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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/28/2018 6:54:00 PM   
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The combine starts tomorrow and lasts a week. Who are you focusing on? O-linemen? Corners? D-linemen? (especially 3 techniques?)





i would like a big WR, too



It might be worth taking a look at using a late round pick on Jake Wieneke from South Dakota State and Maple Grove.

How about his TE teammate?

I would love to see Dallas Goedert in Purple. Not sure that the Vikings are going to spend as high of a pick as it would take to get him. He is expected to go late first/early second. He has the potential to be a great pass-catching TE.


I've read some different things on Goedert. Some people have him as the first or second te off the board, and others say that he may be there in the fourth or fifth. Is there an injury concern with him?

He had a foot/ankle problem early season that he played through - he probably should have sat a game or two and completely healed. From about mid-season on, he was back to full strength and really piled up the stats. He did injure a hammy in practice for the Senior Bowl. I would be very surprised if he is still available in the fourth.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/28/2018 6:59:52 PM   
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I don't think we have a fourth rounder anyway.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/28/2018 9:31:53 PM   
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The combine starts tomorrow and lasts a week. Who are you focusing on? O-linemen? Corners? D-linemen? (especially 3 techniques?)





i would like a big WR, too



It might be worth taking a look at using a late round pick on Jake Wieneke from South Dakota State and Maple Grove.


The next sunglass salesman?

Having watched Wieneke for 4 years, there are some similarities to Theilen's game.


Is he related to that Weineke QB that got drafted when he was like 30?
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 2/28/2018 9:53:40 PM   
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The combine starts tomorrow and lasts a week. Who are you focusing on? O-linemen? Corners? D-linemen? (especially 3 techniques?)





i would like a big WR, too



It might be worth taking a look at using a late round pick on Jake Wieneke from South Dakota State and Maple Grove.


The next sunglass salesman?

Having watched Wieneke for 4 years, there are some similarities to Theilen's game.


Is he related to that Weineke QB that got drafted when he was like 30?

Nope - QB was Weinke. Receiver is Wieneke.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 2:02:12 PM   
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Anybody at the combine catch your eye?

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 5:14:19 PM   
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Anybody at the combine catch your eye?


I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but Hernandez pushed 225 37 times. I watched him at UTEP. He is a bull inside, and he shows some movement ability. Not like Nelson, but not bad, either. I also want to see how Sutton runs. He's bigger than Treadwell, but he can play and would look great teamed with Shades and Diggs.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 5:17:08 PM   
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And the new guy here has me interested in the Goedert kid at te.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 5:21:04 PM   
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It will be good to see how Vea looks at the combine, but he won't be there for us in the first round. He's be a great addition to the dline rotation.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 5:31:10 PM   
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Vander Esch would give us the ability to blitz Barr more, and free up Kendricks to make more plays in coverage. I want to see him in the three cone drill
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 7:24:27 PM   
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Anybody at the combine catch your eye?


I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but Hernandez pushed 225 37 times. I watched him at UTEP. He is a bull inside, and he shows some movement ability. Not like Nelson, but not bad, either. I also want to see how Sutton runs. He's bigger than Treadwell, but he can play and would look great teamed with Shades and Diggs.


I'm in on Hernandez. I just looked up his draft profile. He looks like a guy that opposing teams will hope that he won't be drafted by a team in their division and then have to play twice every year.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/will-hernandez?id=2559828

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 7:29:46 PM   
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Here is Sutton's draft profile. I wouldn't be interested in a "possession receiver" until the third round. I would be willing to trade up in that round for him, though. I would not trade down from the second for him just because I don't see receiver as being a compelling need.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/courtland-sutton?id=2560018

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 7:34:14 PM   
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My hunch about Goedert is that he won't be able to do at the NFL level what he did at the small school level. I say no, to him unless he falls to the third round. (and I wouldn't trade up for him)

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/dallas-goedert?id=2559850

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 7:38:09 PM   
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Here is Sutton's draft profile. I wouldn't be interested in a "possession receiver" until the third round. I would be willing to trade up in that round for him, though. I would not trade down from the second for him just because I don't see receiver as being a compelling need.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/courtland-sutton?id=2560018


Why would you be willing to trade up for him if you don't see receiver as being a compelling need?
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 7:40:06 PM   
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Vander Esch looks like he will be a player, but I can't see us using our precious first rounder on a third linebacker when we have a major need on the offensive line/ defense tackle. (whichever we don't address in free agency- I predict one, but not the other will be addressed before the draft) If we got our o-lineman in the first, I would be ok trading up for him if he slips in the second round.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/leighton-vander%20esch?id=2560232

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 7:41:41 PM   
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Here is Sutton's draft profile. I wouldn't be interested in a "possession receiver" until the third round. I would be willing to trade up in that round for him, though. I would not trade down from the second for him just because I don't see receiver as being a compelling need.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/courtland-sutton?id=2560018


Why would you be willing to trade up for him if you don't see receiver as being a compelling need?


I'm a value guy. I am good with a second rounder in the third round. Also, I'm assuming we address needs in rounds one and two.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 7:57:59 PM   
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Over at Walter Football's "consensus draft", they have the Vikings with Billy Price being the most popular choice at 16%, Mike McGlinchey at 10% (will he be available?- I doubt it), and Will Hernandez at 10%.

http://www.walterfootball.com/mocks/Consensus/nfl/2018/1

Just in case, here is McGlinchey's draft profile:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/mike-mcglinchey?id=2559891

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 8:05:43 PM   
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Here is Sutton's draft profile. I wouldn't be interested in a "possession receiver" until the third round. I would be willing to trade up in that round for him, though. I would not trade down from the second for him just because I don't see receiver as being a compelling need.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/courtland-sutton?id=2560018


Why would you be willing to trade up for him if you don't see receiver as being a compelling need?


I'm a value guy. I am good with a second rounder in the third round. Also, I'm assuming we address needs in rounds one and two.


You wouldn't trade down from the 2nd to the 3rd for him?
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 8:33:50 PM   
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I would not. That's me. There will be other guys who slide at positions of greater need for us than "possession receiver". But when a guy slides a whole round, then I will have to consider, yes.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 8:35:25 PM   
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Over at Walter Football's "consensus draft", they have the Vikings with Billy Price being the most popular choice at 16%, Mike McGlinchey at 10% (will he be available?- I doubt it), and Will Hernandez at 10%.

http://www.walterfootball.com/mocks/Consensus/nfl/2018/1

Just in case, here is McGlinchey's draft profile:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/mike-mcglinchey?id=2559891


Billy Price probably just tore his pectoral doing the bench press at the combine.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 8:37:32 PM   
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Yikes. Cross him off the list.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 8:45:15 PM   
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Yikes. Cross him off the list.

And that pushes every other OL player up a spot or two.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 8:57:39 PM   
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We don't know what positions will be reinforced during free agency yet, but as it stands now, I would be three times more inclined to draft a nickel corner than a possession receiver. I'd say it's a screaming need.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 9:16:47 PM   
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Yikes. Cross him off the list.



Maybe he/Price drops to the late second round as a result? Pick up Hurst and Price without trading up?

Sign me up.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 10:39:41 PM   
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I would not. That's me. There will be other guys who slide at positions of greater need for us than "possession receiver". But when a guy slides a whole round, then I will have to consider, yes.


You would trade up to draft him in the 3rd, but you wouldn't trade down to draft him in third. IOWs you would rather have him in the third round, having lost some draft picks trading up to get him, vs getting him in the 3rd having added draft picks by trading down to get him.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 3/1/2018 10:58:16 PM   
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I thought I was complicated, but you read me like a book.

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