From: Olympia, WA
ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson
ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson
I don't know about him not being a top ten quarterback. I was thinking that he was as good as some of the players in the Pro Bowl. There were three from each team and then of course Brady and Wentz deserved to be there, but weren't. I do believe that Case would have to be considered in the next grouping based on his season. I would say that it's debatable.
You can make the point that this season was an outlier and that he needs to do it again to deserve the top ten ranking. I guess I could agree with that.
i look at it like this...
WHERE can we REASONABLY expect improvement on offense
LT...marginal improvement, Reiff was elite for the first half of the season, fell off a bit in the 2nd half
LG...probably could find an upgrade, so improvement could be had
C....not really, should be even better next year
RG....probably could find an upgrade, but it was solid, marginal improvement
RT....Remmers was solid/pretty good the first half, marginal improvement
TE....probably could use some speed, but pretty productive, marginal improvement
WR...maybe need some size, marginal improvement at best (unless you talk depth)
RB....not much improvement to be had
so that leaves QB
Case had his best season, but has some very obvious limitations. IMO, he had his Derek Anderson/Nick Foles year
i could be wrong, but I dont see him as a top 20 QB long term....was he this year? sure. probably top 10, but i can list a lot of QBs i would rather take a shot with
When you have the best defense in the NFL, you still would like an elite quarterback, but if you can't get one of those then you would like an efficient quarterback who doesn't make mistakes and you complement him with a nice rushing attack.
The problem is that this team was not the kind of team that could come from behind by two touchdowns. In the Eagles game we fell behind. Part of that was on the offense by giving up the ball and even allowing the Eagles defense to score. Philadelphia is a very tough place to play and the 75,000 fans made it a really tough environment. The defense also gave up some huge plays. We can say that that was inexplicable, but they also did that in the Carolina game (on the road) That might have been the game that we lost the Super Bowl on. That was a game where we could have prevailed. The Eagles would have had a tough time winning at our place and that is where the game would have been if we had beat the Panthers.
The Lions game could also have been a difference maker. The bleeping Lions beat us at our place. We were down because we already lost our starting quarterback, and then we lost our stud running back in the game. Case was not up to the challenge. I remember that the Lions secondary played really aggressively and the refs let them play. Murray was still not 100% coming back from surgery and so it was on Case to find a way at home to win that game- but he could not. He was the backup and he still didn't have his wings, yet, like he did on a couple subsequent games. Maybe he could have prevailed if he had a couple more games under his belt. I actually think one of the main reasons he did better in the middle of the season was because Murray got better. Having a good running attack can make any quarterback look better. Look at Dak Prescott.
So how can we get better? Getting Cook back next year will really make the offense look better, but I think we should continue to look to upgrade the offensive line. A quarterback will look better if he has time to throw, too.
Our team made a big step forward in improvement this year largely because our offensive line improved. Imagine if we can take one more huge step. I would focus on that during the off-season.
I concur. Shurmur made our offense better than the sum of it's parts.
We have two good/great WRs, an above average TE. The rest of the pieces we had on offense are average or worse. Cook is a dynamic piece, if he can return to form.
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