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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/4/2018 10:54:04 PM   
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What I read is that he will go earlier in the first round. Too early, I guess to have a handle on the draft. We haven't had the combine, yet.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/5/2018 2:44:48 PM   
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Sources who have done advance work on the 2018 class are really impressed and intrigued with St. Brown. They say he is a super-polished route runner with tremendous speed, athletic ability, body control, and hands. They said they think St. Brown could be more gifted and talented than the three wideouts who went in the top 10 of the 2017 NFL Draft


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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/8/2018 11:46:10 AM   
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Loaded RB class. We should be able to get someone later in the draft that can replace Jet and provide insurance for Cook. I would ask Murray to restructure his contract as well.


OT. Be great if Williams fell to 30. Also ok with OG Hernendez or Price in first round.
DT. Hope Nnadi falls to second round. If not, maybe Arden Key?

Possible that TE gesicki or fumagalli falls to 3rd?

I'd be very happy with that start to the draft.

After that pick up a RB and draft best available in each round.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/8/2018 12:45:14 PM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8BNzcGBAF8

Equanimeous St. Brown

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Sources who have done advance work on the 2018 class are really impressed and intrigued with St. Brown. They say he is a super-polished route runner with tremendous speed, athletic ability, body control, and hands. They said they think St. Brown could be more gifted and talented than the three wideouts who went in the top 10 of the 2017 NFL Draft



He should be available in the later rounds. I want to see Price or Hernandez with our first pick. We need to be dominant in the middle of the oline.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/10/2018 10:57:46 AM   
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I would have the Browns on speed dial. I really hope they love someone at 30 and want to leapfrog the Pats. Drop 2 spots and pick up additional pick(s). Browns have 2 1sts, 3 2nds

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/10/2018 12:52:36 PM   
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MAURICE HURST! Check this guy out, Him next Joseph, ooh ooh ooh wee!!!!


This is my guy too, Sky. Could help take our D to the next level!

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/12/2018 2:32:35 PM   
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I would have the Browns on speed dial. I really hope they love someone at 30 and want to leapfrog the Pats. Drop 2 spots and pick up additional pick(s). Browns have 2 1sts, 3 2nds


I do believe that the end of the first round is valuable because the team retains longer control within the rookie contract. According to a trade chart from this site, trading up three spots from 33 to 30 is worth a pick near the top of the fifth round. Of course, if the player that is coveted happens to be a quarterback, then that could easily be inflated.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/30/nfl-teams-have-revised-the-draft-trade-chart/

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/13/2018 9:47:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: BigSky

MAURICE HURST! Check this guy out, Him next Joseph, ooh ooh ooh wee!!!!


This is my guy too, Sky. Could help take our D to the next level!


This would be the most impactful move we could make. Yes, we need to add to the oline and more depth at CB, but a disruptive 3 technique DT would push our dline to another level.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/13/2018 9:57:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: BigSky

MAURICE HURST! Check this guy out, Him next Joseph, ooh ooh ooh wee!!!!


This is my guy too, Sky. Could help take our D to the next level!


This would be the most impactful move we could make. Yes, we need to add to the oline and more depth at CB, but a disruptive 3 technique DT would push our dline to another level.

Seems he'll be long gone by the time we pick......
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/22/2018 1:26:54 AM   
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http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2018/02/10-names-vikings-fans-need-know-enter-draft-season/

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/22/2018 10:17:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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MAURICE HURST! Check this guy out, Him next Joseph, ooh ooh ooh wee!!!!


This is my guy too, Sky. Could help take our D to the next level!


This would be the most impactful move we could make. Yes, we need to add to the oline and more depth at CB, but a disruptive 3 technique DT would push our dline to another level.

Seems he'll be long gone by the time we pick......

Projected high 20's, Time to start a bad rumor about him.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/22/2018 7:58:29 PM   
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One "draft picker" suggested this guy would be our first selection- an athletic defensive tackle with an upside, but who would need a bit more time to develop. (Maybe a bit like Danielle Hunter) This may point out how a free agent DT might be a better way to go. It seems that the best DT's are more "mature".

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/taven-bryan?id=2560140

I say that he would be a possibility if we trade down to the top of the second round or if he slips to farther in the second round.

https://withthefirstpick.com/2017/12/08/taven-bryan-florida-2018-nfl-draft-scouting-report/

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/22/2018 8:06:17 PM   
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DTs usually do take some time to develop. Might just be a strength issue because young man strength just isn't the same as mature man strength.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/22/2018 8:12:39 PM   
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One option for free agency would be a restricted free agent from the Cowboys. (Sorry, because I know this is a draft thread, but it makes sense to get a defensive tackle who has had a couple of years under his belt and then that leaves us the option to go for an offensive lineman in the first round.)

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2018/01/03/cowboys-dl-david-irving-explains-sucks-restricted-free-agent

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/22/2018 9:24:45 PM   
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One option for free agency would be a restricted free agent from the Cowboys. (Sorry, because I know this is a draft thread, but it makes sense to get a defensive tackle who has had a couple of years under his belt and then that leaves us the option to go for an offensive lineman in the first round.)

