From: Portland, Oregon
ORIGINAL: David Levine
ORIGINAL: David Levine
I agree with you that the Wolves have had very bad luck in the draft. This along with incompetence in the front office. It changed with Flip. Not enough evidence to judge Thibs.
Amazing how getting the #1 overall pick in a year with a "generational" player can color ones opinion...
I believe that Flip did a good job on handling Love and parlaying him for the players that he did. Drafting LaVine was a good move two. There has been other decent moves too. We had a generational player in KG, but could not put a team around him. That is on McHale. Flip had some real limitations as a coach too, but did a good job as a GM.
The Wiggins and LaVine moves still look just OK after 3 years. If we didn't
have KAT, our future would look awfully bleak right now.
The "players" we got for Love? Besides Wiggins, we got possibly the biggest #1 overall bust in NBA history and a future 1st round pick that he turned into half a season of a "didn't want to be here" Thad Young and then 5 games of Kevin Garnett.
The Bazz draft was an absolute clinic on what not to do. He had 8 players scouted while holding the 9th pick, so when the draft went exactly as everyone else planned, he went into scramble #1. Then when he moved down, everyone knew who he was targeting, so Boston was able to snipe that layer causing scramble #3 involving him drafting a guy that had been reported as being off our board and actually apologizing to the fans afterwards.
Not to mention selling a 1st round pick on a talent-starved team (a pick that was right before Utah took Gobert - a player that Flip later said he thought was a lottery talent...).
Dieng was a decent pick. Tyus was a decent pick (that we paid too much for).
The Payne trade is and was at the time inexcusable from any standpoint.
Flip wasn't a nightmare or anything, but he was still a below average GM whose best move was not screwing up the KAT pick.
And wasn't he within an eyelash of doing that? (drafting Okafor)
I'd call Flip a disaster. What he did in the 2013 draft can't be defended.
What he was rumored to almost have done doesn't mean shit. What he did is all that matters.
I have to agree with you.
He nearly made a disater pick.
After many mediocre picks.
We'd be worse today with him, kind of cold but very true.
The Curse of Mauer is gone!