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Does this sound like a guy even remotely interested in moving Butler, or doing what Taylor asks?

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SAN​ ANTONIO​ —​ Throughout this entire Jimmy Butler saga in​ Minnesota, Tom Thibodeau has been​ resolute in his​ position.

It’s​​ all overblown.

The All-Star and centerpoint of Thibodeau’s rebuilding process wanting out after one season in Minnesota?

“This isn’t the first time a player asked to be traded,” Thibodeau said on media day.

Butler’s continued public expression of annoyance and/or frustration with the development curve of Karl-Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins?

“I’ve been around a long time. I don’t buy into any of that stuff,” Thibodeau said during an appearance at the State Fair. “You have to distinguish what’s real and what’s not real.”

Butler returning to practice last week for the first time in three weeks and barking at anyone and everyone in the gym, including his coach and GM Scott Layden?

“As far as talking in practice, I’ve been in the NBA for 100 years,” Thibodeau said this week. “When players scrimmage, they’re going to talk. … There were several guys talking. That’s not uncommon.”

Leaving practice to do a nationally televised interview with ESPN all in an effort to make keeping him on this roster as difficult as possible?

“In today’s world, it’s a different world,” Thibodeau said. “There’s all the social media. It’s the accessibility. I have no problems with a guy doing interviews.”

A disconnect between his desires and those of owner Glen Taylor, who wants to grant Butler’s trade request?

“Great, great,” Thibodeau said of his communication with Taylor through this process. “The one thing about Glen is we probably talk, he, Scott and I, probably three or four times a day. It’s been clear that we’re always going to try to do what’s best for our team.”

Thibodeau has an answer for every twist and every unexpected turn in the Butler saga, all aimed at delivering the message that the nervousness and concern that has hung in the air in the Twin Cities is all completely unnecessary. This happens all the time, Thibodeau has said. Every team deals with adversity at some point in the season, he maintains. Move along. Nothing to see here.

https://theathletic.com/595232/2018/10/17/timberwolves-jimmy-butler-tom-thibodeau-season-opener-high-stakes/

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I wish we woulda made that trade with the Sixers. Hopefully it's still an option, but I doubt it. Teams don't wanna rethink their strategy once the regular season begins. It's not like baseball or hockey.

What trade with the sixers. Only one I heard being offered was Butler for Simmons.

Butler for Covington, Smith, Saric and a 1st round pick.

I think is talking about trade offers that you didn't make up.

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I wish we woulda made that trade with the Sixers. Hopefully it's still an option, but I doubt it. Teams don't wanna rethink their strategy once the regular season begins. It's not like baseball or hockey.

What trade with the sixers. Only one I heard being offered was Butler for Simmons.

Butler for Covington, Smith, Saric and a 1st round pick.

I think is talking about trade offers that you didn't make up.

Forgive me as I take this moment to beg for some validation. From 10/17/18.

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Had Glen not insist on signing Wiggins we could have simply let him walk after this season and have 25ml more cap space to sign useful players.

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I wish we woulda made that trade with the Sixers. Hopefully it's still an option, but I doubt it. Teams don't wanna rethink their strategy once the regular season begins. It's not like baseball or hockey.

What trade with the sixers. Only one I heard being offered was Butler for Simmons.

Butler for Covington, Smith, Saric and a 1st round pick.

I think is talking about trade offers that you didn't make up.

Forgive me as I take this moment to beg for some validation. From 10/17/18.

We didn't get an FRP or Smith. We had to take Bayless. So the actual deal is way below the deal you proposed. However, it is the most realistic deal we could have possibly hoped for and we got it done.
The Wolves are proving you don't have to take shit when a star requests a trade. Wiggins didn't work out well in the end, but getting the first overall pick and multiple FRPs for Love was far better than anyone imagined and this deal beats most of the expectations as well.

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Is it wrong for me to hope that Butler get's hurt?

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Jimmy Butler played in Friday's game with the Minnesota Timberwolves against the Sacramento Kings, but he viewed it as a "fork in the road" and was prepared to begin sitting indefinitely if the franchise didn't fulfill his trade request.

The Wolves were informed that Butler would stop playing.

Butler was traded the next day to the Philadelphia 76ers.

Brian Windhorst of ESPN reported that the Wolves were prepared to trade Butler after last Wednesday's game and began soliciting final offers. The Athletic reported that Butler was almost held out of Friday's game due to traction on a possible trade.

JON KRAWCZYNSKI, SHAMS CHARANIA/THE ATHLETIC

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We're not as talented of a basketball team as we were before the trade. We should be a better and more cohesive team from this point forward. We still have two huge problems.
Thibs and Wiggins.

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We're not as talented of a basketball team as we were before the trade. We should be a better and more cohesive team from this point forward. We still have two huge problems.
Thibs and Wiggins.

Thibs is a smart guy. Assuming he worked out the Butler trade for RoCo and Saric he did everything right in the very difficult Butler situation. He held out, suffered scorn and ridicule and in the end got the best trade imaginable at least to me.

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No, personally I hope the scoreboard falls on the douche bag.

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No, personally I hope the scoreboard falls on the douche bag.

Thought the NBA crew on ESPN nailed it pretty well.
"Butler will be great for the Sixers. Until the end of the season. After that, (once he starts telling everyone there what their problems are), not so much ..."

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Yeah, it's not like Thibs overplayed his hand and missed out on Richardson.

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Yeah, it's not like Thibs overplayed his hand and missed out on Richardson.

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Yeah, it's not like Thibs overplayed his hand and missed out on Richardson.

We didn't.

We missed out on Richardson+Waiters.

I love Richardson, but Waiters essentially cancels out his bargain contract.

Covington+Saric > Richardson.

For once, Taylor didn't screw things up. He did exactly what he said he was going to do. From ESPN:

The deal was negotiated on the ownership level with Philadelphia's Josh Harris and Minnesota's Glen Taylor, league sources said.

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Yeah, it's not like Thibs overplayed his hand and missed out on Richardson.

Covington+Saric > Richardson.

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For once, Taylor didn't screw things up. He did exactly what he said he was going to do. From ESPN:

The deal was negotiated on the ownership level with Philadelphia's Josh Harris and Minnesota's Glen Taylor, league sources said.

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For once, Taylor didn't screw things up. He did exactly what he said he was going to do. From ESPN:

The deal was negotiated on the ownership level with Philadelphia's Josh Harris and Minnesota's Glen Taylor, league sources said.

This doesn't bode well for Thibs and makes me think he was undermining the process all along. The owner had to step in and make a deal that his POBO couldn't get done. And it wasn't like stepping in and signing Joe Smith to an illegal contract or guaranteeing Troy Hudson's 6 year deal.