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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 3:24:26 PM   
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Sounds like Kyri doesn't want to be a Wolf...

Khyri Thomas, G, Creighton: In some ways, Thomas would appear to be an ideal fit for the Wolves. He was the two-time conference defensive player of the year, has a 6-10 wingspan to help offset his 6-3 height and shot 41 percent from three-point range. But Thomas did not work out for the Wolves in the pre-draft process and his agency, Excel Sports, denied the team access to his medical information, league sources said. The Wolves could theoretically still take him if they wanted to, but it appears the message is being sent to consider other prospects.


Normally I don't put too much stock into reports like this, but I wonder if Patton got in his ear about the organization?

They did spend 2 years together at Creighton...

I'm inferring from your post that Patton is disgruntled?


Its just a guess.

Never got a chance to play, and had to see how toxic the organization is. A clearly split locker room and an owner that dislikes his POBO/HC.
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:00:48 PM   
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Shams Charania✔@ShamsCharania
Sources: Phoenix (Arizona’s DeAndre Ayton) and Sacramento (Duke’s Marvin Bagley III) have locked in on the NBA Draft’s Nos. 1 and 2 picks.
1:28 PM - Jun 21, 2018

They're a reason bad teams stay bad...(and we should know)...
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:02:07 PM   
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Shams Charania✔@ShamsCharania
Sources: Phoenix (Arizona’s DeAndre Ayton) and Sacramento (Duke’s Marvin Bagley III) have locked in on the NBA Draft’s Nos. 1 and 2 picks.
1:28 PM - Jun 21, 2018

They're a reason bad teams stay bad...(and we should know)...

I don't like Bagley at all and I think Ayton is a project who's about half as good as he thinks he is.

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:04:15 PM   
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Shams Charania✔@ShamsCharania
Sources: Phoenix (Arizona’s DeAndre Ayton) and Sacramento (Duke’s Marvin Bagley III) have locked in on the NBA Draft’s Nos. 1 and 2 picks.
1:28 PM - Jun 21, 2018

They're a reason bad teams stay bad...(and we should know)...

I don't like Bagley at all and I think Ayton is a project who's about half as good as he thinks he is.


And unfortunately that half is all on the offensive end.

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Here's how the Top 6 of tonight's NBA Draft is taking shape: 1. Suns: Deandre Ayton. 2. Kings: Marvin Bagley Jr.; 3. Hawks: Luka Doncic; 4. Jaren Jackson, Jr.; 5. Mavericks: Mo Bamba; 6. Magic: Trae Young.

If the draft falls that way, I'll be stunned if the 3rd and 4th picks aren't MUCH better Pros than the top 2.
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:04:56 PM   
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Shams Charania✔@ShamsCharania
Sources: Phoenix (Arizona’s DeAndre Ayton) and Sacramento (Duke’s Marvin Bagley III) have locked in on the NBA Draft’s Nos. 1 and 2 picks.
1:28 PM - Jun 21, 2018

They're a reason bad teams stay bad...(and we should know)...



Saw the SI.com story on if there is a real need to draft bigs in today's NBA?

Granted not everyone has a 6/11 Durant or all those athletic guys. What do you guys thing?

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:06:49 PM   
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Shams Charania✔@ShamsCharania
Sources: Phoenix (Arizona’s DeAndre Ayton) and Sacramento (Duke’s Marvin Bagley III) have locked in on the NBA Draft’s Nos. 1 and 2 picks.
1:28 PM - Jun 21, 2018

They're a reason bad teams stay bad...(and we should know)...



Saw the SI.com story on if there is a real need to draft bigs in today's NBA?

Granted not everyone has a 6/11 Durant or all those athletic guys. What do you guys thing?

Bigs that can defend the rim and shoot the 3, sure.

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:08:11 PM   
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Shams Charania✔@ShamsCharania
Sources: Phoenix (Arizona’s DeAndre Ayton) and Sacramento (Duke’s Marvin Bagley III) have locked in on the NBA Draft’s Nos. 1 and 2 picks.
1:28 PM - Jun 21, 2018

They're a reason bad teams stay bad...(and we should know)...



Saw the SI.com story on if there is a real need to draft bigs in today's NBA?

Granted not everyone has a 6/11 Durant or all those athletic guys. What do you guys thing?

Bigs that can defend the rim and shoot the 3, sure.



Right, but what about the guys who can't shoot past 15'

They'd better be really good on defense.

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:10:16 PM   
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Shams Charania✔@ShamsCharania
Sources: Phoenix (Arizona’s DeAndre Ayton) and Sacramento (Duke’s Marvin Bagley III) have locked in on the NBA Draft’s Nos. 1 and 2 picks.
1:28 PM - Jun 21, 2018

They're a reason bad teams stay bad...(and we should know)...



Saw the SI.com story on if there is a real need to draft bigs in today's NBA?

Granted not everyone has a 6/11 Durant or all those athletic guys. What do you guys thing?

Bigs that can defend the rim and shoot the 3, sure.



Right, but what about the guys who can't shoot past 15'

They'd better be really good on defense.

Better be ridiculously efficient (good free throw shooter - which is almost never the case if they have no range) and they better have quick feet and lateral movement so they can switch on pick n' roll. Hard to come by nowadays.

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:16:09 PM   
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Shams Charania✔@ShamsCharania
Sources: Phoenix (Arizona’s DeAndre Ayton) and Sacramento (Duke’s Marvin Bagley III) have locked in on the NBA Draft’s Nos. 1 and 2 picks.
1:28 PM - Jun 21, 2018

They're a reason bad teams stay bad...(and we should know)...



