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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/13/2018 12:10:41 PM   
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I wish someone would ask Taylor how it feels to be the owner of the biggest laughingstock in sports. And not leave until he acknowledges that he is exactly that and provides a real answer.

Glen seems oblivious to his surroundings.

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/13/2018 12:11:20 PM   
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I wish someone would ask Taylor how it feels to be the owner of the biggest laughingstock in sports. And not leave until he acknowledges that he is exactly that and provides a real answer.
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I can see Glen falling apart right now by not realizing how big a problem Thibs has become. You take the advise of a top consulting firm and you bring in Thibs as POBO and he brings the scouting office and assistant coaches and players. I have every reason to believe that Glen had no idea how big of a disaster that Thibs had become and the amount of deceit that Thibs has undertaken. Thibs has to be the most toxic person right now. Yes we are a laughing stock right now, but the people who are laughing the hardest are the people who have never run anything in their lives. Those that laugh will never have to fork over the money that Taylor will need to do to correct this problem.
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/13/2018 12:17:15 PM   
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I wish someone would ask Taylor how it feels to be the owner of the biggest laughingstock in sports. And not leave until he acknowledges that he is exactly that and provides a real answer.
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I can see Glen falling apart right now by not realizing how big a problem Thibs has become. You take the advise of a top consulting firm and you bring in Thibs as POBO and he brings the scouting office and assistant coaches and players. I have every reason to believe that Glen had no idea how big of a disaster that Thibs had become and the amount of deceit that Thibs has undertaken. Thibs has to be the most toxic person right now. Yes we are a laughing stock right now, but the people who are laughing the hardest are the people who have never run anything in their lives. Those that laugh will never have to fork over the money that Taylor will need to do to correct this problem.

Taylor has billions so I really don't feel sorry for him.

I do feel sorry that Glen got duped (as did we all) in to hiring this snake.

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/13/2018 12:46:48 PM   
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I wish someone would ask Taylor how it feels to be the owner of the biggest laughingstock in sports. And not leave until he acknowledges that he is exactly that and provides a real answer.

Thibs and Taylor would be celebrated if not for Butler going psycho. All it takes to destroy your reputation is for one player to go psycho.

Thib's has wondered off the reservation on this one too. He kept it under wraps all summer hoping it would all be peachy coming TC.

Couple that with his out dated schemes

I think Thibs spent a year visiting with different teams and the only thing he learned (erroneously) is that if he is the POBO and coach, he has complete control of the franchise and answers to no one. And he's learning that's not the case now.

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/13/2018 12:54:20 PM   
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Thibs sucks, Butler just accelerated everybody to the obvious.

He is a dinosaur, his style is dead for today’s NBA and major college basketball for that matter.

He seems to collect old Bulls that were not able to get over the hump when they were good.

Time to fire everybody and start over.
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/13/2018 12:57:00 PM   
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Thib's turned a great situation in to a dog and pony show in 2 years

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/13/2018 2:28:39 PM   
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I wish someone would ask Taylor how it feels to be the owner of the biggest laughingstock in sports. And not leave until he acknowledges that he is exactly that and provides a real answer.

Thibs and Taylor would be celebrated if not for Butler going psycho. All it takes to destroy your reputation is for one player to go psycho.

Thib's has wondered off the reservation on this one too. He kept it under wraps all summer hoping it would all be peachy coming TC.

Couple that with his out dated schemes

That produced 47 wins and first playoffs in 14 years and the 4th most efficient offense in the league.

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/13/2018 3:11:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Elliot

I wish someone would ask Taylor how it feels to be the owner of the biggest laughingstock in sports. And not leave until he acknowledges that he is exactly that and provides a real answer.

Thibs and Taylor would be celebrated if not for Butler going psycho. All it takes to destroy your reputation is for one player to go psycho.

Thib's has wondered off the reservation on this one too. He kept it under wraps all summer hoping it would all be peachy coming TC.

