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they didn't believe in Teddy enough to even have him on the roster for the playoff games.

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ORIGINAL: Art

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Art

What exactly has Sloter done to warrant enthusiasm anyway?

So, sign him and dump him? What should/could he have done to make you optimistic?

Maybe we stick with retreads, rentals, and back-ups. Maybe we stick with the run first, stop the run philosophy. Who needs a QB? Maybe we should actually invest in the process of developing a QB. What's the downside?

I can't comment.
I've seen nothing except a YouTube video of some preseason passes.
Thats why I'm asking ... why are people high on him?

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ORIGINAL: 69in09

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ORIGINAL: Art

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ORIGINAL: 69in09

Regarding Keenum no one wants to hear this but he is going to be asking for a contract probably 3/60m or 4/75m.

This is why the non exclusive of 1 year franchise tag for 23m is In play.

If the team decides he is not worth that, we can still tag him and he is a tradeable asset.

If we don’t pay him, someone will.

I think it's a foregone conclusion we are franchising him.
The question is Bridge. Do we force him to honor the CBA clause or offer him a deal first?

I think we should allow the contract to toll. His injury is the exact reason that clause is in there. He was an asset of ours and we paid him for two years with zero return. His contract should toll and he should be expected to perform at the previously agreed upon rate 1,3 m .

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ORIGINAL: 69in09

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-which-quarterback-will-be-under-center-for-the-vikings-next-season/

Good article about our QB situation and possible outcomes. Someone that finally addresses the Bridgewater "tolling" situation.

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ORIGINAL: marty

I wouldn't even gamble 15mil for Keenum.

Neither Keenum nor Bradford is worth any sort of gamble, they would only be worth a gamble if you got them BELOW market value, like 7mil(per season) or less. The only veteran worth gambling on would be Brees, throw 25mil per season at him, 2, maybe a 3 year deal.

Teddy is a gamble, but he shouldn't command a huge salary. I would go with Teddy and Sloter, and draft a QB in one of the 1st 3 rounds.

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ORIGINAL: Art

What exactly has Sloter done to warrant enthusiasm anyway?

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ORIGINAL: 69in09

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ORIGINAL: Art

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ORIGINAL: 69in09

Regarding Keenum no one wants to hear this but he is going to be asking for a contract probably 3/60m or 4/75m.

This is why the non exclusive of 1 year franchise tag for 23m is In play.

If the team decides he is not worth that, we can still tag him and he is a tradeable asset.

If we don’t pay him, someone will.

I think it's a foregone conclusion we are franchising him.
The question is Bridge. Do we force him to honor the CBA clause or offer him a deal first?

I think we should allow the contract to toll. His injury is the exact reason that clause is in there. He was an asset of ours and we paid him for two years with zero return. His contract should toll and he should be expected to perform at the previously agreed upon rate 1,3 m .

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: 69in09

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-which-quarterback-will-be-under-center-for-the-vikings-next-season/

Good article about our QB situation and possible outcomes. Someone that finally addresses the Bridgewater "tolling" situation.

And because the wording of the rule is nebulous, it comes down to a judgement if TB could have played by week six. My guess is instead of going through the angst with the NFLPA, his contract will not be tolled.

Saying up front that TB will be a UFA may reduce pressure on the Vikes to sign him to a new contract.

I think he may hit the market, we end up resigning him to backup money, and he gets the chance to compete for the starting spot.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: 69in09

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-which-quarterback-will-be-under-center-for-the-vikings-next-season/

Good article about our QB situation and possible outcomes. Someone that finally addresses the Bridgewater "tolling" situation.

And because the wording of the rule is nebulous, it comes down to a judgement if TB could have played by week six. My guess is instead of going through the angst with the NFLPA, his contract will not be tolled.

Saying up front that TB will be a UFA may reduce pressure on the Vikes to sign him to a new contract.

I think he may hit the market, we end up resigning him to backup money, and he gets the chance to compete for the starting spot.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Art

What exactly has Sloter done to warrant enthusiasm anyway?

Rushed 72 times in college for a 0.4 average.

Tied to the whole 72 virgins thing.

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ORIGINAL: Art

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Art

What exactly has Sloter done to warrant enthusiasm anyway?

So, sign him and dump him? What should/could he have done to make you optimistic?

Maybe we stick with retreads, rentals, and back-ups. Maybe we stick with the run first, stop the run philosophy. Who needs a QB? Maybe we should actually invest in the process of developing a QB. What's the downside?

I can't comment.
I've seen nothing except a YouTube video of some preseason passes.
Thats why I'm asking ... why are people high on him?

He's raw as fukc. He's a today size QB. He's a pretty good athlete. Moves his feet. Can throw with extreme velocity. He's exactly the guy you want, providing you have a staff/system that can develop him. Unfortunately Norv and Scott are in Carolina, I'm sure they could put in the work to make him great.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: 69in09

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-which-quarterback-will-be-under-center-for-the-vikings-next-season/

Good article about our QB situation and possible outcomes. Someone that finally addresses the Bridgewater "tolling" situation.

