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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/16/2016 7:22:45 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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I'm just not concerned about the draft. Knowing that Thib has major input makes me calm.

I'd still feel better if David Levine was in charge, but I've got to hit the lottery to make that dream come true.


This is the least excited about a draft class as I can remember.

There are a handful of guys I like a lot, but I'm not sure any of them top out as more than roleplayers.


Same. If Lakers keep their pick this year, they lose next years. While I hope they don't finish so bad next year, perhaps having even a lower pick next year is better.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/16/2016 8:02:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lottery is tomorrow, isn't it? Such a big spread for where the Wolves will select. Maybe they will select sixth. That's my guess.

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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 6:10:22 PM   
David Levine


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Status: online 		Ford's predictions on what each team would do if they get the #3 pick:

Sixers: Dunn
Lakers: Trade
Celtics: Murray
Suns: Bender
Wolves: Bender
Pelicans: Bender
Nuggets: Bender
Kings: Hield
Raptors: Bender
Bucks: Murray
Magic: Bender
Jazz: Dunn
Wizards: Bender
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 6:38:11 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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Status: offline 		Admittedly, I am pining for the lottery (which is likely finished and the GMs/media sequestered) as a 'reward' for all that losing and more out of habit of draft intrigue than anything.

Am fine with one of the top two picks to take Simmons or Ingram, but that's about it.

If they keep the pick, they have to fork over next years pick (although it is top 5 protected). In 2018 they owe Orlando a first for Howard. So obviously free agency is going to have to be the way to go to build with the young draftees already on the team.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 6:44:59 PM   
TJSweens


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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Ford's predictions on what each team would do if they get the #3 pick:

Sixers: Dunn
Lakers: Trade
Celtics: Murray
Suns: Bender
Wolves: Bender
Pelicans: Bender
Nuggets: Bender
Kings: Hield
Raptors: Bender
Bucks: Murray
Magic: Bender
Jazz: Dunn
Wizards: Bender


Well, we now know who each team WON'T be picking at #3.

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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 6:50:30 PM   
David Levine


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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Ford's predictions on what each team would do if they get the #3 pick:

Sixers: Dunn
Lakers: Trade
Celtics: Murray
Suns: Bender
Wolves: Bender
Pelicans: Bender
Nuggets: Bender
Kings: Hield
Raptors: Bender
Bucks: Murray
Magic: Bender
Jazz: Dunn
Wizards: Bender


Well, we now know who each team WON'T be picking at #3.


He's probably pretty close on this - he does have good sources.

I don't trust any mocks that go much beyond this though. I doubt anyone (including most teams) knows what they're doing with this class.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 6:53:11 PM   
David Levine


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Admittedly, I am pining for the lottery (which is likely finished and the GMs/media sequestered) as a 'reward' for all that losing and more out of habit of draft intrigue than anything.

Am fine with one of the top two picks to take Simmons or Ingram, but that's about it.

If they keep the pick, they have to fork over next years pick (although it is top 5 protected). In 2018 they owe Orlando a first for Howard. So obviously free agency is going to have to be the way to go to build with the young draftees already on the team.


Top 3 protected next year as well. Although if you somehow manage to draft Top 3 this year AND next year, you no longer owe a 1st to Orlando:

2016 first round draft pick to Philadelphia
L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick to Philadelphia (via Phoenix) protected for selections 1-3 in 2016 and 1-3 in 2017 and unprotected in 2018

2018 first round draft pick to Orlando
If at least two years after the L.A. Lakers conveyed a 1st round pick to Philadelphia, then the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick to Orlando protected for selections 1-5 in 2018 and unprotected in 2019; if the L.A. Lakers have not conveyed a 1st round pick to Philadelphia by 2017, then the L.A. Lakers will instead convey their 2017 2nd round pick and 2018 2nd round pick to Orlando
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:11:46 PM   
Bill Jandro

 

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Ford's predictions on what each team would do if they get the #3 pick:

Sixers: Dunn
Lakers: Trade
Celtics: Murray
Suns: Bender
Wolves: Bender
Pelicans: Bender
Nuggets: Bender
Kings: Hield
Raptors: Bender
Bucks: Murray
Magic: Bender
Jazz: Dunn
Wizards: Bender


Toronto has a lottery pick?

