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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Honestly, Thibs is more the focus of my ire over this. He had a master distributor with a massive BBIQ and one of the best defensive points in the league in the middle of 3 scorers. Thibs unloaded him for a draft pick and signed a shoot first PG with a low BBIQ and a terrible defender, eating up considerably more cap space in the process. faTeague is just the symptom. Thibs is the disease.

The single most obvious blown move on so many levels. And for most this is not MMQBing, so to speak. Once we got Butler, there was absolutely no reason to make that move, there aren't enough backetballs, AND Rubio would control the ball enough that Butler wouldn't have to be expending as much energy controlling the ball for entire possessions.

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Honestly, Thibs is more the focus of my ire over this. He had a master distributor with a massive BBIQ and one of the best defensive points in the league in the middle of 3 scorers. Thibs unloaded him for a draft pick and signed a shoot first PG with a low BBIQ and a terrible defender, eating up considerably more cap space in the process. faTeague is just the symptom. Thibs is the disease.

The single most obvious blown move on so many levels. And for most this is not MMQBing, so to speak. Once we got Butler, there was absolutely no reason to make that move, there aren't enough backetballs, AND Rubio would control the ball enough that Butler wouldn't have to be expending as much energy controlling the ball for entire possessions.

Butler refused to play with Rubio. It was a condition of Butler accepting the trade.

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Honestly, Thibs is more the focus of my ire over this. He had a master distributor with a massive BBIQ and one of the best defensive points in the league in the middle of 3 scorers. Thibs unloaded him for a draft pick and signed a shoot first PG with a low BBIQ and a terrible defender, eating up considerably more cap space in the process. faTeague is just the symptom. Thibs is the disease.

The single most obvious blown move on so many levels. And for most this is not MMQBing, so to speak. Once we got Butler, there was absolutely no reason to make that move, there aren't enough backetballs, AND Rubio would control the ball enough that Butler wouldn't have to be expending as much energy controlling the ball for entire possessions.

Butler refused to play with Rubio. It was a condition of Butler accepting the trade.

What's the source for that? It sounds like fan rumor stuff.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Honestly, Thibs is more the focus of my ire over this. He had a master distributor with a massive BBIQ and one of the best defensive points in the league in the middle of 3 scorers. Thibs unloaded him for a draft pick and signed a shoot first PG with a low BBIQ and a terrible defender, eating up considerably more cap space in the process. faTeague is just the symptom. Thibs is the disease.

The single most obvious blown move on so many levels. And for most this is not MMQBing, so to speak. Once we got Butler, there was absolutely no reason to make that move, there aren't enough backetballs, AND Rubio would control the ball enough that Butler wouldn't have to be expending as much energy controlling the ball for entire possessions.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Honestly, Thibs is more the focus of my ire over this. He had a master distributor with a massive BBIQ and one of the best defensive points in the league in the middle of 3 scorers. Thibs unloaded him for a draft pick and signed a shoot first PG with a low BBIQ and a terrible defender, eating up considerably more cap space in the process. faTeague is just the symptom. Thibs is the disease.

The single most obvious blown move on so many levels. And for most this is not MMQBing, so to speak. Once we got Butler, there was absolutely no reason to make that move, there aren't enough backetballs, AND Rubio would control the ball enough that Butler wouldn't have to be expending as much energy controlling the ball for entire possessions.

Butler refused to play with Rubio. It was a condition of Butler accepting the trade.

What's the source for that? It sounds like fan rumor stuff.

No, it's Matt made it up stuff. I don't think Butler could do anything to nix the trade if he wanted to.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Honestly, Thibs is more the focus of my ire over this. He had a master distributor with a massive BBIQ and one of the best defensive points in the league in the middle of 3 scorers. Thibs unloaded him for a draft pick and signed a shoot first PG with a low BBIQ and a terrible defender, eating up considerably more cap space in the process. faTeague is just the symptom. Thibs is the disease.

The single most obvious blown move on so many levels. And for most this is not MMQBing, so to speak. Once we got Butler, there was absolutely no reason to make that move, there aren't enough backetballs, AND Rubio would control the ball enough that Butler wouldn't have to be expending as much energy controlling the ball for entire possessions.

I still don't get how so many think Teague is worse than Rubio? I haven't seen one thing to prove it yet. They each have their plus and minuses and Teague has played well against CPIII.....Rubio has done the same against Russ.

I want both guards to succeed and I liked Rubio but he has his faults just like Teague just in different areas.

TBH I am FaTeagued about the conversation moreso than the play of either guard.

