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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 12:07:01 PM   
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Patriots clinched a .500 or better record for 17th consecutive season, tying 1957-73 Cleveland Browns for second-longest streak in NFL history, behind only 1965-85 Dallas Cowboys and their 21 consecutive seasons.


Where'd those days go, Cleveland? Broke my heart that John E drove Denver down the field for the win at the end of the NFCCG - haven't hated on Cleveland since
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 12:15:08 PM   
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New post: Report: League admits error on grounding call that stalls [Washington's] last-minute drive


I thought that looked like a bullshit call. Cousins drops a step and fires it to the sideline which was clear the receiver ran an incorrect route - freekin' grounding (a call which most definitely wasn't created for that purpose)

Huge disadvantage handed to the 'Skiins trying win this game at end of the 4th q


I got that one totally wrong and I saw it live
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 12:22:35 PM   
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I thought that looked like a bullshit call. Cousins drops a step and fires it to the sideline which was clear the receiver ran an incorrect route - freekin' grounding (a call which most definitely wasn't created for that purpose)

Huge disadvantage handed to the 'Skiins trying win this game at end of the 4th q


I got that one totally wrong and I saw it live

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 12:32:59 PM   
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Maybe it's time the league considers making potentially game-changing penalties inside 2 mins become booth reviewable just like turnovers, and scoring plays.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 12:45:02 PM   
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Maybe it's time the league considers making potentially game-changing penalties inside 2 mins become booth reviewable just like turnovers, and scoring plays.

Yep! Right or wrong most people watching had an opinion on the call. How hard would it be for NY call in and say, "Hey we got that one wrong, Walt?"

- that has to be coming down the pike soon

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 12:51:39 PM   
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Just wondering if Thielen is a top 5 WR yet?


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 12:54:29 PM   
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I don't have to eat crow on the Oline, Lat Murray, or Case staying the starter.

I do have to eat some crow on Jarius Wright---I thought he should have been cut. All he does when he comes in is make big plays for his few snaps a game. Also McKinnon---he has been really productive and in the right role currently...



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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 12:57:31 PM   
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Speaking of inflections and mannerisms ... Mark Ingram is an Ian Joseph doppelganger.
Maybe not so much looks. Ian is much more handsome.
But the way they communicate ... wow.



Can Ian run like him?


Only from the police.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 1:00:42 PM   
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Jarius Wright

Targets 14
Catches 9
TDs 2
First Downs 7
Yards 123

On his 9 catches 7 Tds, and 2 First Downs....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 1:32:59 PM   
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Kind of got the feeling that Teddy was wowing them in practice, and here’s your evidence.

But I’m also appreciating the hell out of what Case is doing.

Doc I’m also sliding towards being about 1/4 HeadCase...

His throw to Rudolph down the seam was Bradfordesque-


Deion: "I pick you up in a Lamorghini to go to a batting cage, and you foul it off you shin!"

Zim: "You were bunting! Who goes to a batting cage and bunts? I was trying to hit jacks!!"


Case = bunting

Teddy = trying to hit jacks



Teddy starts after detoilet....i am now convinced

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 1:35:52 PM   
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If you like Teddy you gotta like Case.
They are almost exactly the same player.


except teddy has equaled Case's best in 2nd year vs Cases 'prime' years, and teddy equaled it with a bad oline/offense


the only question is can teddy be where he was pre-injury?

i have no idea


gonna be fun to see how it all plays out

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 1:40:20 PM   
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Packers running back arrested, before he made his first start
Posted by Darin Gantt on November 20, 2017, 12:24 PM EST

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Packers rookie running back Aaron Jones was apparently getting high even before he got elevated to the starting lineup.

According to Michael Cohen of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Jones was charged on Oct. 2, just before he made his first start against the Cowboys Oct. 8.

Jones was arrested after a traffic stop, during which he admitted smoking marijuana. He pleaded not guilty to charges of speeding, driving without a valid license and operating a vehicle with a controlled substance in his system, according to court records.

There was no previous report of the charges. He was stopped at 11:37 a.m. on Oct. 1 (it was after their Thursday night win over the Bears, so Sunday Morning Coming Down may or may not have been on the radio), and was clocked doing 79 mph in a 55-mph zone. The incident report said the officer observed Jones having bloodshot eyes, and that Jones admitted he smoked after breakfast.

The arrest will earn him greater scrutiny under the league’s substance abuse program, and potential suspension.