Saw the SI.com story on if there is a real need to draft bigs in today's NBA?

Granted not everyone has a 6/11 Durant or all those athletic guys. What do you guys thing?


That's why JJJ is probably the best prospect since Anthony Davis.

6'11 teenager with a 7'5 wingspan that is, by far, the best shotblocker in college, hit 40% of his 3s, 80% of his FTs and may be able to guard every position on the floor in a couple years.

But classic centers? They all got run off the floor in the playoffs.
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:18:07 PM   
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I think we're going to see a lot more 6'9 rangy guys that can rim-run and switch onto the perimeter playing center over the next few years. And the Andre Drummonds of the world are going to get squeezed out.
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:21:52 PM   
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I think we're going to see a lot more 6'9 rangy guys that can rim-run and switch onto the perimeter playing center over the next few years. And the Andre Drummonds of the world are going to get squeezed out.

Yep. Greg Monroe and Al Jefferson are another couple of guys where their game just doesn't translate anymore.

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:22:39 PM   
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I think we're going to see a lot more 6'9 rangy guys that can rim-run and switch onto the perimeter playing center over the next few years. And the Andre Drummonds of the world are going to get squeezed out.



Which is probably why I see comments that Dieng doesn't have much of a market.
Any guesses on what those types will be doing, besides sitting on the bench?

The college game is going to continue to chase the big post.

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:24:52 PM   
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I think we're going to see a lot more 6'9 rangy guys that can rim-run and switch onto the perimeter playing center over the next few years. And the Andre Drummonds of the world are going to get squeezed out.



Which is probably why I see comments that Dieng doesn't have much of a market.
Any guesses on what those types will be doing, besides sitting on the bench?

The college game is going to continue to chase the big post.


I think tall kids are going to be encouraged to work on their shot and their feet more than traditional post skills.
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:28:09 PM   
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I think we're going to see a lot more 6'9 rangy guys that can rim-run and switch onto the perimeter playing center over the next few years. And the Andre Drummonds of the world are going to get squeezed out.



Which is probably why I see comments that Dieng doesn't have much of a market.
Any guesses on what those types will be doing, besides sitting on the bench?

The college game is going to continue to chase the big post.


I think tall kids are going to be encouraged to work on their shot and their feet more than traditional post skills.


Spread the floor some more, expand the 3Pt line and widen the lane. College too

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 4:31:30 PM   
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Most NBA execs assume Philly will take Mikal Bridges at 10. He fits a position of need, complements Embiid and Simmons, and is ready to produce right away. The fact that he played in their building (and his mom works in their HR department) doesn't hurt.

Mikal would be an amazing pick for Philly.

Saw a projection picking Knox at that slot but Bridges makes a lot more sense for them.


I have no idea why Knox has been getting so much love lately. Maybe GMs are thinking ALL Kentucky players games are suppressed in college.

Not a great athlete, not a great shooter, passer or defender. Steal and block numbers are a big red flag.

His absolute ceiling might be Tobias Harris.

If I knew I could get a Tobias Harris equivalent for the #9 pick in the draft I have the Flash run it to the podium.

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 5:24:42 PM   
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I correctly picked the Wolves last 2 draft choices. This year I haven't had enough time to stay on top of it.
Thomas was always my hope as I've watched him in person many times the last couple years. Top line defense and effort 100% of the time. He can shoot the three, but IMO needs to work on his one on one offensive skills.
I really believe the Wolves are going to trade down again.

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 6:50:27 PM   
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Looks like the Top 4 picks are all going to Western Conference teams...

Marc Stein✔@TheSteinLine
The Hawks are going to be drafting for Dallas at No. 3, league sources say

Marc Stein✔@TheSteinLine
Dallas will send a future first-round pick with various protections over the next five seasons to Atlanta along with No. 5 to acquire the third overall pick from Atlanta, league sources say

4:46 PM - Jun 21, 2018
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 6:54:20 PM   
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Doncic for Young and a future pick feels like something Atlanta is going to regret for a very, very long time.
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 7:00:37 PM   
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Doncic for Young and a future pick feels like something Atlanta is going to regret for a very, very long time.


With ridiculous protection on the future pick, I tend to agree.

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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 7:07:22 PM   
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Doncic for Young and a future pick feels like something Atlanta is going to regret for a very, very long time.


Your favorite site, NBADraft.net, says Young is like Steph Curry and Doncic is Toni Kukoc
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 7:11:35 PM   
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Doncic for Young and a future pick feels like something Atlanta is going to regret for a very, very long time.


Your favorite site, NBADraft.net, says Young is like Steph Curry and Doncic is Toni Kukoc


Young's shooting as the season went on and the competition got tougher:

Nov: 49/42
Dec: 46/41
Jan: 43/40
Feb: 36/25
Mar: 36/29
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 7:12:28 PM   
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He's Steph-lite!
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 7:13:26 PM   
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He's Steph-lite!


Great. So he's Seth Curry.

That's worth trading Doncic for....
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 7:20:19 PM   
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Even Seth for Kukoc wouldn't be a good deal, much less for Doncic
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RE: 2018 NBA Draft - 6/21/2018 7:23:43 PM   
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Sexton feels like a panic move by Cleveland when they couldn't get Young.

Not a fan of Knox at 9 either.
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