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens
Honestly, Thibs is more the focus of my ire over this. He had a master distributor with a massive BBIQ and one of the best defensive points in the league in the middle of 3 scorers. Thibs unloaded him for a draft pick and signed a shoot first PG with a low BBIQ and a terrible defender, eating up considerably more cap space in the process. faTeague is just the symptom. Thibs is the disease.

The single most obvious blown move on so many levels. And for most this is not MMQBing, so to speak. Once we got Butler, there was absolutely no reason to make that move, there aren't enough backetballs, AND Rubio would control the ball enough that Butler wouldn't have to be expending as much energy controlling the ball for entire possessions.

I still don't get how so many think Teague is worse than Rubio? I haven't seen one thing to prove it yet. They each have their plus and minuses and Teague has played well against CPIII.....Rubio has done the same against Russ.
I want both guards to succeed and I liked Rubio but he has his faults just like Teague just in different areas.
TBH I am FaTeagued about the conversation moreso than the play of either guard.

I was probably more of a Teague supporter than most here at the beginning. Not that I favored getting rid of Rubio, but I was resigned to change being inevitable in sports.
Teague wore me down though with a looong mid-season stretch of perplexing mediocre play. Beyond mediocre, he was just plain bad at times.
He does seem to have turned it around of late, but I need to see a lot more of that before I can get totally behind him.

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Hopefully the Rockets shooting stays asleep.

The Rockets are leading all teams in the playoffs by taking 19 uncontested threes a game, but they're shooting a playoffs low 26% on them.

https://stats.nba.com/teams/shots-closest-defender-10/?Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B%20Feet%20-%20Wide%20Open&sort=FG3A&dir=1

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Hopefully the Rockets shooting stays asleep.

The Rockets are leading all teams in the playoffs by taking 19 uncontested threes a game, but they're shooting a playoffs low 26% on them.

https://stats.nba.com/teams/shots-closest-defender-10/?Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B%20Feet%20-%20Wide%20Open&sort=FG3A&dir=1

We've been fortunate. That's an incredible number, and is certainly not a recipe for defensive success.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Hopefully the Rockets shooting stays asleep.

The Rockets are leading all teams in the playoffs by taking 19 uncontested threes a game, but they're shooting a playoffs low 26% on them.

https://stats.nba.com/teams/shots-closest-defender-10/?Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B%20Feet%20-%20Wide%20Open&sort=FG3A&dir=1

We've been fortunate. That's an incredible number, and is certainly not a recipe for defensive success.

More!

Game 3, wide-open 3s (defined as no defender within 6 feet of the shooter):
HOU: 5/19
MIN: 10/13

For the series:
HOU: 19/Game, hitting 26%
MIN: 12/game, hitting 56%

Over the regular season, both teams shot them at 39%, but with the Rockets attempting 6.5 more/game.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

If we can get another game if Houston shooting below average from 3 with the Wolves shooting above their average from 3 we will have a shot tonight.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens
Honestly, Thibs is more the focus of my ire over this. He had a master distributor with a massive BBIQ and one of the best defensive points in the league in the middle of 3 scorers. Thibs unloaded him for a draft pick and signed a shoot first PG with a low BBIQ and a terrible defender, eating up considerably more cap space in the process. faTeague is just the symptom. Thibs is the disease.

The single most obvious blown move on so many levels. And for most this is not MMQBing, so to speak. Once we got Butler, there was absolutely no reason to make that move, there aren't enough backetballs, AND Rubio would control the ball enough that Butler wouldn't have to be expending as much energy controlling the ball for entire possessions.

I still don't get how so many think Teague is worse than Rubio? I haven't seen one thing to prove it yet. They each have their plus and minuses and Teague has played well against CPIII.....Rubio has done the same against Russ.
I want both guards to succeed and I liked Rubio but he has his faults just like Teague just in different areas.
TBH I am FaTeagued about the conversation moreso than the play of either guard.

I was probably more of a Teague supporter than most here at the beginning. Not that I favored getting rid of Rubio, but I was resigned to change being inevitable in sports.
Teague wore me down though with a looong mid-season stretch of perplexing mediocre play. Beyond mediocre, he was just plain bad at times.
He does seem to have turned it around of late, but I need to see a lot more of that before I can get totally behind him.

At times I have seen very little movement of the Offensive set.....almost like they are resting during the first 10 seconds of the set. I saw that they pushed the ball more against the Rockets last game, almost like they don't want to run a set play.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

If we can get another game if Houston shooting below average from 3 with the Wolves shooting above their average from 3 we will have a shot tonight.

That first game is going to haunt them forever. It was there for the taking. That was their shot to really make it a series.

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I do expect a big game out of Towns tonight.

Even though he has shot poorly, and hasn't gotten the touches he needs, I liked his patience in game 3, as well as his rebounding and more aggressive when he did get the ball. I expect him to expand on that tonight.