He ran for 125 yards against the Cowboys in his first start, and 131 against the Saints two weeks later, but he suffered a knee injury and is expected to miss a few more weeks.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 1:42:54 PM   
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If you like Teddy you gotta like Case.
They are almost exactly the same player.

except teddy has equaled Case's best in 2nd year vs Cases 'prime' years, and teddy equaled it with a bad oline/offense
the only question is can teddy be where he was pre-injury?
i have no idea
gonna be fun to see how it all plays out


???
Teddy's best full season:
65.3% completion
3231 yards
14 TD
9 Int

Case after 8 Starts, 1 Relief:
65.7% Completion
2194 yards
12 TDs
5 Int

You give Case a full year and he would easily beat Teddy's best season.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 1:51:48 PM   
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If you like Teddy you gotta like Case.
They are almost exactly the same player.

except teddy has equaled Case's best in 2nd year vs Cases 'prime' years, and teddy equaled it with a bad oline/offense
the only question is can teddy be where he was pre-injury?
i have no idea
gonna be fun to see how it all plays out


???
Teddy's best full season:
65.3% completion
3231 yards
14 TD
9 Int

Case after 8 Starts, 1 Relief:
65.7% Completion
2194 yards
12 TDs
5 Int

You give Case a full year and he would easily beat Teddy's best season.



you give Teddy a full year with this team and he would easily beat Teddy's best season, too


IMO

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 1:54:57 PM   
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IMO, Case has not done anything that Teddy cant do (with the possible exception of his deep passes)

has Teddy PROVEN he can do it, no

has Case PROVEN he can continue to do it, no


its a gamble either way, so if you have to gamble, you might as well swing for the fences

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 2:06:46 PM   
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IMO, Case has not done anything that Teddy cant do (with the possible exception of his deep passes)

has Teddy PROVEN he can do it, no

has Case PROVEN he can continue to do it, no


its a gamble either way, so if you have to gamble, you might as well swing for the fences

If we're swinging for fences, Case has already hit more long balls than Teddy in less than half the games for us.
Case seems way more the HR hitter and Teddy way more the bunter.
If you want to argue that Teddy was being asked to bunt, OK.
But production to date in a Vikings uniform, Case is doing more than Teddy has.
Not to mention keeping him off the field which is the biggest barometer of all considering he's "Zimmer's guy".

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 2:15:01 PM   
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If you like Teddy you gotta like Case.
They are almost exactly the same player.

except teddy has equaled Case's best in 2nd year vs Cases 'prime' years, and teddy equaled it with a bad oline/offense
the only question is can teddy be where he was pre-injury?
i have no idea
gonna be fun to see how it all plays out

???
Teddy's best full season:
65.3% completion
3231 yards
14 TD
9 Int
Case after 8 Starts, 1 Relief:
65.7% Completion
2194 yards
12 TDs
5 Int
You give Case a full year and he would easily beat Teddy's best season.

you give Teddy a full year with this team and he would easily beat Teddy's best season, too
IMO


I could speculate for Sam and Sloter too...Case is producing the numbers and making all the checks/calls. Going to be tough to replace Case with Teddy this year. You get WR production from Diggs/Thielen like they are....we haven't seen it since Moss/Carter.

# 5 Offense
# 8 Running
# 12 Passing

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 2:15:19 PM   
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IMO, Case has not done anything that Teddy cant do (with the possible exception of his deep passes)

has Teddy PROVEN he can do it, no

has Case PROVEN he can continue to do it, no


its a gamble either way, so if you have to gamble, you might as well swing for the fences

If we're swinging for fences, Case has already hit more long balls than Teddy in less than half the games for us.
Case seems way more the HR hitter and Teddy way more the bunter.
If you want to argue that Teddy was being asked to bunt, OK.
But production to date in a Vikings uniform, Case is doing more than Teddy has.
Not to mention keeping him off the field which is the biggest barometer of all considering he's "Zimmer's guy".


4th quarter game winning playoff drive...teddy drives us down to the 7 yard line for the game winning field goal = home run


chase on a good regular season run against several bad teams and a couple decent ones = double at best


JMO, opinions vary


i am OK with Case, and if we go that route.....lets see what happens



what i THINK will happen is.....Teddy time!!



gonna be crazy, but so was bringing in an old favre, which gave me my top 2 viking season in 30 years

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 2:18:45 PM   
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If you like Teddy you gotta like Case.
They are almost exactly the same player.

except teddy has equaled Case's best in 2nd year vs Cases 'prime' years, and teddy equaled it with a bad oline/offense
the only question is can teddy be where he was pre-injury?
i have no idea
gonna be fun to see how it all plays out

???
Teddy's best full season:
65.3% completion
3231 yards
14 TD
9 Int
Case after 8 Starts, 1 Relief:
65.7% Completion
2194 yards
12 TDs
5 Int
You give Case a full year and he would easily beat Teddy's best season.

you give Teddy a full year with this team and he would easily beat Teddy's best season, too
IMO


I could speculate for Sam and Sloter too...Case is producing the numbers and making all the checks/calls. Going to be tough to replace Case with Teddy this year. You get WR production from Diggs/Thielen like they are....we haven't seen it since Moss/Carter.


you are welcome to speculate....we do it every year with the offseason dreamin' scenarios


but the 'realistic' plans are only 2.....Teddy or Case


i have no idea what will happen, but my feeling is that Teddy gets his chance, and i am OK with that



its gonna take a lot of balls to pull a QB if we are looking at 9-2 with a 3 (and more accurately 3.5) game division lead with 5 to play

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 2:18:51 PM   
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IMO, Case has not done anything that Teddy cant do (with the possible exception of his deep passes)

has Teddy PROVEN he can do it, no

has Case PROVEN he can continue to do it, no


its a gamble either way, so if you have to gamble, you might as well swing for the fences

If we're swinging for fences, Case has already hit more long balls than Teddy in less than half the games for us.
Case seems way more the HR hitter and Teddy way more the bunter.
If you want to argue that Teddy was being asked to bunt, OK.
But production to date in a Vikings uniform, Case is doing more than Teddy has.
Not to mention keeping him off the field which is the biggest barometer of all considering he's "Zimmer's guy".


