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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/13/2019 6:46:50 PM   
Mark Anderson

 

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Sure glad we didn't get Whitehair and Michael Thomas; I'd hate to have passed on Treadwell and Alexander........

Bad part is I think we wanted Treadwell and Doctson before Thomas.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/13/2019 7:31:59 PM   
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Sure glad we didn't get Whitehair and Michael Thomas; I'd hate to have passed on Treadwell and Alexander........

Bad part is I think we wanted Treadwell and Doctson before Thomas.

Funny thing is, I wanted Whitehair in a tradedown and Thomas/Sterling/Boyd. For some reason I can't recall, I became convinced we were taking a WR in the first and in that scenario I wanted Doctson over the other three (there may have been a fourth, but I don't recall).
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/13/2019 8:04:21 PM   
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I wanted Treadwell, so I feel like it's my fault somehow. I thought Thomas had a chance to be good, too, but I just felt it was too early to take him. It's kind of humbling. I'd like to think I know football, but right now I feel like I don't know squat. I mean, I thought our team was going to be good this year.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/14/2019 8:19:25 AM   
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Sure glad we didn't get Whitehair and Michael Thomas; I'd hate to have passed on Treadwell and Alexander........

Bad part is I think we wanted Treadwell and Doctson before Thomas.



Yeah unfortunately I was probably in the Doctson crowd as well. Yikes

I was not upset that we got Treadwell, even less upset when I found out how hard the kid worked.

In retrospect we got the Diggs pick right, and the Thielen signing right, would’ve just been good to know that before we drafted Treadless.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/14/2019 8:22:12 AM   
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I wanted Treadwell, so I feel like it's my fault somehow. I thought Thomas had a chance to be good, too, but I just felt it was too early to take him. It's kind of humbling. I'd like to think I know football, but right now I feel like I don't know squat. I mean, I thought our team was going to be good this year.



Don’t be too hard on yourself Bruce.

I have a couple periodical Street & Smith yearly previews that have the Vikes winning it all laying around here.

So did I.

My ONE CAVEAT was how our OLine came together, or didn’t come together... We all got our answer.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/14/2019 1:51:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I wanted Treadwell, so I feel like it's my fault somehow. I thought Thomas had a chance to be good, too, but I just felt it was too early to take him. It's kind of humbling. I'd like to think I know football, but right now I feel like I don't know squat. I mean, I thought our team was going to be good this year.



Don’t be too hard on yourself Bruce.

I have a couple periodical Street & Smith yearly previews that have the Vikes winning it all laying around here.

So did I.

My ONE CAVEAT was how our OLine came together, or didn’t come together... We all got our answer.


Michael Thomas had Brees throwing to him. Treadwell...

Thomas is way better, no doubt, but that had to factor into things. Treadwell's had a revolving door.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/14/2019 2:12:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I wanted Treadwell, so I feel like it's my fault somehow. I thought Thomas had a chance to be good, too, but I just felt it was too early to take him. It's kind of humbling. I'd like to think I know football, but right now I feel like I don't know squat. I mean, I thought our team was going to be good this year.



Don’t be too hard on yourself Bruce.

I have a couple periodical Street & Smith yearly previews that have the Vikes winning it all laying around here.

So did I.

My ONE CAVEAT was how our OLine came together, or didn’t come together... We all got our answer.


Michael Thomas had Brees throwing to him. Treadwell...

Thomas is way better, no doubt, but that had to factor into things. Treadwell's had a revolving door.


Treadwell's hands were a revolving door on some very catchable balls this year.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/14/2019 2:18:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I wanted Treadwell, so I feel like it's my fault somehow. I thought Thomas had a chance to be good, too, but I just felt it was too early to take him. It's kind of humbling. I'd like to think I know football, but right now I feel like I don't know squat. I mean, I thought our team was going to be good this year.



Don’t be too hard on yourself Bruce.

I have a couple periodical Street & Smith yearly previews that have the Vikes winning it all laying around here.

So did I.

My ONE CAVEAT was how our OLine came together, or didn’t come together... We all got our answer.


Michael Thomas had Brees throwing to him. Treadwell...

Thomas is way better, no doubt, but that had to factor into things. Treadwell's had a revolving door.


Treadwell's hands were a revolving door on some very catchable balls this year.


No doubt Be clear, I'm done with Treadwell and I hope the Vikings are too.

time to move on.

Thomas is clearly way better.

Every team passed on Thomas at least once.

At this point it is spilled milk. they clearly got that one wrong. Let's learn from it and get it right now.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/14/2019 2:46:10 PM   
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Risner and Ford are group-think names in the 18-25 range. Later there is the BC guy, Lindstrom.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/14/2019 6:31:37 PM   
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Are the tight ends at the top better players over all say vs a G when we pick and if so would we want that if we could have it?

A quick read seemed to suggest a couple of them were what some here have been asking for for years.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/14/2019 6:46:55 PM   
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Are the tight ends at the top better players over all say vs a G when we pick and if so would we want that if we could have it?

A quick read seemed to suggest a couple of them were what some here have been asking for for years.


TE?

OL or GTFO.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/14/2019 6:53:28 PM   
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People softened me talking about locking 2 spots up before the draft.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/14/2019 8:56:59 PM   
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People softened me talking about locking 2 spots up before the draft.



Good response

Did those people provide any specific players?

I would love for that to happen before the draft.

I'm not holding my breath.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/15/2019 7:07:31 PM   
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People softened me talking about locking 2 spots up before the draft.



Good response

Did those people provide any specific players?

I would love for that to happen before the draft.

I'm not holding my breath.



Heard its a bunch of Denver OL players from, you know, their crap OL. Unless the OL coach sucks. The Paradis guy is maybe the best of the bunch.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/16/2019 12:32:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Todd M

People softened me talking about locking 2 spots up before the draft.



Good response

Did those people provide any specific players?

I would love for that to happen before the draft.

I'm not holding my breath.



Heard its a bunch of Denver OL players from, you know, their crap OL. Unless the OL coach sucks. The Paradis guy is maybe the best of the bunch.


Paradis would be a really good signing.
Him or Saffold might be the only ones I could get excited about.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/16/2019 4:46:02 PM   
bohumm

 

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

People softened me talking about locking 2 spots up before the draft.



Good response

Did those people provide any specific players?

I would love for that to happen before the draft.

I'm not holding my breath.



Heard its a bunch of Denver OL players from, you know, their crap OL. Unless the OL coach sucks. The Paradis guy is maybe the best of the bunch.


Paradis would be a really good signing.
Him or Saffold might be the only ones I could get excited about.

Agree. I sort of hope that the Kubiak hire is really a way to get Paradis; it would be a baller move by Spielman.
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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/18/2019 8:38:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

People softened me talking about locking 2 spots up before the draft.



Good response

Did those people provide any specific players?

I would love for that to happen before the draft.

I'm not holding my breath.



Heard its a bunch of Denver OL players from, you know, their crap OL. Unless the OL coach sucks. The Paradis guy is maybe the best of the bunch.


Paradis would be a really good signing.
Him or Saffold might be the only ones I could get excited about.


Sign them both! Let's get the line fixed once and for all.

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RE: 2018 NFL Draft - 1/18/2019 8:51:30 AM   
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One of my favorite Rick Spielman offensive line insights from two years ago:

'Spielman looked at the correlation between draft placement and NFL success — and surprisingly found that guys drafted higher were usually better. He admitted that a “much lower percentage” of linemen taken after the third round were productive blockers.'

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/24/vikings-g-m-has-taken-a-long-look-at-how-hes-acquired-linemen/
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