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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:18:08 PM   
David Levine


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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Ford's predictions on what each team would do if they get the #3 pick:

Sixers: Dunn
Lakers: Trade
Celtics: Murray
Suns: Bender
Wolves: Bender
Pelicans: Bender
Nuggets: Bender
Kings: Hield
Raptors: Bender
Bucks: Murray
Magic: Bender
Jazz: Dunn
Wizards: Bender


Toronto has a lottery pick?


They get the less favorable of NY or Denver's pick. With Denver keeping the better pick.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:22:35 PM   
David Levine


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Status: online 		So we stay at 5.

LA keeps their pick.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:24:44 PM   
shakeywalton

 

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So we stay at 5.

LA keeps their pick.


That works for me. We'll get a good player. Just glad we didn't fall.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:26:14 PM   
David Levine


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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:26:55 PM   
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Mutombo was right!


Yes he was.... just adds more to the conspiracy.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:27:43 PM   
David Levine


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Status: online 		Has the draft ever gone in order before?

Somewhere Sam Hinkie is crying into his Pinot.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:28:26 PM   
shakeywalton

 

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Status: offline 		I could see it happening in the 80's.... the fix.... but it's very dangerous for the league to do it today.

I'm not saying anything but I doubt the league is very pleased with Mutumbo's tweet.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:29:14 PM   
shakeywalton

 

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Has the draft ever gone in order before?

Somewhere Sam Hinkie is crying into his Pinot.


Ya that was odd. I don't recall that before.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:32:19 PM   
David Levine


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Status: online 		I'm assuming this math is correct.

1.9% chance it happens: (250/1000) * (199/750) * (156/551)=.0188
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:33:01 PM   
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Has the draft ever gone in order before?

Somewhere Sam Hinkie is crying into his Pinot.


Ya that was odd. I don't recall that before.

Wonder what the Mathematical chance of the draft going completely in original order was.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:33:03 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:33:11 PM   
shakeywalton

 

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Status: offline 		IMO, Philly takes Ingram #1; they don't need anymore bigs who can't shoot.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:38:11 PM   
David Levine


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IMO, Philly takes Ingram #1; they don't need anymore bigs who can't shoot.


Ingram actually makes a lot more sense in Philly. Unless they plan on moving Okafor or Noel.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:39:28 PM   
shakeywalton

 

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Status: offline 		Based on the results.... none of the top 4 teams is looking for backcourt help.

1. Sixers - No need to comment
2. Lakers - selected Russel last year and has Clarkson
3. Celtics - They have more than enough PG/SG
4. Suns - No need to comment
5. Wolves - It's an almost guarantee that Bender will go in the top 4 and one of Murray, Hield, or Dunn will be available.

IMO this is good. ya, we need an elite starting PF but we weren't going to find it in this draft anyway. What we need is a backcourt player who can swing between SG-PG or just shoot the ball.

If Murray is there you take him!!!!!
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:40:04 PM   
David Levine


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Status: online 		My gut says we trade the pick.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:42:37 PM   
shakeywalton

 

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Status: offline 		Ideally for us, we aren't going to find that elite PF to play next to Townes in this draft. We could select someone Thibs likes, trade down or what I would do is take the best PLAYER available at #5.

We have NOBODY at backup SG. Our bench was horrible last season and cost us numerous games. Our biggest need IMO is at SG.
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RE: 2016 NBA Draft - 5/17/2016 7:43:08 PM   
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My gut says we trade the pick.


I could easily see it. Hope we get value.
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