4th quarter game winning playoff drive...teddy drives us down to the 7 yard line for the game winning field goal = home run


chase on a good regular season run against several bad teams and a couple decent ones = double at best


JMO, opinions vary


i am OK with Case, and if we go that route.....lets see what happens



what i THINK will happen is.....Teddy time!!



gonna be crazy, but so was bringing in an old favre, which gave me my top 2 viking season in 30 years


You enjoyed 2010?

My bad. Never mind. I misread it.

Carry on.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 2:20:15 PM   
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that first lions game.....we really worked hard to lose that game




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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 2:21:15 PM   
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IMO, Case has not done anything that Teddy cant do (with the possible exception of his deep passes)

has Teddy PROVEN he can do it, no

has Case PROVEN he can continue to do it, no


its a gamble either way, so if you have to gamble, you might as well swing for the fences

If we're swinging for fences, Case has already hit more long balls than Teddy in less than half the games for us.
Case seems way more the HR hitter and Teddy way more the bunter.
If you want to argue that Teddy was being asked to bunt, OK.
But production to date in a Vikings uniform, Case is doing more than Teddy has.
Not to mention keeping him off the field which is the biggest barometer of all considering he's "Zimmer's guy".


4th quarter game winning playoff drive...teddy drives us down to the 7 yard line for the game winning field goal = home run


chase on a good regular season run against several bad teams and a couple decent ones = double at best


JMO, opinions vary


i am OK with Case, and if we go that route.....lets see what happens



what i THINK will happen is.....Teddy time!!



gonna be crazy, but so was bringing in an old favre, which gave me my top 2 viking season in 30 years


You enjoyed 2010?

My bad. Never mind. I misread it.

Carry on.



ahhh, yes i see how that could be read...

i meant 2009 and 1998 are my 2 favorite vikings seasons

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 2:35:53 PM   
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If you like Teddy you gotta like Case.
They are almost exactly the same player.

except teddy has equaled Case's best in 2nd year vs Cases 'prime' years, and teddy equaled it with a bad oline/offense
the only question is can teddy be where he was pre-injury?
i have no idea
gonna be fun to see how it all plays out

???
Teddy's best full season:
65.3% completion
3231 yards
14 TD
9 Int
Case after 8 Starts, 1 Relief:
65.7% Completion
2194 yards
12 TDs
5 Int
You give Case a full year and he would easily beat Teddy's best season.

you give Teddy a full year with this team and he would easily beat Teddy's best season, too
IMO


I could speculate for Sam and Sloter too...Case is producing the numbers and making all the checks/calls. Going to be tough to replace Case with Teddy this year. You get WR production from Diggs/Thielen like they are....we haven't seen it since Moss/Carter.


you are welcome to speculate....we do it every year with the offseason dreamin' scenarios


but the 'realistic' plans are only 2.....Teddy or Case


i have no idea what will happen, but my feeling is that Teddy gets his chance, and i am OK with that



its gonna take a lot of balls to pull a QB if we are looking at 9-2 with a 3 (and more accurately 3.5) game division lead with 5 to play

More like a lot of tequila ...

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 2:47:41 PM   
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If you like Teddy you gotta like Case.
They are almost exactly the same player.

except teddy has equaled Case's best in 2nd year vs Cases 'prime' years, and teddy equaled it with a bad oline/offense
the only question is can teddy be where he was pre-injury?
i have no idea
gonna be fun to see how it all plays out


???
Teddy's best full season:
65.3% completion
3231 yards
14 TD
9 Int

Case after 8 Starts, 1 Relief:
65.7% Completion
2194 yards
12 TDs
5 Int

You give Case a full year and he would easily beat Teddy's best season.



you give Teddy a full year with this team and he would easily beat Teddy's best season, too


IMO


You mean the one he put up as a 22 year old?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2017 2:53:55 PM   
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Teddy's best season
16 Games
3231 yards
14 TD
9 Int
Rate 88.7
QBR 60.4

Case 2017
8.5 games
2194 Yards
12 TD
5 Int
Rate 93.7
QBR 73.9
Mobility---5 Sacks Taken in 8.5 games.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

Case is #2 in QBR right now----Deshaun Watson is #1.

I love to speculate but it would take more than balls to put Teddy in, it would take brass balls.....

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