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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 8:29:21 PM

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2000/1000/100 for KAT!!!

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 8:29:27 PM

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Need a loss tomorrow.

A loss guarantees us the 7th lottery slot. A win could potentially bump us to 8th or 9th.

A loss combined with a Knicks win would give us a coin toss for 6th.

I understand that thinking, but I hate that thinking. I'm hoping we win.

A win tonight does NOTHING. I want a crack at the best player we can get this draft as we likely have no pick in 2018 and salary cap strapped.

We need this pick to be a player and then to use our cap space this off-season wisely.

Despite all your CAPS you couldn't be more wrong. A win tonight is a win and I as a fan like to see my team win. Winning breeds winning losing breeds losing. Tanking for better draft picks is for LOSERS.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 8:40:38 PM

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Timberwolves PR @Twolves_PR 11m11 minutes ago
With that rebound, KAT becomes the youngest player (15th overall & 1st since Duncan in 01-02) to tally 2k+ points & 1k+ rebounds in a season

Timberwolves @Twolves_PR 8m8 minutes ago
Towns also is now the first player in NBA history to tally 2,000+ points, 1,000+ rebounds, and 100 made three-pointers in a single season.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 8:48:57 PM

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Ricky comes into tonight shooting 40.2%.

He gets a 100K bonus if he finishes the year above 40%.

I think Thibs sat him to guarantee the bonus.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 8:51:38 PM

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Game is getting a little too close...

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 9:12:40 PM

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Ricky comes into tonight shooting 40.2%.

He gets a 100K bonus if he finishes the year above 40%.

I think Thibs sat him to guarantee the bonus.

I like it.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 9:25:00 PM

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Knicks win, so we're now in a coin flip for 6/7, and Dallas and Sacramento can't catch us.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 9:27:49 PM

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Knicks win, so we're now in a coin flip for 6/7, and Dallas and Sacramento can't catch us.

Saw that. Now let's win the flip.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 9:52:21 PM

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Did we prefer the Knicks lost?

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 10:03:42 PM

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Nevermind, I figured it out

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 10:18:59 PM

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Knicks win, so we're now in a coin flip for 6/7, and Dallas and Sacramento can't catch us.

KG, that's why a Wolves win tonight would have been disastrous!!

Try to see the big picture KG.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 10:34:38 PM

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Ricky comes into tonight shooting 40.2%.

He gets a 100K bonus if he finishes the year above 40%.

I think Thibs sat him to guarantee the bonus.

I like it.

This goes a long way with all the players.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 10:40:59 PM

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si.com grades

Minnesota Timberwolves: C–

Record: 31-50 | Midseason Grade: C | Off. Rating: 10 | Def. Rating: 27 | Net: 20

There are some who will rush to label the Timberwolves as one of the league’s biggest disappointments given that they fell way short of preseason Las Vegas projections that pegged them to be a winning team. That’s too harsh. The Timberwolves were a young squad with a new coach and zero track record of playing quality defense. As such, their season wasn’t all that surprising, although the loss of Zach LaVine to a season-ending knee injury qualifies as a body blow.

All signs point to Minnesota making the leap, a la the 2016 Pistons or the 2017 Bucks, next season. Karl-Anthony Towns has become an undeniable force, Ricky Rubio has played perhaps the best ball of his career in recent months and Andrew Wiggins has gradually improved his scoring efficiency. Plus, coach/executive Tom Thibodeau enters the summer with a better understanding of his personnel and the requisite spending power to address his roster’s weaknesses. Sometimes the hype arrives one year too early for young teams. Bank on Minnesota doing bigger things in 2018.

Pretty fair assessment.

The two things that give me hope for the future are Towns and whatever happened to Rubio to turn him into a scoring threat.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/12/2017 11:23:57 PM 1 votes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: shakeywalton

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Need a loss tomorrow.

A loss guarantees us the 7th lottery slot. A win could potentially bump us to 8th or 9th.