Couple that with his out dated schemes

That produced 47 wins and first playoffs in 14 years and the 4th most efficient offense in the league.

I think we would have been that good without him. We are not going to be beyond the 7th seed even if Thibs was ok and Jimmy was willing to play here long term. With the present dog an pony show we will be destroyed.
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 12:01:50 PM   
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Geezus, haven't they fired the ogre yet?

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 12:59:11 PM   
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It is being reported that Glen is at practice today.

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 1:34:35 PM   
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What a cluster of an organization we are.

Jon Krawczynski✔@JonKrawczynski
Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor spotted at practice today, a rare appearance for him.
10:49 AM - Oct 14, 2018

Timberwolves PR✔@Twolves_PR
Talking to media following practice, Thibs confirmed Jimmy Butler practiced today and expects him to play on Wednesday. #Twolves
10:54 AM - Oct 14, 2018

Jon Krawczynski@JonKrawczynski
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Asked Jimmy Butler if he expects negative reaction on Friday (if he’s still here):
“Sure. Go ahead, boo me. It ain’t going to change the way I play. That’s going to make me smile more. So please, come on with it.”

Shams Charania@ShamsCharania
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Minnesota's Jimmy Butler practiced again Sunday and is expected to play in season opener in San Antonio on Wednesday. Heat/Timberwolves talks have been dead, for now, league sources said.
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 1:49:19 PM   
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What a cluster of an organization we are.

Jon Krawczynski✔@JonKrawczynski
Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor spotted at practice today, a rare appearance for him.
10:49 AM - Oct 14, 2018

Timberwolves PR✔@Twolves_PR
Talking to media following practice, Thibs confirmed Jimmy Butler practiced today and expects him to play on Wednesday. #Twolves
10:54 AM - Oct 14, 2018

Jon Krawczynski@JonKrawczynski
11m11 minutes ago
Asked Jimmy Butler if he expects negative reaction on Friday (if he’s still here):
“Sure. Go ahead, boo me. It ain’t going to change the way I play. That’s going to make me smile more. So please, come on with it.”

Shams Charania@ShamsCharania
36m36 minutes ago
Minnesota's Jimmy Butler practiced again Sunday and is expected to play in season opener in San Antonio on Wednesday. Heat/Timberwolves talks have been dead, for now, league sources said.

Glad to hear talks are dead. I'd rather have Butler. Go Wolves!!

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 2:08:54 PM   
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I can't remember ever being so unexcited for a Wolves season to start. Especially a year where they actually drafted my guy.
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 2:09:27 PM   
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Can't recall any situation like this, with everything out in the open. MIN w/ Butler healthy is a 50-ish-win team. They have Butler healthy. So how many wins do public unhappiness, awkwardness, dislike, contempt, suspicion, etc. cost? We might find out. Is it maybe 0?
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 2:56:06 PM   
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Nate:
There are some really upset people over there right now. It’s completely dysfunctional and the one guy who can do anything about it isn’t doing anything about it.
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 2:58:14 PM   
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There is a reason we're the worst existing franchise in the league.

It looked like we had a chance to have the Clippers pass us this year, but its looking more and more unlikely now.
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 5:00:18 PM   
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I can't remember ever being so unexcited for a Wolves season to start. Especially a year where they actually drafted my guy.


Yep. I can't imagine anyone thinking that going into the season with this level of dysfunction is a good thing. I really can't see us repeating that glorious season when we won 47 games and got pole.axed in the first round..

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 5:16:52 PM   
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I can't remember ever being so unexcited for a Wolves season to start. Especially a year where they actually drafted my guy.


Yep. I can't imagine anyone thinking that going into the season with this level of dysfunction is a good thing. I really can't see us repeating that glorious season when we won 47 games and got pole.axed in the first round..


I can imagine 1 person.

But I'm also kind of convinced he just reads box scores and doesn't actually watch games...
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 6:13:11 PM   
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I'm kinda sorry that I can't cancel League Pass more than once this year.

