

If Santana can post and ops of 750 from the shortstop position, who wouldn't be please with that? That would have lead the AL last year with 726 the highest from anyone qualifying.

Think of Punto at short when he got 359 at bats in 2009 and posted the amazingly high ops of 621.

Santana has speed, can drive the ball and has a pretty good eye and seems to improve as the at bats go on.

He had 78 at bats in the first inning and posted an ops of 704. He gets better after seeing a pitcher again. He learns........as they said in Jurassic Park, Clever Girl.

And the best thing about Santana.......we have that bat from an infield position. A key defensive position.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/30/2015 12:49:41 PM)

As you know I'm a Santana convert, Miles. Really like him, but I'm still very concerned in his plate discipline. He may just be one of those guys that's such a high contact guy, like Vlad or Puckett were, but a 98/19 K/BB ratio in 430 PA's is concerning, especially for a speed guy. He has to improve in that regard to keep hitting IMO. I'm hoping he will. No question he's a lot better than what we've had there for a long time though, regression or not.




MDK -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/30/2015 12:57:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

As you know I'm a Santana convert, Miles. Really like him, but I'm still very concerned in his plate discipline. He may just be one of those guys that's such a high contact guy, like Vlad or Puckett were, but a 98/19 K/BB ratio in 430 PA's is concerning, especially for a speed guy. He has to improve in that regard to keep hitting IMO. I'm hoping he will. No question he's a lot better than what we've had there for a long time though, regression or not.

I just don't want him taking partial swings to lower his K's and getting outs by hitting weak grounders.

In the past, K's were considered too detrimental in the Twins organization. And as such, we develop such wonderful bat handlers who couldn't drive the ball to save their soul.

I know there is a lot of question marks for this kid but I like his attitude. I wish that Hicks would develop a little of Santana's attitude.




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/30/2015 12:58:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MDK

Ok....so Santana posted above average BABIP. So he shows regression. Why wouldn't he......he batted an ops of 824 and an ops+ of 130. Of course that is probably unsustainable.

But he also posted an obp of 353. Compare that to Mr. Paul / Ben Revere who ops is a career 664 simply becausee he has zero, absolutely zero power and doesn't get on base enough to complement a near 300 BA.

If Santana can post and ops of 750 from the shortstop position, who wouldn't be please with that? That would have lead the AL last year with 726 the highest from anyone qualifying.

Think of Punto at short when he got 359 at bats in 2009 and posted the amazingly high ops of 621.

Santana has speed, can drive the ball and has a pretty good eye and seems to improve as the at bats go on.

He had 78 at bats in the first inning and posted an ops of 704. He gets better after seeing a pitcher again. He learns........as they said in Jurassic Park, Clever Girl.

And the best thing about Santana.......we have that bat from an infield position. A key defensive position.

Welllllllll ... unless you're a redneck 300 pounder.
Then you see "speedy outfielder"




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/30/2015 3:07:48 PM)

With the hope of a new season also comes renewed excitement about the future of baseball and those who could become the game's next household names. That will be the focus of MLB Network this Friday night when it airs a one-hour special revealing MLB.com's Top 50 prospects for the 2015 season.

MLB.com’s annual ranking of the best young prospects in baseball will be revealed on Top 50 Prospects on MLB Network and simulcast on MLB.com this Friday, Jan. 30, at 9:00 p.m. ET. Using information from scouting directors, professional scouts and industry sources, the complete list, which includes the top 100 prospects, is based on a combination of factors to evaluate a player's potential, from physical skills and tools to statistical track record.

To qualify for the list, a prospect must have rookie status for the 2015 season. That eliminates a player like Javier Baez, who broke the 130 at-bat threshold in 2014 despite only joining the Chicago Cubs in August. With that guideline in mind, here are a couple of things to ponder going in that will undoubtedly become the source of debates following the announcement.