A loss combined with a Knicks win would give us a coin toss for 6th.

I understand that thinking, but I hate that thinking. I'm hoping we win.

A win tonight does NOTHING. I want a crack at the best player we can get this draft as we likely have no pick in 2018 and salary cap strapped.

We need this pick to be a player and then to use our cap space this off-season wisely.

Despite all your CAPS you couldn't be more wrong. A win tonight is a win and I as a fan like to see my team win. Winning breeds winning losing breeds losing. Tanking for better draft picks is for LOSERS.

Ummm "All my Caps"...?????

I noted ONE SINGLE word in CAPS. KG.... you losing it again?

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 10:31:13 AM

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Just like every other coach that wanted to trade Rubio until they spent coaching him, it appears Thibs may have seen the light:

Timberwolves PR ✔ @Twolves_PR
Thibodeau on Rubio: "Until you coach him, you don't really know him." Says he improves because of his work ethic.
7:23 AM - 14 Apr 2017 · Minneapolis, MN

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 10:50:07 AM

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Presser video here (it starts around the 7:40 mark):

https://www.facebook.com/MNTimberwolves/videos/10154766355814261/

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 10:56:22 AM

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Just like every other coach that wanted to trade Rubio until they spent coaching him, it appears Thibs may have seen the light:

Timberwolves PR ✔ @Twolves_PR
Thibodeau on Rubio: "Until you coach him, you don't really know him." Says he improves because of his work ethic.
7:23 AM - 14 Apr 2017 · Minneapolis, MN

Amen
Finally solving our ball control and distribution problem.
Don't mess that up, please

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 11:13:38 AM

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Just like every other coach that wanted to trade Rubio until they spent coaching him, it appears Thibs may have seen the light:
Timberwolves PR ✔ @Twolves_PR
Thibodeau on Rubio: "Until you coach him, you don't really know him." Says he improves because of his work ethic.
7:23 AM - 14 Apr 2017 · Minneapolis, MN

Amen
Finally solving our ball control and distribution problem.
Don't mess that up, please

You would think trading Ricky away wouldn't fix the depth issue either....

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 11:46:52 AM

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Just like every other coach that wanted to trade Rubio until they spent coaching him, it appears Thibs may have seen the light:
Timberwolves PR ✔ @Twolves_PR
Thibodeau on Rubio: "Until you coach him, you don't really know him." Says he improves because of his work ethic.
7:23 AM - 14 Apr 2017 · Minneapolis, MN

Amen
Finally solving our ball control and distribution problem.
Don't mess that up, please

You would think trading Ricky away wouldn't fix the depth issue either....

Esp when you factor in Dunn's limited ability in the half court offense.

Ricky is a wizard with the BB and now that his shooting has improved one can easily bump him up into the conversation as one of the better PG's in the league.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 2:47:18 PM

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Like I would be absolutely thrilled if Dunn could turn into Patrick Beverley.

Defensive bulldog, bit of a dick, not really a PG, but can be a functional secondary ballhandler and a limited offensive player, but a killer from 3.

I think a lot of it has to do with his confidence.

I also think once he has that confidence, he just might be great taking the ball to the basket.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 2:51:53 PM

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Like I would be absolutely thrilled if Dunn could turn into Patrick Beverley.

Defensive bulldog, bit of a dick, not really a PG, but can be a functional secondary ballhandler and a limited offensive player, but a killer from 3.

I think a lot of it has to do with his confidence.

I also think once he has that confidence, he just might be great taking the ball to the basket.

I hope so. Because right now he struggles mightily to get all the way to the rim, and is a poor finisher when he gets there.

He's got the size and strength to do it, just not the handle or touch.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 3:07:06 PM

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Like I would be absolutely thrilled if Dunn could turn into Patrick Beverley.

Defensive bulldog, bit of a dick, not really a PG, but can be a functional secondary ballhandler and a limited offensive player, but a killer from 3.

I think a lot of it has to do with his confidence.

