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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 4/21/2017 11:54:08 AM   
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Yahoo with a better breakdown - including some cap holds I missed.

26M if we let Pek go. 34M if we renounce Bazz's caphold.

Would not be shocked if we try to dump Cole.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/summer-agenda-timberwolves-76ers-plenty-flexibility-summer-193525322.html

What happened with Cole, anyway? Thibs didn't like him?


Not sure if he's just a bad fit or what. He just never seemed to play well.
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 4/21/2017 11:56:15 AM   
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Definitely a head scratcher. I pegged Cole as a guy who would plug right into Thib's system and provide quality depth.

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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 4/21/2017 12:27:19 PM   
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Definitely a head scratcher. I pegged Cole as a guy who would plug right into Thib's system and provide quality depth.

Not only that, but also provide a measure of toughness.

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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/8/2017 11:57:45 AM   
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Skipping the Draft Combine: Jayson Tatum, Josh Jackson, Lonzo Ball, Jonathan Isaac, Dennis Smith, Malik Monk and Lauri Markkanen.

Fultz is showing up but may just do team interviews.
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/8/2017 11:59:36 AM   
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I still think Isaac is the best possible fit for this team. If we get #1, I think we have to take Fultz.

Moving to 2 or 3 gets sticky. I don't like Ball, and really don't like him for us. I could be talked into Jackson, but I'd honestly rather have Isaac - and I could see him being the better player in 2-3 years.
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/8/2017 6:44:13 PM   
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I still think Isaac is the best possible fit for this team. If we get #1, I think we have to take Fultz.

Moving to 2 or 3 gets sticky. I don't like Ball, and really don't like him for us. I could be talked into Jackson, but I'd honestly rather have Isaac - and I could see him being the better player in 2-3 years.

I have already decided we are getting pick one or two so it's Fultz or Jackson for me. I'm not even considering the possibility of anybody else. On the other hand if we could get a kings ransom in a trade down than I would consider that.

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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/8/2017 8:05:14 PM   
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I hope the Wolves get a shot at that kid out of Louisville.

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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/8/2017 8:25:49 PM   
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I hope the Wolves get a shot at that kid out of Louisville.


Donovan Mitchell?

As of now we don't have a 2nd round pick...
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/9/2017 9:31:12 AM   
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The new Ball shoe first day sales results worldwide- $150,000

Probably not surpassing Air Jordan's anytime soon....
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/9/2017 2:18:33 PM   
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Per ESPN’s Chad Ford, the Lakers are reportedly “enamored” with Ball and would consider taking him No. 1 overall. If he fell to them at No. 3, they’d almost certainly scoop him up as soon as they were on the clock.

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6. Minnesota Timberwolves: Jonathan Isaac, Florida State F (6-10, Fr.)
Minnesota might tab Monk to beef up its shooting arsenal, but after watching Isaac’s two-way athleticism, range and interchangeability in pre-draft workouts, Tom Thibodeau will be swayed to take the Seminole.

Given Isaac’s bounciness and fluidity at his size, he has a great chance to thrive in every frontcourt position and role. Jonathan Tjarks of The Ringer aptly described the big fella’s draft value.

If Isaac is a small forward who can play power forward in certain matchups, he’s fairly valued by most draft sites near the bottom of the top 10. If he’s a power forward who can play some center, he could become the steal of the draft.

In a few years, we might be referring to Isaac and Karl-Anthony Towns as one of the best frontcourts in the league.

https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/2017-nba-mock-draft-pre-combine-edition/6/
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/9/2017 2:28:42 PM   
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The new Ball shoe first day sales results worldwide- $150,000

Probably not surpassing Air Jordan's anytime soon....

Not much fun to say, "I got a new pair of Balls; old ones were worn out."
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/9/2017 3:02:56 PM   
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I'm surprised, the set up post was sitting there for 5 hours before someone finally went for the joke.

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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/9/2017 3:11:12 PM   
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This year's guy that I want to acquire a 2nd round pick to get: Sindarious Thornwell.

He's a senior, so he's "old", but he'd be a nice fit. Strong with good length, able to really guard multiple positions. Hit 39% of his 3s on 5 attempts/game and 83% of his FTs on over 8/game. 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 block.

Should be able to play the 2 and 3. May have the strength and length to play some smallball 4. He's around Jae Crowder's size, but with a little less mass.
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/10/2017 4:46:48 PM   
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I know many people have speculated on trading this pick, but unless it's a No-Brainer, I do NOT want the pick traded. Might be a long time before we can add a young talent under team control for up to 8 years again.

We have plenty of cap space to fill our needs. Keep this pick and take the BPA!
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/12/2017 10:51:08 AM   
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I know many people have speculated on trading this pick, but unless it's a No-Brainer, I do NOT want the pick traded. Might be a long time before we can add a young talent under team control for up to 8 years again.