Who's No. 1?
Theres no shortage of candidates, beginning with the man who occupied that position last season, Minnesota Twins outfielder Bryon Buxton. Rarely healthy in 2014 after suffering a wrist injury in the spring and later two separate injuries playing the outfield, Buxton hit just .240/.313/.405 with four home runs in 121 at-bats for High-A Fort Myers. He was still promoted to Double-A later and had a stint in the Arizona Fall League, but his durability issues and drop in production may be enough to open the door.

If so, the man most likely to walk through would be Chicago Cubs third base prospect Kris Bryant, who lit up the minors with 43 homers between Double and Triple A. He entered last season as MLB.com's third-ranked prospect.

Others in contention will be Houston Astros shortstop Carlos Correa, who ranked second last year but missed significant time with a broken leg, and Cleveland Indians shortstop Francisco Lindor. Overall it's a talented group at the top that could go 10-12 deep when discussing who belongs in the top five.

How many Cubs make the list?
Even with Baez and Jorge Soler no longer qualifying, Cubs prospects still figure to show up a few times at least in the top 100. Shortstop Addison Russell is a virtual lock to be in the top 10 along with Bryant, but will there be room for catcher Kyle Schwarber, right-hander C.J. Edwards or outfielder Albert Almora in the Top 50? Cubs fans may be turning their attention to the here and now, but that pipeline is still loaded.

Just how deep is shortstop?
According to Baseball America's prospect rankings, shortstops represent the No. 1 prospect in seven out of 30 organizations. That's far and away more than any fielding position. Another four rank No. 2 on their team respective rankings, with the Oakland A's having a shortstop — Daniel Robertson and Franklin Barreto — in each of their top two spots.

It's a deep position at the very top, with Correa, Lindor and Russell all likely in the top 10. But it will be most interesting to see where Corey Seager of the Dodgers, Philadelephia's J. P. Crawford, Minnesota's Nick Gordon and Toronto's Raul Mondesi Jr. slot in, and whether there's room for a Robertson or Trea Turner in the top 50.




djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (2/6/2015 9:09:50 AM)

On Rosario:

Rosario put some questions to bed with a strong six weeks in the AFL. He hit .330/.345/.410 with ten stolen bases and just missed capturing the league's batting title. Rosario's manager in the AFL, Andy Raines, said this about his star hitter:

"He's some kind of hitter. He's special to watch," Salt River manager Andy Haines said. "I saw him on the other side of the field in the Florida State League two years ago -- he just tore us up. I was anxious to see him as a manager, and he might be better than I already thought he was. And my opinion was pretty high.




MDK -> RE: Players and prospects III (2/6/2015 9:21:46 AM)

I watched a short clip on Berrios pitching the other day.....he was simply throwing to a catcher....no batter.

But an absolute smooth and flawless delivery.....and a lot of power/velocity comes from his legs.

One thing going for him with respect to size, a guy like Meyer and his height makes it difficult to have an identical delivery all the time and something Meyer is working hard to achieve.

Berrios.......shorter in stature but an absolute identical delivery every time.

I think Law's assessment that he will be in the bullpen is simply height envy on Law's part. He idolizes the tall guys since he isn't one of them.[;)]




Steve Lentz -> RE: Players and prospects III (2/6/2015 6:09:40 PM)

He dissed my boy Santana? The guy who carried us the last couple months. I agree with Miles analysis. He has some pop in his bat,can run and has an above average arm. I am worried though about what the organization knows that I don't. It seems to me that Santana at SS is far from a done deal.

Levi Michael on the other hand is what I thought he was.




ewen21 -> RE: Players and prospects III (2/7/2015 12:57:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

He dissed my boy Santana? The guy who carried us the last couple months. I agree with Miles analysis. He has some pop in his bat,can run and has an above average arm. I am worried though about what the organization knows that I don't. It seems to me that Santana at SS is far from a done deal.

Levi Michael on the other hand is what I thought he was.


Don't see what the problem with Santana is. He performed above expectations. He will most certainly regress, but then again, even if he regresses to about .280 with good speed and some pop from the infield that isn't anything to worry about.

I could think of another much higher paid player that I am far more concerned about




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