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2018/01/03/cowboys-dl-david-irving-explains-sucks-restricted-free-agent





Nice find Bruce. 24 years old. In 8 games filled up the stat sheet, 6 pass deflections and 7 sacks. Could be a monster next to Joseph.

Wonder what it would take go make Dallas not match an offer.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/22/2018 9:38:02 PM   
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-mock-draft-browns-lead-off-with-qb-seahawks-saints-eagles-boost-o-line/

30. Minnesota Vikings
Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan. Assuming the Vikings figure out what to do with their free-agent quarterbacks heading into the draft, they could be looking to add talent at one of a few different positions. One spot where they have a need is at defensive tackle, where Sharrif Floyd can't be counted on to resume his career anytime soon. Hurst is undersized for an NFL defensive tackle, but he has the speed to penetrate into the backfield and should give the team's pass-rush a boost.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/22/2018 10:27:20 PM   
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-mock-draft-browns-lead-off-with-qb-seahawks-saints-eagles-boost-o-line/

30. Minnesota Vikings
Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan. Assuming the Vikings figure out what to do with their free-agent quarterbacks heading into the draft, they could be looking to add talent at one of a few different positions. One spot where they have a need is at defensive tackle, where Sharrif Floyd can't be counted on to resume his career anytime soon. Hurst is undersized for an NFL defensive tackle, but he has the speed to penetrate into the backfield and should give the team's pass-rush a boost.



I’d like this.

Tape is good...

Big sky put a great tape on here of this guy.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/24/2018 12:52:44 AM   
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Two compensatory sixth round picks are like 7th rounders which are like preferred undrafted free agents. I guess they’re also collateral for trader Rick.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-hands-out-compensatory-picks-for-2018-nfl-draft-cowboys-packers-big-winners/

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/24/2018 7:01:53 AM   
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Just looking at what we have for draft picks now. Day three looks like we will have to be patient. No fourth rounder and we have to wait until pick number 166. All of the other picks will be in the 200's. Day one and day two should be fully loaded, although our picks come near the end of the rounds.

This article assumes that Spielman will make some deals, probably to trade down. That's a good assumption in day three. In day one and two anything can happen. The sobering thing is that we may only get three or four players who actually play on Sundays for this season and it might even be two.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2018/2/23/17046490/vikings-officially-awarded-two-compensatory-draft-picks

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/24/2018 10:17:29 AM   
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Just looking at what we have for draft picks now. Day three looks like we will have to be patient. No fourth rounder and we have to wait until pick number 166. All of the other picks will be in the 200's. Day one and day two should be fully loaded, although our picks come near the end of the rounds.

This article assumes that Spielman will make some deals, probably to trade down. That's a good assumption in day three. In day one and two anything can happen. The sobering thing is that we may only get three or four players who actually play on Sundays for this season and it might even be two.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2018/2/23/17046490/vikings-officially-awarded-two-compensatory-draft-picks


I wouldn't be worried about anything with the draft. We started with less picks last year and drafted a ton of dudes.

And it shouldn't be sobering that we might only get a few players who will make the team. We are no longer building; we are now reloading. That's what happens when you're good.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/24/2018 10:32:02 AM   
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Then we should be trading up this year.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/24/2018 11:32:57 AM   
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One option for free agency would be a restricted free agent from the Cowboys. (Sorry, because I know this is a draft thread, but it makes sense to get a defensive tackle who has had a couple of years under his belt and then that leaves us the option to go for an offensive lineman in the first round.)

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2018/01/03/cowboys-dl-david-irving-explains-sucks-restricted-free-agent





Nice find Bruce. 24 years old. In 8 games filled up the stat sheet, 6 pass deflections and 7 sacks. Could be a monster next to Joseph.

Wonder what it would take go make Dallas not match an offer.


Seems disgruntled about his low salary, but fortunately mentioned being kicked off the team in college.

Although the article did NOT quote him discussing his FOUR GAME SUSPENSION which knocked another 25% off his salary.

I'd pass on this clown.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/24/2018 4:02:04 PM   
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We wound up with 8 picks last year. I know we didn't have a first round selection, but our turn in the draft order wasn't #30.

Here are the picks. Obviously, Cook was a solid selection, but he didn't help us when we needed him the most. (in the playoffs) Elflein was a solid pick, too, but I don't think he was 100% healthy in the playoffs either. Gedeon played some with base formations, but he was not a transformational player. Maybe he will improve this year. A couple of the later picks look promising for the future, but the jury is out.

I'm not sure we can say that we "drafted a ton of dudes". Let's say that we did. (especially if Isidora develops into a nice starter) Regardless, it did not impact our efforts in the post season. I don't know how much we can count on this upcoming crop to make a significant impact in 2018.

http://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/22513/minnesota-vikings-2017-draft-picks-analysis-for-every-selection

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/24/2018 4:21:52 PM   
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Having rookies start and play well was a huge component for NO having a big year.

With the 1st two picks reinforce the trenches.

I'd like to see us draft another rb in rd 3 to replace Jet. I think we keep Murray so I'd target a receiving rb.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/24/2018 4:26:46 PM   
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May have to scratch the idea of keeping Murray

Latavius Murray - $6,350,000

I thought he was only making about 3.5ml

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