I also think once he has that confidence, he just might be great taking the ball to the basket.

I hope so. Because right now he struggles mightily to get all the way to the rim, and is a poor finisher when he gets there.

He's got the size and strength to do it, just not the handle or touch.

I sometimes see a kid who's used to dominating and has the skill to do it at times but lacks the confidence. He has the handles to do it, he just needs to clean it up a bit.

Remember, it's his rookie year and he wasn't given a real long leash to mess up. Let's give it a little time.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 3:12:55 PM

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Like I would be absolutely thrilled if Dunn could turn into Patrick Beverley.

Defensive bulldog, bit of a dick, not really a PG, but can be a functional secondary ballhandler and a limited offensive player, but a killer from 3.

I think a lot of it has to do with his confidence.

I also think once he has that confidence, he just might be great taking the ball to the basket.

I hope so. Because right now he struggles mightily to get all the way to the rim, and is a poor finisher when he gets there.

He's got the size and strength to do it, just not the handle or touch.

I sometimes see a kid who's used to dominating and has the skill to do it at times but lacks the confidence. He has the handles to do it, he just needs to clean it up a bit.

Remember, it's his rookie year and he wasn't given a real long leash to mess up. Let's give it a little time.

I get that, but you also have to take into account his lengthy college career that featured many of the same red flags.

I'd also be much more forgiving if he was a 19 or 20 year old kid that was a 1-and-done. But he's already 23 - which makes it less likely that he's going to pick up things he should've learned as a teenager.

And his handle needs a ton of work. Its a mess. Too high, too far from his body and he loses control of the ball far too easily. For example, the kid has an absolutely wicked crossover. He can drop a guy on his ass with it. BUT, so far the only thing he's been able to get with it is turning a guarded 15 footer into a less guarded 17 footer.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 3:44:21 PM

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Like I would be absolutely thrilled if Dunn could turn into Patrick Beverley.

Defensive bulldog, bit of a dick, not really a PG, but can be a functional secondary ballhandler and a limited offensive player, but a killer from 3.

I think a lot of it has to do with his confidence.

I also think once he has that confidence, he just might be great taking the ball to the basket.

I hope so. Because right now he struggles mightily to get all the way to the rim, and is a poor finisher when he gets there.

He's got the size and strength to do it, just not the handle or touch.

I sometimes see a kid who's used to dominating and has the skill to do it at times but lacks the confidence. He has the handles to do it, he just needs to clean it up a bit.

Remember, it's his rookie year and he wasn't given a real long leash to mess up. Let's give it a little time.

I get that, but you also have to take into account his lengthy college career that featured many of the same red flags.

I'd also be much more forgiving if he was a 19 or 20 year old kid that was a 1-and-done. But he's already 23 - which makes it less likely that he's going to pick up things he should've learned as a teenager.

And his handle needs a ton of work. Its a mess. Too high, too far from his body and he loses control of the ball far too easily. For example, the kid has an absolutely wicked crossover. He can drop a guy on his ass with it. BUT, so far the only thing he's been able to get with it is turning a guarded 15 footer into a less guarded 17 footer.

His wicked crossover shows me he has the ability to clean up his handles if he puts in the work.

His age isn't a concern of mine at all. To me he's still a rookie who didn't get a lot of playing time.

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RE: Wolves 2016 Game Day - 4/14/2017 3:51:21 PM

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His wicked crossover shows me he has the ability to clean up his handles if he puts in the work.

Flash over substance. Not a good sign. If you can't do the basics, fancier moves do you no good. All it shows me is that he spent WAY too much time working on his crossover.

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His age isn't a concern of mine at all. To me he's still a rookie who didn't get a lot of playing time.

He still played 3000 minutes in college and over 1300 this year.

I'm not saying he's a finished product but there is no reason to assume he's going to buck the trend of old rookies developing much less than young ones. Especially at PG where its much harder to get by on god-given talent than any other position.

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