And because the wording of the rule is nebulous, it comes down to a judgement if TB could have played by week six. My guess is instead of going through the angst with the NFLPA, his contract will not be tolled.

Saying up front that TB will be a UFA may reduce pressure on the Vikes to sign him to a new contract.

I think he may hit the market, we end up resigning him to backup money, and he gets the chance to compete for the starting spot.

Actually think there is a good chance he ends up in Miami.

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Art

What exactly has Sloter done to warrant enthusiasm anyway?

Rushed 72 times in college for a 0.4 average.

Tied to the whole 72 virgins thing.

Ah yes we got boatraced in the NFC Championship game, back to “What in the hell is Spielman doing” investing hope in this QB from nowhere?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: 69in09

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-which-quarterback-will-be-under-center-for-the-vikings-next-season/

Good article about our QB situation and possible outcomes. Someone that finally addresses the Bridgewater "tolling" situation.

And because the wording of the rule is nebulous, it comes down to a judgement if TB could have played by week six. My guess is instead of going through the angst with the NFLPA, his contract will not be tolled.

Saying up front that TB will be a UFA may reduce pressure on the Vikes to sign him to a new contract.

I think he may hit the market, we end up resigning him to backup money, and he gets the chance to compete for the starting spot.

Actually think there is a good chance he ends up in Miami.

Nope, we are trading your boy Sloter to Miami. Word on the street is two first-rounders.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Art

What exactly has Sloter done to warrant enthusiasm anyway?

Rushed 72 times in college for a 0.4 average.

Tied to the whole 72 virgins thing.

Ah yes we got boatraced in the NFC Championship game, back to “What in the hell is Spielman doing” investing hope in this QB from nowhere?

Just try to keep up and you'll be alright....

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ORIGINAL: marty

Interesting in the article Kurt, Bridgewater had an 86.3 rating, and then they compare that to Bradford and Keenum who had higher numbers with the Vikes.

But they were veterans. Comparing at the same point in the careers, Keenum's QB rating was in the 70s, and they didn't list Bradford's first few years. I'm guessing Bradford's was probably decent, he is just too injury prone to trust with starter's money.

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ORIGINAL: Art

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Art

What exactly has Sloter done to warrant enthusiasm anyway?

So, sign him and dump him? What should/could he have done to make you optimistic?

Maybe we stick with retreads, rentals, and back-ups. Maybe we stick with the run first, stop the run philosophy. Who needs a QB? Maybe we should actually invest in the process of developing a QB. What's the downside?

I can't comment.
I've seen nothing except a YouTube video of some preseason passes.
Thats why I'm asking ... why are people high on him?

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I know that Brady was a backup for the most part at Michigan, but in college most players start as backups. Very few of them are starters for all four seasons.

If you see here by his stats, Brady threw for 638 pass attempts, mostly in just his junior and senior years.

Brady played a key role in a dramatic bowl win after his fourth season, but he also performed poorly in his combine and Pro Day workouts. I believe that was the main reason he slipped so much in his draft.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tom-brady-1.html

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ORIGINAL: Art

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Art

What exactly has Sloter done to warrant enthusiasm anyway?

So, sign him and dump him? What should/could he have done to make you optimistic?

Maybe we stick with retreads, rentals, and back-ups. Maybe we stick with the run first, stop the run philosophy. Who needs a QB? Maybe we should actually invest in the process of developing a QB. What's the downside?

I can't comment.
I've seen nothing except a YouTube video of some preseason passes.
Thats why I'm asking ... why are people high on him?

Who knows what Sloter can be, nobody really does, it's just either wishful thinking, hope or in some cases, negativism. Doesn't really matter, he's a kid that looks the part and has many unanswered questions. History is full of guys nobody ever heard of that became successful. Hell, Tom Brady was a backup QB at Michigan, hardly had any tape before NE took a flier on him and look where he ended up. Really, compared to the rest of the issues the Vikings have, the investment here is insignificant, if he turns out to be an HOFer, some here will be able to say they saw it coming, if he's a turd, others get to pound their chest. We've seen these situations a thousand times, a German kid with good speed, an ultra athlete that ends up being a cage fighter, first rounders like Ryan Leaf that fizzle in to oblivion. Someone once took a chance on John Randle, look at Thielan, the list of over achievers is long, maybe this kid turns out to be one, it could be a good story, or "nothing here folks".

One thing I see from watching the tapes is he has great mechanics, so not a lot of work there. Hell, Teddy still cant throw correctly, three years in the league and he still can't throw a ball with proper trajectory. By this I mean a ball that drops from way up in the air as opposed to the lower arced passes he throws all the time. Sometimes you have to drop the ball in from the top, Keenum did it many times this year, it's an art not all passers have. (no pun intended {:~)

Sloter is just a guy, seems like a good kid, until he starts costing us big bucks and a roster spot that someone else deserves more, it will be an interesting story to watch unfold!