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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/6/2016 3:42:45 PM   
DavidAOlson

 

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Status: offline 		I'm just not concerned about the draft. Knowing that Thib has major input makes me calm.

I'd still feel better if David Levine was in charge, but I've got to hit the lottery to make that dream come true.

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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/6/2016 4:00:41 PM   
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I'm just not concerned about the draft. Knowing that Thib has major input makes me calm.

I'd still feel better if David Levine was in charge, but I've got to hit the lottery to make that dream come true.


This is the least excited about a draft class as I can remember.

There are a handful of guys I like a lot, but I'm not sure any of them top out as more than roleplayers.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/6/2016 4:33:35 PM   
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/6/2016 4:37:56 PM   
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Take Brice Johnson at #5.


I'm like the leader of the Brice Johnson bandwagon and I think that's way too high for a guy who was absolutely manhandled by guys 6" shorter than he was...

I think its very possible he goes in the 2nd round.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/7/2016 9:42:44 AM   
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1. Dunn Prov PG
2. Poeltl Utah C
3. Bender Croatia PF
4. Baldwin Vandy PG
5. Brown Cal SF

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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/12/2016 3:44:24 PM   
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Question: are we sure this isnt a 3 person draft? more specifically, are we sure ingram deserves to be above bender?

i dont know why, but until today i hadnt watched one second of bender play. ive been checking out the scant pro footage of bender today, and the way he moves for a 7’1’’ guy is pretty amazing. hes not a leaper, but if your reach is 9’3’’, a 30 inch vert pretty much gets you everywhere you need to go. and its not like he doesnt have skills either. also the age.

his stats look really bad this year. youd expect bad, cause hes a kid playing against men, but this looks kind of worse. but if he played ncaa, wouldnt he have almost certainly looked like a stud? and if that had happened, this would be a 3 person draft no question, right?

i dont know. i think bender has skills, and he might be a more impressive athlete than ingram. plus hes younger. plus i think hes more likely to be versatile. im not convinced ingram will have the defense and boarding chops to play the 4 outside of gimmicky lineups. and hes not athletic enough to guard 2s from what ive seen. hes kind of slow, actually.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/12/2016 3:51:49 PM   
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Kris Dunn confirms that he has met with the Wolves. Very excited about the young core the team has.

Kyle Ratke ✔ ‎@Kyle_Ratke
Jaylen Brown confirms he's met with Wolves. Brown on his meeting: "Me and Tom Thibodeau are on the same page."
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/12/2016 10:34:29 PM   
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/13/2016 7:49:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jaylen Brown has to fill out and needs some developing but he could end up being a very solid NBA player.

Dunn might be the safest pick

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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/13/2016 11:07:07 AM   
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Jaylen Brown has to fill out and needs some developing but he could end up being a very solid NBA player.

Dunn might be the safest pick


I don't like Brown. He's so unskilled. To be intriguing, he had to be big enough to play small-ball PF, but he measured out more SG/SF size. But he has no wing skills at all.

I'm ambivalent towards Dunn. He should be much better at his age than he is. Very suspect shot (that FT% is a HUGE red flag), turnover prone and he has a loose handle. I think he'll be able to guard both backcourt positions, so that's a big plus - but I'm not sure that's "top half of the lottery" talent.

This draft sucks...I would take all 4 of the guys who went 10-14 last year over anyone in this draft outside of the Top 2 or 3.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/13/2016 12:44:22 PM   
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/13/2016 1:07:31 PM   
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What kind of bounty would it take to pry Butler away from the bulls?


A different front office in Chicago to start.

I would guess GarPax's unwillingness to make a deal with Thibs will rival McHale and the Lakers.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/14/2016 2:16:29 PM   
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Skeptics will have to keep the "undersized 2-guard" argument in their pocket. Hield measured 6'5" in shoes—a fine height for the position. Meanwhile, his 6'9½" wingspan and 212.4-pound frame are strong.

These numbers ultimately mirror Bradley Beal's (6'4¾" size, 6'8" wingspan, 202 pounds) from the 2012 combine.

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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/14/2016 4:36:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps the most difficult player to accurately rank right now is Cal's Jaylen Brown. Brown told reporters in Chicago that his range was "1 through 10." That's right, he thinks he's in the mix for the No. 1 pick. I spoke with a couple of teams who believe he's a top-five pick, which isn't far off Brown's assessment. However, a number of others have him in the teens to early 20s.

Several teams that had him in for interviews this week were not impressed with how he handled himself. "He was the worst interview we had this week," one NBA GM said. "By far, the worst interview. I know he hasn't hired an agent yet, but he was arrogant and didn't show a real feel for the game when we asked him basketball questions. He hurt himself more than anyone here."

Other teams are more concerned about game film of Brown. "He's a 6-foot-7 power forward who thinks he's a wing," one GM said. "His feel and ability to create for himself just aren't there. I love the body and athleticism and I agree he wasn't in an ideal situation at Cal, but I'd have a hard time taking him ahead of the top-10 guys on our board."
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/14/2016 4:39:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Size has never been the issue with Buddy for me. More that I'm leery of guys who make huge jumps as seniors - and even more that he doesn't really do anything beyond shoot at an NBA level.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/14/2016 6:42:56 PM   
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Size has never been the issue with Buddy for me. More that I'm leery of guys who make huge jumps as seniors - and even more that he doesn't really do anything beyond shoot at an NBA level.

I'm OK with him. If you can shoot like he can you will help an NBA team. I'm thinking he goes 6-9.
Not sure he's a Thibs guy though.

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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/14/2016 7:01:15 PM   
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/14/2016 7:06:05 PM   
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/14/2016 7:07:49 PM   
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/15/2016 10:09:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jaylen Brown certainly would be a pick based purely on potential. Very raw offensively.

He is the type of player that needs to stay in school and work on his game. Just a shame these kids are allowed to enter the draft so young.

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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/15/2016 1:54:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Using Ford's lottery simulator, it looks like he thinks our order is:

Simmons
Ingram
Bender
Murray
Hield
Ellensen

Not horrible, but I'd still look to trade down if we don't move up into Top 3.

And DX has Ellensen dropping quite a bit, so hopefully we'll sour on him too.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/15/2016 3:08:13 PM   
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Using Ford's lottery simulator, it looks like he thinks our order is:

Simmons
Ingram
Bender
Murray
Hield
Ellensen

Not horrible, but I'd still look to trade down if we don't move up into Top 3.

And DX has Ellensen dropping quite a bit, so hopefully we'll sour on him too.

No Brown on the list and I agree. Dunn not there either, but wouldn't be shocked if we pick him.

< Message edited by Steve Lentz -- 5/15/2016 5:31:40 PM >

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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/16/2016 11:46:43 AM   
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Take Brice Johnson at #5.


I'm like the leader of the Brice Johnson bandwagon and I think that's way too high for a guy who was absolutely manhandled by guys 6" shorter than he was...

I think its very possible he goes in the 2nd round.


Brice weighed in at only 209 pounds.

At age 22 that's a red flag.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/16/2016 3:00:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Using Ford's lottery simulator, it looks like he thinks our order is:

Simmons
Ingram
Bender
Murray
Hield
Ellensen

Not horrible, but I'd still look to trade down if we don't move up into Top 3.

And DX has Ellensen dropping quite a bit, so hopefully we'll sour on him too.

That's a change. He had us all over Ellenson at 5 when I did it a couple weeks ago.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/16/2016 3:03:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		We actually have almost a 30% chance of picking in the top three. That's not bad. A top five pick over 50% and a top six pick just over 90%.
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