We have plenty of cap space to fill our needs. Keep this pick and take the BPA!

I'd trade the pick for Kawhi Leonard.

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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/12/2017 11:36:08 AM   
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It seems like the majority of teams still have Washington's Markelle Fultz ranked ahead of UCLA's Lonzo Ball for the No. 1 pick. There also seems to be a growing movement among teams to rank Kentucky's De'Aaron Fox ahead of Ball. No one helped himself more in March than Fox did. He has a chance to go as high as No. 2 or No. 3 in this draft.

There also seems to be some growing appreciation for North Carolina State's Dennis Smith. It's possible that Fultz, Ball, Fox and Smith could be the first four players taken in the draft. That's how strong the point guard group is this year.

Teams are waiting with a lot of anticipation for Harry Giles' medical reports to come back. I talked to a number of NBA executives who said if he's totally cleared by their medical staff, he could move in the Nos. 5-10 range of the draft.

"He's the best prospect in the entire draft if he can fully recover and stay healthy," one NBA executive said. "He's just a freaky talent."

Those are big ifs, but talk of him sliding out of the lottery don't seem very realistic unless he gets red flagged during the Saturday medicals.


Promising for Isaac to be there for us.
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/12/2017 6:44:44 PM   
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I am of course hoping the Wolves move up or at least stay the course at #6 in Tuesday's Lottery but a close second for me is hoping the Lakers drop out of the top 3.
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/12/2017 6:49:51 PM   
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I am of course hoping the Wolves move up or at least stay the course at #6 in Tuesday's Lottery but a close second for me is hoping the Lakers drop out of the top 3.


Brutal for the Lakers if they drop out, as it would also trigger their 2019 1st round pick going to Orlando.

If they keep this year's pick they only lose this year and next year's 2nd rounders to Orlando.
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/12/2017 6:53:00 PM   
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I am of course hoping the Wolves move up or at least stay the course at #6 in Tuesday's Lottery but a close second for me is hoping the Lakers drop out of the top 3.


Brutal for the Lakers if they drop out, as it would also trigger their 2019 1st round pick going to Orlando.

If they keep this year's pick they only lose this year and next year's 2nd rounders to Orlando.


I know. That's why I'm hoping they lose this years top 3 pick.
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/13/2017 9:35:32 AM   
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I am of course hoping the Wolves move up or at least stay the course at #6 in Tuesday's Lottery but a close second for me is hoping the Lakers drop out of the top 3.


Brutal for the Lakers if they drop out, as it would also trigger their 2019 1st round pick going to Orlando.

If they keep this year's pick they only lose this year and next year's 2nd rounders to Orlando.


I know. That's why I'm hoping they lose this years top 3 pick.

I would have no issue at all with the Lakers losing their first round pick this year. If it is because of the Wolves moving ahead of them that would double my pleasure.

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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/13/2017 2:31:52 PM   
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Could this finally be the year when the wolves actually improve their position in the lottery?

I still find it disturbing that we have never improved our position in the life of the lottery.

I think one article a while back said it was almost mathmatically impossible that we haven't.

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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/13/2017 7:21:25 PM   
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Each draft is independent of the prior draft. It is like arguing that because a 33 percent shooter miss 10 shots in a row, the game is fixed. Because he should have made 3 of them
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/13/2017 9:56:29 PM   
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Each draft is independent of the prior draft. It is like arguing that because a 33 percent shooter miss 10 shots in a row, the game is fixed. Because he should have made 3 of them

Ruff while what you say is true I think you are still missing the point. I will be happy to bet you right now that if a penny is flipped ten times the outcome will not be all heads or all tails. Each flip is independent of the last. I don't know what the mathematics are of the Wolves never moving up in their history, but those odds are huge. They of course will not affect the next lottery, but as a whole it is ridiculous.

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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/14/2017 3:51:50 PM   
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Just because you have bad luck doesn't mean that the lottery is fixed. Just means that you have bad luck. If you ran a more sophisticated like doing a correlation between a random table and the Wolves lottery luck, you might have some thing to consider. If your statistics are no more sophisticated then a middle schooler, you don't impress me with your arguments.
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RE: 2017 NBA Draft - 5/14/2017 10:35:37 PM   
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Just because you have bad luck doesn't mean that the lottery is fixed. Just means that you have bad luck. If you ran a more sophisticated like doing a correlation between a random table and the Wolves lottery luck, you might have some thing to consider. If your statistics are no more sophisticated then a middle schooler, you don't impress me with your arguments.

Did I make any argument about anything being fixed???????????
If I did please show me.
My argument is that the Wolves have had bad luck no more no less.

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