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 6:50:17 PM   
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Interesting to think about the season if Butler blows out his knee or something season ending.
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 6:56:18 PM   
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I wonder if this went like his sit-down with Wiggins where Andrew promised to play harder? Its amazing Taylor has made it to where he has when all his instincts are to bury his head in the sand whenever there is conflict.

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All​ of​ the​ negative energy, the salacious headlines and​ the mixed messages surrounding the​ Timberwolves prompted Glen​ Taylor​​ and his wife, Becky, to hit the road early on Sunday morning for a 90-minute drive to the Twin Cities.

Three days before the start of the regular season, Taylor met with his disgruntled All-Star before practice, searching for some sort of understanding to calm the noise that has drowned out any sense of excitement for the upcoming season. In the meeting, Taylor and Butler came to an agreement, sources said: Taylor will continue to work diligently to find a trade as soon as possible. Until that happens, Butler will be a good teammate and play as hard as he always does.

There may have been some sort of accord reached, but the situation is “fluid,” as Thibodeau likes to call it and could change at a moment’s notice. One thing was certain: Butler wasn’t walking anything back. Speaking carefully, and occasionally coyly, to avoid breaking any league rules about publicly discussing trade requests, Butler said there has been no change in his stance and no second thoughts about how he has handled things.

https://theathletic.com/588295/2018/10/14/jimmy-butler-glen-taylor-timberwolves-understanding-opener-tom-thibodeau-trade-request/
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 7:11:40 PM   
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I wonder if this went like his sit-down with Wiggins where Andrew promised to play harder? Its amazing Taylor has made it to where he has when all his instincts are to bury his head in the sand whenever there is conflict.

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All​ of​ the​ negative energy, the salacious headlines and​ the mixed messages surrounding the​ Timberwolves prompted Glen​ Taylor​​ and his wife, Becky, to hit the road early on Sunday morning for a 90-minute drive to the Twin Cities.

Three days before the start of the regular season, Taylor met with his disgruntled All-Star before practice, searching for some sort of understanding to calm the noise that has drowned out any sense of excitement for the upcoming season. In the meeting, Taylor and Butler came to an agreement, sources said: Taylor will continue to work diligently to find a trade as soon as possible. Until that happens, Butler will be a good teammate and play as hard as he always does.

There may have been some sort of accord reached, but the situation is “fluid,” as Thibodeau likes to call it and could change at a moment’s notice. One thing was certain: Butler wasn’t walking anything back. Speaking carefully, and occasionally coyly, to avoid breaking any league rules about publicly discussing trade requests, Butler said there has been no change in his stance and no second thoughts about how he has handled things.

https://theathletic.com/588295/2018/10/14/jimmy-butler-glen-taylor-timberwolves-understanding-opener-tom-thibodeau-trade-request/


Please sell the team.

Sheesh

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 8:16:51 PM   
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Nate:

RUMINT has it Thibs and Layden are in lockstep and Taylor just couldn’t/wouldn’t believe some of the things that were being accused/described by non basketball ops personnel. It sounds like he got the dog and pony show and thought it was closer to everyday life than not. It is a completely toxic and gaslit workplace right now.

It is in no way sustainable.
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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 8:50:41 PM   
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I can't remember ever being so unexcited for a Wolves season to start. Especially a year where they actually drafted my guy.


Yep. I can't imagine anyone thinking that going into the season with this level of dysfunction is a good thing. I really can't see us repeating that glorious season when we won 47 games and got pole.axed in the first round..


I can imagine 1 person.

But I'm also kind of convinced he just reads box scores and doesn't actually watch games...

If you're talking about me I watch games and I don't think it's a good thing. I'm hopeful we can work through it.

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RE: Wolves 2018 offseason - 10/14/2018 10:18:41 PM   
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I don't want Butler around...you have to build and Butler doesn't want to be here. GS built a dynasty by having guys that wanted to play together.

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